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On March 05 2013 13:03 geript wrote:
Either way, moving forward I prefer lynches on WoS, TMM, Vivax in that order.
you know why your mafia? becasue you refuse to have any discourse with town what so ever in your reads. If your town you should be trying to convince me why those players are mafia.
as for me you could ask me questions or try to explain why im mafia so i have something to respond to but no you just want to show your position you have no real intention in hunting scum. This is why i tihnk your mafia because you seem to hae no interest in actually figuring out alignments nor wish to push those reads in order to lynch scum. You just say these are scum and then just spam nonsense for no reason.
like it would be so easy to make a case against me if you wanted to you could just say something simple like iamp usally gives a shit about town it doesn't look like he cares that much or something along those lines. Instead you say these guys are mafia and fuck you town you intend to have no discourse what so ever with the town.
if you are town why not just talk it out?
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Hi TMM.
Congratulations on what I assume is to be your first post this game exceeding more than 2 lines 
Well done.
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On another note.
I really like the emoticon.
Maybe I should retire Mocsta, and stick with this I.D.?
Every time I roll town, I can copy Grush starsenses and go
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On March 05 2013 13:50 MilkSuckler wrote:Hi TMM. Congratulations on what I assume is to be your first post this game exceeding more than 2 lines Well done.
implying more than one or two lines is necessary.
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On March 05 2013 13:25 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 13:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Sorry if you're going to hate me forever for getting you lynched. I don't look down on you at all and I'd hope you can just keep on playing and improving. I'm actually quite sure it has nothing to do with getting me lynched. If that we're the case then if dislike VE and Vayesh as I was on their lists.
Wait now I'm confused. Do you hate me too?
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On March 05 2013 13:58 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 13:25 geript wrote:On March 05 2013 13:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Sorry if you're going to hate me forever for getting you lynched. I don't look down on you at all and I'd hope you can just keep on playing and improving. I'm actually quite sure it has nothing to do with getting me lynched. If that we're the case then if dislike VE and Vayesh as I was on their lists. Wait now I'm confused. Do you hate me too?
No, cos you get ignored
Im SOSOSOSOSOSO bored
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On March 05 2013 13:54 The Macho Man wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 13:50 MilkSuckler wrote:Hi TMM. Congratulations on what I assume is to be your first post this game exceeding more than 2 lines Well done. implying more than one or two lines is necessary.
Coulda just said:
"UR SCUM COS YOU DIDNT MAKE A CASE ON ME AS LYNCHBAIT"
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No, implying that it's a super odd time for you to decide to get involved in discussion.
Besides, everything I've written at this point has been ripped to shreds in one way or another. The only thing which anyone even liked was the fourth point re: VE which Doc liked and then dropped once VE made a simple bland response. Doc has essentially made it clear nothing I post is worthwhile. BH says he'll go back and read my thoughts, but considering how my thought process in my experience is rather unique I don't think it would help him at all. Other than just the sheer time commitment it takes me to write up cases (due to the long editing and confirmation process), it's just not worth putting the effort in to just have it rejected. Not to mention the fact that I'd rather not have to revert back to the first or second stage again So eh.
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On March 05 2013 13:58 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 13:25 geript wrote:On March 05 2013 13:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Sorry if you're going to hate me forever for getting you lynched. I don't look down on you at all and I'd hope you can just keep on playing and improving. I'm actually quite sure it has nothing to do with getting me lynched. If that we're the case then if dislike VE and Vayesh as I was on their lists. Wait now I'm confused. Do you hate me too?
No, but I still think you're scum.
Also, fwiw if I had to wager my 5 internet points, then I'd put them on Hassy flipping 3rd party far before putting them on Hassy flipping scum.
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On March 05 2013 14:02 geript wrote:
No, implying that it's a super odd time for you to decide to get involved in discussion.
Besides, everything I've written at this point has been ripped to shreds in one way or another. The only thing which anyone even liked was the fourth point re: VE which Doc liked and then dropped once VE made a simple bland response. Doc has essentially made it clear nothing I post is worthwhile. BH says he'll go back and read my thoughts, but considering how my thought process in my experience is rather unique I don't think it would help him at all. Other than just the sheer time commitment it takes me to write up cases (due to the long editing and confirmation process), it's just not worth putting the effort in to just have it rejected. Not to mention the fact that I'd rather not have to revert back to the first or second stage again So eh.
That is your own introduced fallacy.
A case is not meant to convince your target THEY are scum.
A case is a campaign to get support to bandwagon.
If you are simply discussing scum reads: dot points are more than sufficient.
In fact, I am trying to move away from cases as much as I can these days. If you can convince ppl of from just from the dot points, then you are becoming a more effective communicator (in general)
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Anyways the thread is completely going OTT. feel like conceding?
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Even if I did, the game would still go on regardless. You guys still have 2 to find plus the possible 3rd party.
*buddying
*+1
*desire to not be looked at
*desire to appear engaged
*desire to be noticed without discussed
*never taking an actual hard stance
*making a case but not pushing it whatsoever
*displaced emotions
*natural defensiveness without showing same/similiar responses to previous pressure (NMM36)
There you go, enjoy. Now I concede and you still have 2 scum and a possible 3rd party to catch.
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Well on topic, does anyone actually want to discuss randombum?
On March 04 2013 17:58 Aquanim wrote:
Anyone here? I just read randombum's filter and it contains:
- his weird "elect scum for mayor" plan
- scumreads on OO and jcarlsoniv he never followed up
- late sheeps onto Prom and Chezinu wagons
- that's pretty much it
Does anyone have any reason to think this guy's town? because I can't find one
I haven't found anything hugely scum-indicative but he hasn't contributed much at all. I don't think he's followed up or committed to anything really, which is never a good sign. His meta as town in Themed and Parallel seems to me to be slightly more spontaneous than his play here - he interacts more with other players, and even though he died night one in Themed his filter is already nearly as long as in this game.
Focusing on the geript lynch isn't accomplishing anything at this point.
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I'm bringing this up despite the lack of a clear-cut case because a) I think the thread could do with something else to discuss and b) I'm not comfortable with the complete lack of scrutiny randombum's play has received so far.
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On March 05 2013 14:39 geript wrote:
Even if I did, the game would still go on regardless. You guys still have 2 to find plus the possible 3rd party.
*buddying
*+1
*desire to not be looked at
*desire to appear engaged
*desire to be noticed without discussed
*never taking an actual hard stance
*making a case but not pushing it whatsoever
*displaced emotions
*natural defensiveness without showing same/similiar responses to previous pressure (NMM36)
There you go, enjoy. Now I concede and you still have 2 scum and a possible 3rd party to catch.
Yes, I can agree with much of that.
Its funny this whole VE/WoS/Geript menage trois.
Apparently VE was speaking about you feeling scripted... but.. for me.. its WoS who was scripted.
Specifically here:
+ Show Spoiler [WoS scripted] +On February 26 2013 10:41 WaveofShadow wrote:Ok I'm back. Just kidding about lurking, y'all! Appreciate your efforts to stimulate discussion, Aquanim. Let's see what my extremely extensive D1 filter has reeled in. Oh look, a wild Promethelax who drops a scumread on me along with this timeless wisdom: Show nested quote +I can't read him on meta because I haven't played with him. Which is why I read him on behaviour instead. You were a scum coach in his one townie game. Do you have any insight you wanna share? At which point VE can't even contribute because I apparently 'lurked hard' D1 in my NMM game (despite the fact that if he even took 5 seconds to look at my filter from that game I was one of the highest post counts that day, well above the real lurkers in that game). Real strong cases to go on D1 guys, bravo. /golfclap In other news, there are 5 people who have yet to post and 5 possible scum. COINCIDENCE?
Your fate is sealed unfortunately, but I more than support WoS to be the next lynch.
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No, I feel like the one I brought up early on was far more scripted than that, but I can see it. Either way, if WoS is scum, then hit Vivax next. No way he wouldn't be scum then. Otherwise I'd skip towards TMM or Aqua.
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On March 05 2013 14:52 MilkSuckler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 14:39 geript wrote:
Even if I did, the game would still go on regardless. You guys still have 2 to find plus the possible 3rd party.
*buddying
*+1
*desire to not be looked at
*desire to appear engaged
*desire to be noticed without discussed
*never taking an actual hard stance
*making a case but not pushing it whatsoever
*displaced emotions
*natural defensiveness without showing same/similiar responses to previous pressure (NMM36)
There you go, enjoy. Now I concede and you still have 2 scum and a possible 3rd party to catch. Yes, I can agree with much of that. Its funny this whole VE/WoS/Geript menage trois. Apparently VE was speaking about you feeling scripted... but.. for me.. its WoS who was scripted. Specifically here: + Show Spoiler [WoS scripted] +On February 26 2013 10:41 WaveofShadow wrote:Ok I'm back. Just kidding about lurking, y'all! Appreciate your efforts to stimulate discussion, Aquanim. Let's see what my extremely extensive D1 filter has reeled in. Oh look, a wild Promethelax who drops a scumread on me along with this timeless wisdom: Show nested quote +I can't read him on meta because I haven't played with him. Which is why I read him on behaviour instead. You were a scum coach in his one townie game. Do you have any insight you wanna share? At which point VE can't even contribute because I apparently 'lurked hard' D1 in my NMM game (despite the fact that if he even took 5 seconds to look at my filter from that game I was one of the highest post counts that day, well above the real lurkers in that game). Real strong cases to go on D1 guys, bravo. /golfclap In other news, there are 5 people who have yet to post and 5 possible scum. COINCIDENCE? Your fate is sealed unfortunately, but I more than support WoS to be the next lynch.
Meh.
I have no desire to write up a long and complicated defense for it to be completely ineffective as to the outcome of the game. There are more important people who have contributed and done far less in this game, and arguably look 50x more scummy that that crap you dug up on me.
If at some point throughout any support is garnered towards my lynch then I'll put in the effort, but right now I see absolutely no reason. I am in no danger.
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On March 05 2013 15:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
I am in no danger.
You forgot to add (yet) at the end
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One last thing, BH if you're not halfwing, then I don't know you. But I'll be damned if you don't post almost exactly like him and you had 2 posts that were verbatim what he's said to me. So sorry for confusing you with him. I still won't like you though 
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On March 05 2013 15:20 MilkSuckler wrote:You forgot to add (yet) at the end
Well it won't be for a while in any case. I'm not sure exactly what kind of support a Geript-led campaign is going to pick up considering he's written himself off; knowing what I know I have no reason to trust his reads nor should anyone else and I have made cases explaining as such.
Hell I'm not even worried about NK possibility because not only am I not a high-priority target (since I'm not as useful as the vets have been) but thanks to yours and Geript's suspicion I bet scum will assume you guys'll lynch me at some point and leave my death up to town. If I DO die, it wouldn't matter either because the game right now is heavily in town's favour and it's gonna take a lot more than one mislynch to turn the tide.
Worst case scenario, you flip me D4 and Soniv gets implicated. Best case, I prove my innocence to the powers that be and Soniv (or Aquanim? Still want Soniv) dies. Win-win for me.
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