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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 16:20 GMT
#2620
On March 02 2013 01:16 Vivax wrote:
What is this flavour story Helvetica. You're making things up. That stuff about the jailer seems to be just that, flavour. Did you even ask the host?

I for sure am not lying and got a standard roleblock notification, so don't try to pull these stunts on me.

@ Oo

You said in your post that Milkman was "confirmed town".

1. Why are you saying this? My points against him were strong and he was scummy, where is evidence that he was confirmed town? Did you know something I do not?

2. Why are you saying that to call me scummy but not to dissuade me from lynching him? And why aren't you pushing for a Chezinu lynch since he shot him?

There is only one true roleblocker in the game.

the malfunctioning protectitron is a medic/roleblocker. the clause at the end of the post says that if the malfunctioning protectitron protects you that night you will be notified (with the flavor of the concussion). i.e. it's impossible for two regular roleblocks to occur on any night and one of you is the liar

milkman is dead and flipped town by the way
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 16:36 GMT
#2622
Huh, I am moving to lynch Toadesstern.

Forget about the concussion stuff and tell me how there can be two regular roleblocks at night with only 1 regular roleblocker in the possible setup?

"you will be notified if you are protected in this way because of the concussion"

the only way I could think for there to be 2 roleblocks, essentially, was if someone was also concussed and notified of that. But that's not the case so someone is a liar.

I don't know why you're immediately on the defensive when I'm hard pushing Toadesstern to be lynched. One of you must be lying about being roleblocked last night.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 16:36 GMT
#2623
i.e. I'm not technically accusing you of anything. One of you is telling the truth and I think that it's you.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 16:37 GMT
#2624
Oh, shit how could I miss the "not"

Well that makes it even worse since there is only 1 possible notified roleblock in this game so one of you is still a liar
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 16:39 GMT
#2625
So we lynch Toadesstern today. If Toadesstern flips green/blue/third party, we kill Vivax that night. There is no town motivation to lie about being roleblocked, unless you want to potentially notify the mafia that you are indeed a power role? Toadesstern is the person most clearly concerned about his town credentials, so kill him.

The only logical thing for either of them to do at this point is try to convince town to lynch the other, there is no possible way we are lynching anybody else today. It's too much.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 16:47 GMT
#2627
If you're making that assumption I'll wait until Greymist confirms it, if it is indeed possible for there to be 2 regular roleblocks sent out at night.

1. grush isn't a dayvig it was a misunderstanding
2. chezinu explained like 3-4 times why he shot milkman
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 16:48 GMT
#2629
Thinking about it more you're probably right lol I got too overzealous with that one since I don't read carefully

we should still be lynching toadesstern anyway
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 17:13 GMT
#2633
On March 02 2013 01:58 Toadesstern wrote:
And for the love of god don't lynch Vivax because of "one of Vivax/Toad is a liar" because that statement is wrong, as already pointed out, although it's getting ignored.

You're right, I rescinded that.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 17:18 GMT
#2635
On March 02 2013 02:15 The Macho Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 00:18 Toadesstern wrote:
About hassy: The reason I'm ignoring him is that he kind of slipped while playing dota yesterday and I've got information I should not have. Around deadline I said something along the lines of "lol, they shot VE, not even mad" while skyping with him and Wiggles (as always when playing dota) not thinking about it and well Hassy answered something that either was a blatant towntell or a blatant mafiatell for me. Not going to tell which one.

I can't really ignore it when trying to analyze him so I'm ignoring him altogether and won't help on that matter. I shouldn't bring it in the thread because I'd consider that to be unfair.

dr.h do you think scum could write this post?

Yes, he's also a cheater and I've requested for him to be modkilled regardless of alignment
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 17:27 GMT
#2636
On February 26 2013 09:06 Toadesstern wrote:
##vote Wade Fell

lynching MilkSuckler seems like the way to go.


On February 26 2013 09:03 Toadesstern wrote:
milksuckler is apparently either an idiot or he's trying to look like one.
Show nested quote +
I am not going to lynch players D1 of whom I know that they are potentially very valuable townies, simply put: Vets. They deserve the right to have extra time, and mislynching them early is a huge loss for town.
Those who I know/heard of are: Sandroba and Chezinu.
If there are vets I don't know, please tell me. I expect these two to know other vets well.
If you are a vets' smurf, then tell me you are a vet.

I know someone who said the exact same thing (pretty much word for word) last time I played with a mayoral campaign.

Are you trying to imitate someone milksuckler or did you just copy & paste?



Also, I agreed with your initial logic on Prom. It wasn't a scumslip. You're already giving up so go ahead and die then, you're useless now.

Here is your call out of Prom:
On February 26 2013 10:25 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 10:21 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:17 Toadesstern wrote:
prom could you respond to what I (and VE in response) said over here:
On February 26 2013 10:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:04 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:57 Promethelax wrote:
Okay, so RNG didn't create the discussion I wanted. Screw you guys.

On February 26 2013 09:28 Wade Fell wrote:
My new platform is killing Layabout

Read his posts

hes scum


Explain.

For the moment my top scum read is WoS, he responded to gerpit's candidacy all wrong, obviously assuming gerpit is town but statistically...

On February 26 2013 09:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:20 geript wrote:
It looks to me that the best person for mayor is someone who is willing to:
A. put in the time to read the thread
B. both make and evaluate other's cases
C. is unlikely to be an early target for NK
In this regard I would nominate myself as I am more likely to devote more time to reading (both filters and filter in the context of the thread as a whole) than anyone else. Additionally, I am relatively unknown which removes untoward bias for or against me due to previous games as well as making me a more impartial arbiter as it regards established players.

My lynch platform is:
Scum read > hard/impossible to read > null read > town read

## vote geript

Except for the fact that you were killed N1 last game for the above reasons, by someone who is very likely smurfing in this game.


He focuses on the likelihood of a night kill on gerpit, he is too interested in night actions and not in the candidacy or the actual ideas which gerpit proposes. I'm not a fan of this post or WoS's mentality.

Vote me, screw random lynch. I'll lynch WoS.

are you mad that it didn't work or that you didn't get more credit for it?
Because it sure sounds like that. We had some discussion about the rnd you suggested, we had some discussion about what I suggested. I most definitely wouldn't phrase it the way your are


This is something I noticed too. It sparked discussion - I'm left wondering what kind of discussion he thought RNG was supposed to generate if it didn't generate the kind he wanted.

because again, the way you phrased that sounds awfully odd and I'm thinking of multiple explanations. None of them includes something you with a townie-mindset.


Because I wanted it to gain some real traction. I had an idea about actually getting close and withdrawing my nomination since if scum was up for lynch they'd be pushing me as mayor where if there was a townie up for lynch they'd be pushing against me. It's a plan that only works if I get support on it. That was the discussion I wanted to spark.

why did you tell us about being just being a plattform to create talk with if you wanted it to get some real traction?
That kind of counters your idea.

I'd say you wanted to look like someone who wants to create discussion but wants to make sure he looks good. When it became too hot (and it didn't, the timing to go back on that was way to early if you wanted to achieve something, so you're overly defensive for whatever reason) for your idea you went ahead yelling GUYS GUYS, I BE TROLL LOL DON'T TAKE ME SERIOUS

Do we have a dayvig?



What in that is a scumslip? You attacked his logic like anyone else but it wasn't anything a terrible terrible townie hasn't done before.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 17:32 GMT
#2638
How is impersonation scummy?

I still fail to see how Prom's RNG discussion is a guaranteed scumslip considering you also proposed discussion on a plan you didn't think was very good
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 17:34 GMT
#2639
And if you were still scumhunting, let's see the results. Let's see the fruits of all that effort you spent outside of "hey let's lynch grush"

but apparently you want to be lynched now, do you think yourself incapable of defending or explaining yourself?
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 20:04 GMT
#2685
At work rn will have lunch in 2 hours and then I can post. I'm off at 7pm pst
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 20:07 GMT
#2686
No way jj is scum
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 20:10 GMT
#2687
Is it true that 2 people claimed nightvig? I would be ok with lynching chez then
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 20:13 GMT
#2689
He called out my 2 top town reads too

I'm unsure about vivax but on lunch ill be reading geript and testsubject who tried to confuse the prom lynch
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 20:17 GMT
#2690
So back to my original day 1 guts which are prom/viv/geript/glurio/testsubj. Restraining order looks hella bad too.

Toades, I wont apologize for requesting your modkill but that day 1 attitude is unacceptable. I hope you learn from that instead of arrogantly chastising me postgame.

So - who tried to stop the prom lynch without hard defending him again? Lets look at those folks

I.e. who said "prom is prolly scum but lets not trust ppl who are accusing him or imma vote elsewhere"
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 20:18 GMT
#2692
Someone said no way town has 2 nightvig and 1 dayvig so I'm wondering if a second claimed
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 20:20 GMT
#2694
Sure but we can't only talk about him today
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 21:57 GMT
#2709
Lol earlier in this thread someone said something like "town wouldn't have 1 dayvig with 2 regular vigs" so I figured I missed a second claim

Also why would I ask a question to clear up a misunderstanding in the scum qt outside of the scum qt
RIP Aaliyah
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