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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 09 2013 00:38 GMT
#4110
Hosts will definitely hang around the scum qt, it's too much to individually PM every blue role but ive never played a game as a host or a scum where the host didn't actively seek out mafia actions
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 09 2013 00:52 GMT
#4113
If you're town it's never an impossible argument, just an excuse to waste a day of talking

keep pushing jcarl then
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 09 2013 00:58 GMT
#4114
the one thing making me doubt is a scum gambit to fakeclaim vig it doesnt make sense to fake the roleblock on night 1 unless you wanted to wait until it was the right time to bus with the shot

oh well thats a WIFOM argument I guess, but this is how I think
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 09 2013 01:56 GMT
#4121
That town KP question can't be ignored either.

My only guess would be town has a mad hatter or several armorers.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 09 2013 02:07 GMT
#4124
I have never known a host to make every member of the mafia send in actions differently

it usually goes in a pm as one list like "ok tonight we're hitting w x , roleblocking y and framing z"

no way oats didnt give them a heads up in the scum qt and no way did every single member of scum miss that bolded post. i dont believe that.

If there is another vigilante or armorers now is the time to claim. if we have 1 mad hatter and 1 or 2 armorers, thats plenty of potential town KP from a balance setup, considering scum max out at only 2 KP that makes sense to me
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 09 2013 19:04 GMT
#4146
Are there armorers in this game? You should claim. Scum with a dayvig and just having a mad hatter seems crazy to me. I'm looking at people like TS who are jumping on the Vivax bandwagon without really seeming that sure. TestSubject even wrote up a post explaining what he felt unsure about and I don't see the point in doing that unless you're actually worried about people suspecting you for voting someone we all seem to agree to vote for, I don't get it.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 09 2013 19:05 GMT
#4147
I won't waver from my policy of lynch martyrs though. Townies need to fight their own lynches. If you flip town like Geript or Toadesstern did, that's your fault and if we allow that kind of play to go unchecked in mafia games the results are cancerous to TL Towns.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 09 2013 19:11 GMT
#4149
I can't shake the feeling that you're playing so much under the direction of how you think people want you to play and not what you actually think is the right direction based on your own independent analysis
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 10 2013 01:11 GMT
#4166
Wtf how are my day 1 reads always so gosu and then past day 2 I suck
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 10 2013 01:21 GMT
#4167
Carls is bartender imo

And wos scum
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 10 2013 01:27 GMT
#4169
I agree.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 10 2013 20:51 GMT
#4187
In case I die tonight keep in my mind my other top suspect for bartender is Layabout. He seems to be putting forth a genuine effort to scumhunt but there's something lacking there that tells me he lacks a real interest in town winning which fits third party play perfectly.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 11 2013 00:18 GMT
#4202
##Vote: WaveofShadow

On February 26 2013 12:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
WoS has done nothing to indicate to me that he is definitely town, in fact I find his most recent posts sort of worrisome. Scumhunting is bandwagoning. If no one applies pressure after a case, if no one puts the heat on then what is the point? I made a long post about Promethelax and so far no one has anything to talk about except some stupid shit about pardoner? We've had a million games with a pardoner. It's a bad role. Anti-town by nature. There is no way for us to know who is going to get it and it's not worth worrying about as much as it's worth worrying about lynching scum (especially interesting considering Day 1 is the only lynch that can not be interfered with by the pardoner)

Remember the example of the scummiest post ever from Ver's Guide where tree.hugger said (paraphrase) "Yeah, I think youngminii has really great cases against him. Good scum read. Don't think I'm gonna vote for him though." (They were scum teammates in the end, and even if YM wasn't scum that is a damn scummy thing to say) That's exactly the kind of hesitation that's incredibly suspicious and it isn't too far away from what WoS is saying. He's not willing to call Prom scum despite praising my accusation, so what the hell?



Not interested in his ramblings about the pardoner either. Why wouldn't scum, trying to get pardoner, try to do so in the most townlike way possible? Why wouldn't scum use the platform of pardoner/mayor as a method to try to buy credibility with town despite the role not being all that useful? Why should I trust someone who spent more effort explaining why he should be pardoner than trying to ensure we lynch the right way today? Why should I take "scumhunting good, bandwagon (pressure is what this really means) bad" as a pro-town sentiment?


WoS has been all over the place with his voting and never really seemed to me to apply real pressure unlike actual confused townies. Only now is he coming out with "lynch the vet" when my survival was highly suspect already by Day 3-4 (not so suspect when you consider how bad my reads have been past Day 1).
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 11 2013 00:19 GMT
#4203
Sounds good to me I guess. A Vivax flip as town will prove your associations are shit, and are likely scum, while a scum flip pretty much confirms you for town, in which case we've basically won anyway once Soniv goes down.
It's a win-win baby.


Oops look who tried to deflect the nail-in-the-coffin bandwagon yesterday
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 11 2013 00:28 GMT
#4205
But the Vivax case was not and that's ultimately all that mattered isn't it
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 11 2013 00:28 GMT
#4206
He claimed Engineer to prove town still had KP so that the Vivax lynch wouldn't be derailed
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 11 2013 00:56 GMT
#4208
I'm gonna comb your filter later believe me but I really don't give a shit about Milk's association reads and I never did and never claimed to. I don't see why you're trying extra hard to discredit him. My point is that you were trying to deflect Viv's lynch yesterday.

ALSO - If you want to fight a lynch against me, try having a better argument then "you're alive therefore scum" and come up with some real reasons.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 11 2013 00:58 GMT
#4209
you've literally never accused me before and this seems like desperation

why didn't me being alive yesterday set you off or shit even the day before that? all of a sudden you're sure i'm scum now? you're doing this instead of analysis on randombum/grush/testsubject all of whom have come under heavy suspicion at some point or another in this game?
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 11 2013 01:08 GMT
#4213
On March 11 2013 10:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why do YOU care so much to actually pressure me all of a sudden after doing nothing for the past 3 days?
Same reason I'll bet.

Because we're inching closer to LYLO and I haven't done nothing for the past 3 days, I filled out a case on Vivax who flipped scum. I was nominally involved in the glurio lynch but more than other lurkers like Randombum and Grush, what about them?
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 11 2013 01:09 GMT
#4214
On March 11 2013 10:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
Challenge accepted.
Honestly I was thinking of just laying down and dying like Geript, but now it's actually on me to find some fucking scum or we lose. It's David against Dr. Goliath; I'm going to earn my right to play in your upcoming game.

Also hold on a sec, how in the fuck did I deflect the Vivax case exactly? I meant exactly what I said there, but was wrong about Soniv.


Soniv was town and I suspected he was either town or 3rd party. His logic was good and he put forth an honest effort to scumhunt but something felt off to me and it's clear now that what was missing was just how much he cared about the game like most people after RO died.
RIP Aaliyah
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