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Also DIeno, I need some of your other reads. What's your current view on Oats?
You had this earlier quote on Oats...
On February 27 2013 16:05 Dienosore wrote:Wait, hold on... Did I read this right? Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 15:38 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont think that Keirathi is gonna flip scum, but on the slight chance that he is trying not to draw flack for his play, I am in favour of lynching him. Quoting this for preservation purposes.
...which sounds like you really thought he was scum. In that regard, I'm surprised you jumped on Sylencia so quickly.
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Yeah, that's why I like my plan =)
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On March 01 2013 14:27 thrawn2112 wrote: i hate it tbh. but there seems to be no other sensible option.
that being said i'd like to know who you would vote for if you had to pick one.
Dieno. Pretty sure I mentioned that before.
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Hm Adam, that's an interesting take on Syl. Gonna sleep on that one.
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Thrawn, I call bullshit on your Syl read.
You were convinced yesterday that both Syl and Dieno were scum. Also, you were NOT convinced by Adam's argument that only one of Syl/Dieno could be scum.
With this in mind, it makes ZERO sense for you to have hammered Dieno in the manner that you did. If two of your scumreads were legitimately up on the chopping block, you should have been GUNNING for a double-lynch.
Yet you voted Dieno because "the thread was going nowhere."
On March 02 2013 11:15 Acrofales wrote: This thread is dead and drifting. Lets kill Dieno and move on.
##vote Dienosore
On March 02 2013 11:16 thrawn2112 wrote: yep
##Vote: Dienosore
syl goes up for lynch tomorrow regardless of what dieno flips
The only reason I can think of for you wanting to vote Dieno is for the sake of appeasing the town. You had every reason to want to push for a double-lynch yesterday, and you didn't stick to your guns.
Thrawn is mafia. Discuss.
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Also, I think Cora is town.
He spent all of yesterday taking an extremely unpopular opinion against everyone else in the thread. It should be clear from yesterday that Dieno was bussed, and Cora instead attracted as much attention to himself as possible by voting Syl.
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Lastly, I want to see a Snarfs/Thrawn duel tomorrow.
A reminder of his opening post...
On February 25 2013 03:06 Snarfs wrote: Ahhh yesss!! Finally a game where I'm not mafia! It's been too long. Far too long.
Obvious rule number 1: no one calls for a duel unless we have a majority of the thread agreeing on it.
Obvious rule number 2: we use as much of the day as possible before calling for duels.
Anyone ignoring rules 1 or 2 should be put under extreme scrutiny for acting against town goals.
Super excited to play town, proceeds to lurk and post a bunch of one-liners. The fact that it's Night 2 and he hasn't fixed this means that he needs to be on the chopping block tomorrow, and has a high chance of flipping red.
Also, my ego would love it if I caught 3 mafia on Day 1: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=398360¤tpage=26#514
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On March 02 2013 14:55 Acrofales wrote: Hapa is not reading the thread... like... at all. He just threw those quotes together from thrawn without even looking at the other posts thrawn made.
Hapa scum?
Yeah Thrawn backed down, but that doesn't invalidate the point.
At the time of the hammer (evidenced by his posts after the Nightpost), he supported a Syl lynch. Why would he not go for the double-lynch then?
On March 02 2013 14:56 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 14:52 Hapahauli wrote: Also, I think Cora is town.
He spent all of yesterday taking an extremely unpopular opinion against everyone else in the thread. It should be clear from yesterday that Dieno was bussed, and Cora instead attracted as much attention to himself as possible by voting Syl. Yeah, that opinion has been voiced about 50 times now.
Oh whoops. Yeah I dunno how I missed that stuff.
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On March 02 2013 15:03 Acrofales wrote: Okay, Hapa. Is Sylencia scum?
Probably not. I agree with Adam's analysis of things, and given the types of players that Syl/Dieno are, I can't really see them doing something that brave as a scum-pair.
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On March 02 2013 15:12 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 15:06 Hapahauli wrote:On March 02 2013 15:03 Acrofales wrote: Okay, Hapa. Is Sylencia scum? Probably not. I agree with Adam's analysis of things, and given the types of players that Syl/Dieno are, I can't really see them doing something that brave as a scum-pair. So your reasoning for thrawn being scum is that he hammered his scumbuddy instead of hoping for a 1-1 trade? And just so he could hammer before someone else did, which was bound to happen anyway?
Yes my theory is that Thrawn hammered his scumbuddy Dieno yesterday. His voting actions were not consistent with his suspicions yesterday.
He was very convinced of the Syl/Dieno scum team yesterday. If that is true, why on earth would he not want a double lynch? There is ZERO incentive for him not wanting both to be dead yesterday. Instead, he hammered Dieno because he agreed with you that "discussion was going nowhere."
It's completely inconsistent with his suspicions. The only reason Thrawn voted Dieno was to look good.
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On March 02 2013 15:13 thrawn2112 wrote: hapa wanna duel?
No, I want to see you and Snarfs duel.
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On March 02 2013 15:21 thrawn2112 wrote:well wtf are we going to do about corozon? i don't think he's bluffing, and I don't want either syl or cor to be up for lynch tomorrow. so, dueling party at deadline? don't forget your gun Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 15:17 Hapahauli wrote:On March 02 2013 15:13 thrawn2112 wrote: hapa wanna duel? No, I want to see you and Snarfs duel. i'm not dueling snarfs. haven't even read his filter recently. plus town gets no info from thrawn flipping town. hapa please reread my filter in its entirety and let me know if you are srs about this
So why dont you: a) Read Snarfs filter b) Tell me how the fuck you voting Dieno yesterday makes sense.
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On March 02 2013 15:25 thrawn2112 wrote: why aren't you willing to duel? I am your #1 scumread, no?
We'll deal with that tomorrow. I'm more concerned about talking about relevant things. Once again, your vote on Dieno. Explain.
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On March 02 2013 15:48 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 15:29 Hapahauli wrote:On March 02 2013 15:25 thrawn2112 wrote: why aren't you willing to duel? I am your #1 scumread, no? We'll deal with that tomorrow. I'm more concerned about talking about relevant things. Once again, your vote on Dieno. Explain. Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 18:22 thrawn2112 wrote: If I have to assume that both aren't scum (which i'm conflicted about atm) I am taking syl's side against dieno. kinda waiting for syl to show up before deciding if I want double lynch
also if you read my filter it is pretty obvious that I'd lynch dieno over syl any day. what is the issue you have with my vote? your case is that i voted for guy who flipped red, while I should have voted for double lynch? yes I wanted to double lynch, and I also preferred dieno over syl. i don't exactly see what you're trying to accuse me of... especially since syl is unflipped.
The issue I have is that you were suspicious as fuck of Syl all of yesterday and weren't trying to get him killed. There is no townie motivation for you not pushing for a double-lynch yesterday.
while we're on the topic of voting actions during d2, lets look at yours: Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 09:29 Hapahauli wrote: Oh Dieno pulled the trigger. That went easier than expected.
Anyway, by default I want you both dead. It's up to both of you to indvidiaully convince me that I'm wrong and that you're town. and that's all you did. you didn't stay in the thread talking about dieno's/syls's post or give anaylsis about which might be scum or which might be town. you didn't do anything.
Dieno was my scumread from Day 1. You literally copied my case on him, so don't tell me I didn't do a post-by-post analysis.
whats the story of your suspicions on me this game? when did they change and stuff etc, leading up till now
I went from "thrawn is off" to "thrawn is scum" after the deadline. Again, no townie reason for you not pushing for the double lynch yesterday.
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On March 02 2013 16:08 thrawn2112 wrote: HAPA:
you did nothing yesterday. you immediately decided that they should both get lynched and that they should prove themselves town. then you disappeared from the thread until after the flip
did either of them prove they were town to you? if not, then why were you not talking people out of a double lynch? you made no significant contribution in a day where a scum was lynched, and we made a major decision not to stick with the plan of double lynching.
I was away - hard to talk people out of something when I'm not there. Hell I wasn't expecting the day to run under 24 hours, and I would have tried to get my ass in the thread had I had known.
And you still haven't given a reason to me for why you didn't push to kill Syl - one of your top scumreads - yesterday.
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On March 02 2013 16:18 thrawn2112 wrote: hapa here is your case against me:
thrawn wanted both dieno and syl dead
thrawn decided to only kill dieno
..........
thrawn is scum???
I can't answer your question because it doesn't make sense. Why didn't I decide to kill syl? Read my back and forth with Adam where he convinces me it's logically smarter to only kill 1 of them. The 2nd to last time I voted Dieno my mind was basically made up. I only unvoted because I wanted to stall the cycle out longer to let people such as yourself post first. After awhile the thread was going nowhere so I re-voted.
That's a complete misrepresentation of what occured.
You had a chance to kill TWO of your scumreads in one shot, and you did not take it. Killing TWO of your scumreads in one shot is far better than killing ONE.
Yet you turned down the prospect of killing Syl simply because... "discussion wasn't going anywhere?!"
Sense. That makes none.
On March 02 2013 16:19 thrawn2112 wrote: adam, how is hapa obviously town
I'll answer that for him. Either I'm town, or I'm scum that decided on the brilliant strategy of bussing all of my teammates at points where it was completely unnecessary for me to do so. Uh huh.
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On March 02 2013 16:28 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 16:25 Hapahauli wrote: I'll answer that for him. Either I'm town, or I'm scum that decided on the brilliant strategy of bussing all of my teammates at points where it was completely unnecessary for me to do so. Uh huh. bussing all of your teammates instantly would be the only smart way for mafia to survive this game. everyone had been calling dieno and keir scum since their first posts.
+ Show Spoiler +
Yes, that's totally the most likely and reasonably explanation for it. Totally.
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On March 02 2013 16:31 thrawn2112 wrote: Hapa, I'm serious, do you want to duel?
That's what I'm trying to decide right now. You're not responding to this like I would have expected scum-Thrawn to tbh.
I still can't for the life of me see why you wouldn't take the opportunity to kill two birds with one stone.
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Yeah fuck it Thrawn's probably town. He's not reacting to this like he would as scum at all. He was one of the first on Kei with me, and that's pretty early for the bus given the momentum on Adam.
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