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On March 03 2013 02:07 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 01:59 TestSubject893 wrote:On March 03 2013 01:46 MilkSuckler wrote:No bites? Lets try again On March 03 2013 00:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
lol it's just so different i mean i'd really rather lynch geript
I am happy to lynch Chezinu/Geript over consecutive cycles, as the cases are not associations. The reason I would lynch Geript > Chezinu, is because: Chezinu already used his day-vig shot. Geript, no idea what role he possesses.@ALLThoughts? - Vote exodus to Geript? I could get on board with that. I guess the questions are 'are Chez and Geript both so scummy that at this point there is no way either avoids being lynched?', and 'can we assure enough votes get to geript that we don't accidentally no-lynch from neither having 11?'. I'd answer the former with yes, and the latter with I don't know.
On March 02 2013 15:54 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 02 2013 15:46 geript wrote:
If this were a ragequit, then I'd stop reading the thread. The only way I see that I can push my reads at this point is to get lynched. The only time it's useful to the town, in my view, is if I get lynched today. I'm concerned that the vig won't consider attacking me at night for fear that I'm the armorer or whatever. You're not even going to attempt to defend your shit logic? What exactly would a flip on you prove? We've already had flips on people you've been fingering all game and boy oh BOY have THEY been telling. I'm honestly just wondering how you're going to justify all of your tells throughout the game to yourself in the postgame. I'm really looking forward to it. Especially if your lynch in some who-the-fuck-knows-how way gets me killed. I'm reading this as if WoS knows for sure that geript's alignment is town. Am I misreading it? WoS doesn't seem scummy to me, but this looks like a scumslip. Hmmm That does look like a complete slip. Only people who have to defend their reads are town. I'm fingering 2 people WoS and Dr. Hmmmmmmm.
LOL.. i didnt treat it as a scum slip.. perhaps I am unique
Nice DE-LURK
i treated it as in.. your pushing WoS hard. and he was basically saying.. im town, your gonna look like an idiot post-game
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On March 03 2013 02:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
so jj being scum depends on vivax lying about the roleblock
if jj is scum roleblocker who rb'd toades then the town rb who jailed vivax would still counterclaim so i dont think jj is lying
Yeah but using that logic, town day-vig woulda come out
I find it odd though that scum vig & scum day-vig would choose to expose themselves.
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On March 03 2013 02:12 TestSubject893 wrote:
and its been made clear that when my input isn't helpful, its in the town's best interest for me to keep my mouth shut.
Sorry if I made you feel this way.. its just.. theres a difference between saying
"hey guys, what do you think of these points"
&
"hey.. i filter dived.. made a case and came up with no conclusion"
what I am trying to say is.. if you filter dived, and ended up null... surely there must be some sort of question you can ask that will make you swing red or green.. ask it.. that is a useful contribution (in my opinion)
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On March 03 2013 02:15 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I'm still vehemently against a Chez lynch. I'm the only one who has defended against it, and I'm sticking to my guns. I don't think he will flip red.
Lets chat about this a bit more Jcarl.
I noticed in your filter the prime reason for defending Chez, is you can't see reason for him to have fired (primarily because you dont think he would have been scared of Wade Fells case/push to rush the shot)
This is all WIFOM though? And in my opinion the (valid) case on Chez was before the shot was fired anyways, the case is built on meta, and activity in game.
You seem to agree:
On March 01 2013 11:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:
@Wade Fell: Your case is reasonable. However, it is still early in the day, and I want to hear from JJ.
Do you believe the day-vig shot WIFOM is strong enough to throw the original meta case/argument out the window?
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On March 03 2013 02:33 geript wrote:
Who hasn't he had pegged as scummy at one point or another.
LOl
Nice De-lurk #2.. ties in with
On March 03 2013 00:14 MilkSuckler wrote:
[Geript] he just has this habit of releasing emotionally charged grenades at his "scum targets".
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On March 03 2013 02:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 02:32 TestSubject893 wrote:On March 03 2013 02:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
and @TestSubject, go read Ver's guide, go look at some good townplay in other threads, there's always aggression. I've relentlessly attacked people I didn't have strong reads are because it forces me to come to a conclusion based on their responses. Look how hard I grilled WoS early in this game on more or less one/two sentences. He responded well and that null/unsure read got pushed into a town read. You have to push your null reads so they swing one way or the other, if you just sit on a null read then you're not ever going to have an opinion. Ok, I'll read the guide. The fear I have with pushing null reads is that if they turn out to be town it makes me look scummy, and wastes the town's time by making them go after me next. For example, early in this game, when my read on you was null and I pointed that out. You've had me pegged as scummy ever since. Being wrong isn't scummy, pressuring someone you later decide is town isn't scummy it's all about how you do it and what your intentions are if you pressured someone, they explained themselves well and knocked down your points against them and you still kept calling them scum, that would be scummy. it's ok to change your mind.
Yeppo +1
I had a massive town read on Dr.H all game.. but when he does stuff I dont like, I still ask him for reasoning behind those actions.
Anyways, night guys, 6HRS to deadline..
VOTE GERIPT
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He's saying jcarl is the mason...wtf lol
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Yes well done guys...it wasn't geript but at least we got some smoky red and I believe kp is now 1
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On March 03 2013 09:08 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 09:02 MilkSuckler wrote:
He's saying jcarl is the mason...wtf lol ? How do you get that?
He used a specific phrase from your filter iirc
Prob did it co u was the only one defending him, mason could have made sense
Either way.. Me off for the next 8hrs
WoS I will answer your question in more detail when I get back. If u need it. Let me know.
In short my meta isn't similar at all.
Notice as scum I wait for people to fuck up and then pounce over them
This game I am actively trying to converse with others to figure them out, and then pounce if I don't like what I see.
E.g. me and aqua night 1
Also, I been pressuring geript since day 1..he is now a good scum read of urs...why would I be bussing him so early if I was scum.
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@Geript
On March 03 2013 09:07 geript wrote:
Well I think that I don't need to check this thread anymore. On March 03 2013 03:50 geript wrote:
Because some people are more focused on jerking each other off and picking on newbies than anything else. I can't wait until I get to be a vig, I'm only going to shoot out of spite. It is safe to assume, you are referencing yourself here.
NMM37:
On February 12 2013 07:12 geript wrote:
I think your assumptions are bad Cora. The assumptions I'm seeing in your post are:
1. Geript is familiar with TLmafia board play
2. Geript is familiar with TLmafia newbie players
3. Geript follows usual TLmafia board play
While I have read a few games here and skimmed others, where I am used to playing openings are different and people are more liberal with their use of votes (in general) but especially so in early game
Here you demonstrate whilst your play may not be A-Grade.. you are far from a virgin-eyed newbie.
Quit with the self-deprecating bullshit.
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On March 03 2013 09:46 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 09:41 Vivax wrote:On March 03 2013 09:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Geript and jcarls need to get whacked tonight I'll think about it maybe I don't know. Ur basically guaranteed hit or rbd though  Hatter just throw bombs down and lets lynch him tomorrow
well we know a vig is in the game (vivax)
dunno why u so sure a hatter is in?
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On March 03 2013 09:52 geript wrote:
A few points before I intentionally go quiet until whenever it is I end up dead. I'm going to recommend not killing me, it's a waste of town KP; and scum may intentionally heal me to counteract it. You can roleblock me if you want, but I'd rather you protect someone else.
If I find anything productive to say then I'll post it then. Odds are though that I'm just going to stay out of discussion entirely as I think that's likely the most productive thing I can do at this point.
Explain to me how mafia would heal you?
Yeah keep flying under that radar baby... (like chezinu and prome did once outed)
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On March 03 2013 10:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh sorry to ignore your post Mocsta.
I've been meaning to get to you since yesterday but your filter is always so goddamn wtfhuge.
Let's see how tonight goes down first, and if it so happens we're short on scum targets tomorrow it may be worth giving it a go. (This doesn't mean I think you're scum specifically, it just means I have to give your filter a dive 'cause I see a pattern. You're null for me right now.)
If your null on me whatevz, but can you at least do the courtesy and tell me what you dont like in my play.
All game, you have tried to sow doubt on me, by asking the opinion of others.. Theres a reason no-one has obliged.
If its purely, you think I am playing a similar game as scum; fine, that is your choice. But you have shown no mentality that is common between the games other than statement of opinion.
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On March 03 2013 10:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 09:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Geript and jcarls need to get whacked tonight I strongly urge you to reconsider sending your little minions after me. Me dying would be a poor fate indeed.
Well, how do you think you are perceived.. now that your best bud Chez was split red?
(this is written antagonistically intentionally)
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On March 03 2013 10:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Chaos Bear, the Settler, has been modkilled for not posting since the start of the game.
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On March 03 2013 10:32 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 10:19 MilkSuckler wrote:On March 03 2013 10:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh sorry to ignore your post Mocsta.
I've been meaning to get to you since yesterday but your filter is always so goddamn wtfhuge.
Let's see how tonight goes down first, and if it so happens we're short on scum targets tomorrow it may be worth giving it a go. (This doesn't mean I think you're scum specifically, it just means I have to give your filter a dive 'cause I see a pattern. You're null for me right now.) If your null on me whatevz, but can you at least do the courtesy and tell me what you dont like in my play. All game, you have tried to sow doubt on me, by asking the opinion of others.. Theres a reason no-one has obliged. If its purely, you think I am playing a similar game as scum; fine, that is your choice. But you have shown no mentality that is common between the games other than statement of opinion. You're right, which is why I suggest dropping it for now. You're on my radar after the rest of this shit goes down, that's all. (Another major reason why I don't want to go through the gargantuan effort of sifting through your filter is because chances are my case will go ignored anyway. I'm not sure if it's Geript's 'newbie factor' or if people think what I post is genuinely not worth addressing or what.)
I read what you write.. I choose not to reply because:
(1) A lot of the time, your comments are directed clearly to one person
(2) A lot of the time, your comments are verbose +1's
(3) A lot of the time, when you doing original content, I don't agree with it (e.g. me = scum)
Now.. in regards to (3).. you have to ask yourself
(a) Am I just on the wrong track and being stupid
OR
(b) Are they misunderstanding my case, because I am not communicating effectively
Thats my 2c, but from what I have read from vet-to-vet convo.. most ignore posts from people they think are stupid; or not discussing their prime scum candidates. (i.e. they have more tunneled focus)
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Do I presume the red text indicates u think jcarl is scum?
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On March 03 2013 13:58 grush57 wrote:
Surely atleast some scum tried to switch to Geript. I doubt scum would get in the position for both candidates to be scum.
Agreed (somewhat)
geript (6): DoctorHelvetica, geript, Chezinu, jcarlsoniv, MilkSuckler, glurio,
What do you think about JCarlsoniv grush57?
On March 03 2013 13:58 grush57 wrote:
Tho if geript is scum then we got this in the bag.
y?
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On March 03 2013 14:21 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 13:58 grush57 wrote:
Surely atleast some scum tried to switch to Geript. I doubt scum would get in the position for both candidates to be scum. Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 14:10 MilkSuckler wrote:On March 03 2013 13:58 grush57 wrote:
Surely atleast some scum tried to switch to Geript. I doubt scum would get in the position for both candidates to be scum. Agreed (somewhat) geript (6): DoctorHelvetica, geript, Chezinu, jcarlsoniv, MilkSuckler, glurio, What do you think about JCarlsoniv grush57? On March 03 2013 13:58 grush57 wrote:
Tho if geript is scum then we got this in the bag. y? You agree that the candidates are probably not both scum but you think Geript is scum? What gives?
I asid, agreed (somehwat).. + I misread what he said, i thought he meant some candidates on GERIPT are scum (not that Geript and chezinu) are scum.
So whats your latest, I haven't heard from you in a long time.
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