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Ugh I fail at quotes.
The above should be
On March 01 2013 06:05 geript wrote:
WoS. I've repeatedly taken the position that Pardoner is a far more Pro-Scum role and far better in Scum hands' than Mayor is. As I stated in my case, VE has made multiple announcements that he was interested in pardoner and specifically tried to get the Pardoner role over the Mayor role. Considering the pressure all game to destroy the role completely I doubt that entirely. As is the role is not going to be used; I trust DrH with that.
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On March 01 2013 06:14 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 06:10 Vivax wrote:
Hey VE I'm sorry to tell you, but some guy who worked in high risk psych for so long thinks there's something wrong with you.
I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit on this. This is blatantly false and reeks of just trying to stir the pot. Type A personality is just that; there's nothing right or wrong with it. While sociopaths tend to have type A personalities, there's been no direct links or clear causation (just correlation). Saying someone is Type A is no more a slam or saying that something's wrong with him than saying someone is meek and mild.
Don't worry about it dude your professional opinion means nothing to me - I'm a Type VE personality, and nothing anyone says is gonna change that.
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On March 01 2013 06:10 geript wrote:
Well then DrH, is it like him to play towards the group in allowing someone else to be elected because that what 'the town' wants?
It's like him to get really offended by criticism and throw everything he worked for out the window. I'm still unsure about his attitudes, why he would drop his convictions to support a lynch he wasn't 100% determined on, but VE approaches this game from a headspace I don't really understand. Right now, I'm more concerned about Toadesstern. I'm convinced that Promethelax was a bus that was planned much earlier than we might think and the fact that Toadesstern used that lynch to arrogantly pat himself on the back and yell about his town cred is very suspect to me.
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Oh god I'm going to break.
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On March 01 2013 06:14 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 06:10 Vivax wrote:
Hey VE I'm sorry to tell you, but some guy who worked in high risk psych for so long thinks there's something wrong with you.
I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit on this. This is blatantly false and reeks of just trying to stir the pot. Type A personality is just that; there's nothing right or wrong with it. While sociopaths tend to have type A personalities, there's been no direct links or clear causation (just correlation). Saying someone is Type A is no more a slam or saying that something's wrong with him than saying someone is meek and mild.
I'm not saying I agree with Vivax here (and kinf if a dick way of putting it, bad Vivax), but you still haven't addressed the fact that you pride yourself on these personality reads and your reads on me are wrong, and were wrong last game.
Where does that put your ability?
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On March 01 2013 06:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 06:10 geript wrote:
Well then DrH, is it like him to play towards the group in allowing someone else to be elected because that what 'the town' wants? It's like him to get really offended by criticism and throw everything he worked for out the window. I'm still unsure about his attitudes, why he would drop his convictions to support a lynch he wasn't 100% determined on, but VE approaches this game from a headspace I don't really understand. Right now, I'm more concerned about Toadesstern. I'm convinced that Promethelax was a bus that was planned much earlier than we might think and the fact that Toadesstern used that lynch to arrogantly pat himself on the back and yell about his town cred is very suspect to me.
I guess I have to ask why you never commented on this fact when I brought it up DAY ONE Doc. It was just as relevant then as it is now, considering how strong your opinion of "scumProm" was - his flip shouldn't have changed that much for you.
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On March 01 2013 06:18 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 06:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On March 01 2013 06:10 geript wrote:
Well then DrH, is it like him to play towards the group in allowing someone else to be elected because that what 'the town' wants? It's like him to get really offended by criticism and throw everything he worked for out the window. I'm still unsure about his attitudes, why he would drop his convictions to support a lynch he wasn't 100% determined on, but VE approaches this game from a headspace I don't really understand. Right now, I'm more concerned about Toadesstern. I'm convinced that Promethelax was a bus that was planned much earlier than we might think and the fact that Toadesstern used that lynch to arrogantly pat himself on the back and yell about his town cred is very suspect to me. I guess I have to ask why you never commented on this fact when I brought it up DAY ONE Doc. It was just as relevant then as it is now, considering how strong your opinion of "scumProm" was - his flip shouldn't have changed that much for you.
Because I have a very limited time reading this thread and I can't direct my attention everywhere at once. I've been trying to avoid thinking about Toadesstern for a long time because I have a hard time understanding his posts but I really can't do that at this point.
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On March 01 2013 06:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
If that's the extent of how far you think the bus goes that's not enough. I don't like that you're hiding reads directly about me as well
I'm pretty sure that I've been upfront about all of my reads on you. Am I revealing all of my Vivax/WoS association case that isn't much good without a flip? No, but that would be wasting everyone's time. You're still playing excited (in the biophysical/pscyholgical sense to make it clear). If anything, I think I'm going to revisit and update my case on you when I have the chance.
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On February 27 2013 15:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Re: Toad
I still don't like how he's all "WTF this Prom lynch is MINE everyone is sheeping ME". If Prom flips scum I'm going to be instantly more suspicious of Toad, not less, considering the fact that A) he's been actively trying to take credit for the Prom lynch and B) Prom clearly had something planned for this phase where he'd be AFK for a long period. "Yeah guys just bus me" is exactly the kind of thing that gets typed in QT's when that's the case.
He's done no scumhunting BESIDES his pressure of Prom at the beginning of the game - if he's so certain of Prom, why is he not in here actively trying to find Prom's team? Why is he doing nothing but ride this Prom lynch to its conclusion?
Ultimately I'm still leaning scum, but his suggestion at the beginning of the game wasn't a bad one if we can pull it off. I want to see more from him.
For posterity.
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I just hadn't paid attention to Toadesstern. I didn't even know he made a case on Promethelax to begin with until like a few hours before the flip happened.
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But we're talking about my posts Doc - it's not about reading Toad's posts or OO's or anyones...we're talking about "Direct Mayoral Opposition" posts.
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On March 01 2013 06:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Where does that put your ability?
Being wrong means I can be wrong. Is there a real point here?
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I should say again the majority of everything that happened the latter half of Day 1 escapes me because I only had 15 minutes at a time to read that thread and went to sleep very soon after I came home from work. I'll make a better effort from this point on to pay attention, I felt very comfortable at that point because I was sure about the Promethelax lynch.
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It's even consolidated and sucinct like you like - same with the OO case you "didn't have time to read".
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On March 01 2013 06:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
But we're talking about my posts Doc - it's not about reading Toad's posts or OO's or anyones...we're talking about "Direct Mayoral Opposition" posts.
Yeah, I remember you yelling about Toadesstern and thinking that I don't really have time to read into it. I can't just take your word on it because you said he was scum. I'm inclined to agree with you now, so what is the problem?
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Well now he's the leader of a scum wagon Doc. I wanted to lynch him yesterday and was called bad and stupid for it.
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On March 01 2013 06:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's even consolidated and sucinct like you like - same with the OO case you "didn't have time to read".
I admit my interest level in this thread hasn't been what it should be. I'll correct that, just relax.
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OH MY GOD ARE YOU SCUM DOC?!??!??!
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On March 01 2013 06:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well now he's the leader of a scum wagon Doc. I wanted to lynch him yesterday and was called bad and stupid for it.
I would have wanted to go forward with the Promethelax lynch anyway since the idea that Toades is bussing depends on knowing Prom's alignment, right? I was upset with you because you were spamming and having a poor attitude. I don't think you're stupid for suspecting Toades, I never did, I just wasn't willing at the time to do the work required to consider that case.
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I'm listening DrH. I know that VE's been pretty anti-toad, but I'd like to hear your specific take on it.
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