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Corazon
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Corazon
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On February 28 2013 06:34 Alderan wrote: Can someone please tell me why we're giving town reads during the night period? Can someone tell me why we are giving off town reads at all? When someone asks it's ok but N0 everyone gave off town reads unnecessarily... | ||
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Corazon
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On February 28 2013 07:33 thrawn2112 wrote: we have less than 48 hours to pick another duel. so what if we vote on who we want to duel, and they get to chose their opponent? As long as we vote for Syl to duel, I'm fine with whoever he chooses. I really think Dieno/Syl is the best duel, but they are probably going to refuse to duel each other. Plus Syl will lurk and not even know he's supposed to duel until it is too late. | ||
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Corazon
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On February 28 2013 07:42 Alderan wrote: a) Why would they refuse to duel each other? They're both the scummiest of the bunch. Gives them the best chance for survival. b) I don't trust Syl to make the pick. I think Dieno should be the one to initiate the duel. I really don't trust either of them to pick each other. I think if one of these players does not pick the other I will lynch the player who initiated the duel. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 28 2013 07:50 Acrofales wrote: What's that supposed to mean. You going to make a case on me, or just keep cracking stupid jokes? Well that certainly shut him up... | ||
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Corazon
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The only occasion where you could duel someone is if Syl/Dieno refuse to duel each other and then we would systematically kill off both of them. There's already suspicion that you could be a 3P with a duel requirement. The more times you threaten to duel, the greater the suspicion will be. Just because Kei flipped scum doesn't make you a fucking God and we will let you do whatever you want. I pushed my scum reads on Syl back one day, I'm not having you coming in and making me wait even longer. I'm pretty sure others will agree with me on this: If you are town, take a step back and let others do the work. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 28 2013 14:21 Acrofales wrote: Can we get a 3rd instant majority lynch option for explicitly wanting a double lynch? I second this. | ||
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Corazon
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Anyways, if you want to duel me, you're going to have to clear it with the thread first. It's a bit obvious right now that the thread wants to see you and Dieno duel. I don't think anyone would take kindly to you just deciding you want to duel me. I've been scumhunting (you, Oats, Yamato early on), whereas you simply haven't. What happened to your suspicion on Oats? It's amazing that you've decided not to talk about him in your post. Is he town to you now, or have you realized your suspicions are completely wrong and have to resort to OMGUS to realize that you need to look like you are scumhunting? In case you haven't noticed, I said that "High Quality, Low Quantity" post types is still a town tell. If you're going to sit here and tell me that you have limited time, why don't you post more posts like your last big one? It was a decent quality post, and if your whole filter looked like that, I would be less inclined to call you scum. However, much of your early filter is just one-liners and posts that feign activeness when you're really just lurking. Lastly, why do you have to post your scum reads when you are dragged out of your hiding spot by your ear? Your lack of proactiveness is ridiculously scummy as well. @Hapa: Why would I switch off a vote that was most likely going to be deadlocked and letting a non-scum and a scum die to just have my supposed "scum-buddy" die? That doesn't make any sense. I wasn't focusing on Thrawn and Kei D1, I was more focused on Oats and Syl when it came to my scumhunting. The latter half of the duel consisted of us talking about people other than the duelists. I just decided to end it and instead of scumhunting with a hint towards the future, we speed things up and force the other scum to come out of their holes instead of sitting there and having a vote deadlock. In all honesty my switch from Adam is going to look scummy either way. If I had stayed on Adam I would've looked scummy for refusing to switch to a scum. I decided to switch and we lynched a scum. Let's have a party. On another note, if I had said "I'm switching cause I felt like it", would you have a town read on me? | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
However, I need to have another look at your filter to see if my read on you has changed since the last time. I will do that after school. No one needs a long post of my town and null reads. I just make scum reads unless asked for a town/null read. | ||
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Corazon
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On March 01 2013 00:44 Oatsmaster wrote: Um I didnt ask for a list. Lol. You do that Cora :D You seem to have something stuck up your ass, you need to chill out :D I'm not trying to OMGUS you, if that's what you are implying =P | ||
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Corazon
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@Hapa: Why would I switch off a vote that was most likely going to be deadlocked and letting a non-scum and a scum die to just have my supposed "scum-buddy" die? That doesn't make any sense. I wasn't focusing on Thrawn and Kei D1, I was more focused on Oats and Syl when it came to my scumhunting. The latter half of the duel consisted of us talking about people other than the duelists. I just decided to end it and instead of scumhunting with a hint towards the future, we speed things up and force the other scum to come out of their holes instead of sitting there and having a vote deadlock. In all honesty my switch from Adam is going to look scummy either way. If I had stayed on Adam I would've looked scummy for refusing to switch to a scum. I decided to switch and we lynched a scum. Let's have a party. On another note, if I had said "I'm switching cause I felt like it", would you have a town read on me? | ||
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Corazon
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On March 01 2013 07:28 Adam4167 wrote: This is about my 16th or so game, so still more than keirathi, according to his profile. Regardless.. Deino needs to flip. That will give me a very good indication as to yourself, considering how you were defending him on D1. Deino flips scum, the remaining scum will probably be yourself and one of Zare/Yamato - as per my reads post. You don't think Syl is scum? | ||
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Corazon
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So as long as he doesn't do anything "bad", you're still not going to have a scum read on him? | ||
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Corazon
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##Vote: Sylencia. Here is a quick summary: On February 27 2013 15:03 cDgCorazon wrote: So you have a null read on him? Let's forget my meta argument for a second. Let's take a look at what he has done this game: -Lurked at multiple important points in the game (he has <20 posts when many of us have 60+) -Many of his posts are short, have no real point, and are of no value to the town -Promised scum reads but never delivered on them -Trying to fly under the radar, only brought out when someone asks for it -Sits on the middle of the fence for [The Kei] lynch, showing he does not really care about the lynch It has scum written all over it. Is there anything I'm missing? I don't understand why you guys are voting for Dieno right now. If you think about it, a Sylencia lynch or a double lynch would give us the most information. Who are the three most suspicious players in this game? Me Syl Dieno If you guys sit here and lynch Dieno off, you get very little about my alignment (only the fact that I'm not voting for Dieno), and we would sit here and ask questions about me and Syl for another day and basically waste a Day (unless of course Dieno comes back as scum). If you guys lynch Sylencia, you guys get his flip and get information about both his and my alignment from the flip. It seems like a no-brainer to me. I'd love to see a double lynch, but if we are going to choose one person, I'd rather it be Syl. If he flips town, I'm ok dueling whoever you guys choose next. That's my promise. Lastly: @Acro: KISS | ||
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Corazon
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##Vote: Sylencia | ||
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Corazon
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@Syl: If we lynch Dieno, we are going to know his alignment. The problem with finding out his alignment first is that it is going to open us up to a ridiculous amount of association cases between me and you. Do we really want that? I don't think so. @Adam: I don't understand why we are all so convinced there aren't two scum here. It's a huge risk for scum, but if we have 66% or 100% of the scum team here, I think they would definitely need to take a risk as crazy as this in the hopes that we lynch one of them and allow the other one a "clean slate" really. If we are all assuming that one is scum and the other is town, we are all setting ourselves up to be duped by at least one scum player. I really think we need to double lynch. Even if we don't get 2 scum, we send the message that the town is not afraid to cut dead weight and distractions. | ||
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Corazon
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Double Lynch Sylencia Dieno Why do I still want the double lynch so badly? There are a couple of reasons for it: First of all, I think that Sylencia and Dieno have played really similar games. They've both lurked heavily throughout the first part of the game. They only talk when asked to come out and talk. They both have given either non-existant or weak scum reads. They've both refused to be pro-active in the scum hunt and let others give and take the heat without doing anything themselves. They're both playing scummy games, to say the least. Second of all, I think that Dieno's terrible argument on Syl is a ploy. Let's imagine for a minute that the scum team is at least made up of Kei, Syl, and Dieno. They've all set-up absolutely terrible N0's and D1's so far, and they've already lost a teammate. It would be hard for them to get town cred by giving reads out because we could just sit there and say that they gave them to us because we asked for them. Since it was pretty obvious that we've had our hearts set out on a Dieno/Syl duel today, they decided that that one of them would bus the other. Dieno then goes on to make a really weak argument against Syl to look like he's really scum. If we vote Dieno off and he does flip scum, Syl gets a clean slate from everyone. He's allowed to sit here and make a terrible association case that I'm scum based off of Dieno's flip and the chain of association cases (him assuming Dieno's alignment ≠ Syl's Alignment ≠ my alignment, which means I would be whatever Dieno flipped). I believe that it's just a ploy to give Syl town cred and allow him to make up for his crappy play just because he dueled a scum and won. Third of all, if we just lynch Dieno, we still have the question of me and Syl. I'm not suggesting it's an information lynch if we kill Sylencia, I'm saying that if we do not kill off Sylencia, we are going to sit here and waste a duel (and give the scum and extra NK) trying to find scum between Sylencia and I. If we lynch Syl and he flips green, I'm going to be the next one to duel that other possible scum that is in one of the more active townies and get the scum hunt going, instead of spending 2 days pondering the Cora vs. Sylencia debate. It's not an information lynch, it's a time-saving lynch. In other words, a Dieno lynch would leave us with more questions than a Syl or double lynch would. If I was scum, I would not be pushing this aggressive for Syl's lynch. I would be sitting here and milking my scumread of Syl so I could keep the rest of you from voting me out while I try to stay alive as much as possible. I would not have been the first one to suggest a Syl/Dieno duel. I'm sticking my neck out here because I have a big feeling that Syl is scum. I'm a bit disappointed that all of my work is going to just be ignored because Dieno makes one crappy argument about Syl and I don't understand why said crappy argument is giving everyone a town read on Syl when he's playing just as scummy as Dieno. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On March 02 2013 05:44 Acrofales wrote: Dieno's argument has absolutely nothing to do with why people don't want to lynch Sylencia. You have a few more hours to convince me that Sylencia's play is so completely different from his play in NMM 37 that it makes him scum, even if I believe Dieno is also scum. Why would anyone with a town win-con try to emulate Syl's game from NMM 37, especially Syl himself? | ||
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