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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
February 14 2013 16:32 GMT
#621
On February 15 2013 01:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Hassybaby


This is a serious vote. Considering what happened with Hassybaby in Parallel where he was really active, this is disturbing.

Really active? He had 5 pages of filter (across both worlds) and survived until LYLO (which was day 6).
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
February 14 2013 16:36 GMT
#622
Maaaaaaaan, Keirathi beating people to comments again. I was trying to find a post of Hassy's in chaos to get a filter

I do remember Hassy being more active there, which isn't hard, but mainly remember him making some comments concerning current thread events that were in line with what I was thinking. Especially D1, there was a lot of spam about how we should vote to swap/lynch that game, and he made a few posts that just felt thought out concerning what he preferred.

Here, there's an absence of that entirely. You can summarize his posts in 2 bullet points basically, and one of those is just that he seems to have something concerning his role that he wants to discuss at an unknown time in the future.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
February 14 2013 16:39 GMT
#623
Sylencia, are you around?
Fe fi fo fum.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
February 14 2013 16:41 GMT
#624
Speaking of which:

##Vote: Oatsmaster

This is the second time you've made a bullshit "read" with terrible reasoning. If you were town, you would be voting/giving town reads for real reasons, not something you just made up that sounded good.

Also, while I'm on the subject of Oats, a question for Marv:

(From the post-game of LVIII)
On January 12 2013 01:53 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 01:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yeah Djo's scum play scares me


I became incredibly suspicious of Djo right around where I ragequit. Witness the following posts:

Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 06:38 Djodref wrote:

Do you have any breadcrumb by the way ?


Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 09:14 Djodref wrote:

@ Keir

Did you cacth up with the whole thread now ?
What do you make of this day ? Do you think mafia was on BC's lynch ?

Also I would like to know if the fact that we have already 2 cops dead change anything about your read on marv.


Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 10:00 Djodref wrote:
On January 05 2013 09:52 marvellosity wrote:
Kei, why don't you stop talking about Toad, and start talking about more interesting people like Meapak or froggy.


@ marv

Who do you think mafia was voting at the end of day 1 ?


All these questions/points are useless, and serve no direction. He's asking all the wrong questions.


So why is it that when Oats does this same thing (asking irrelevent questions that serve no direction or purpose), you give Oats a town read?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 14 2013 16:42 GMT
#625
Oh really keirathi? Guess I must of thought that with his huge picture and generally mod confirmed town after day 1, that he was more active.

Its still a problem. As austin has pointed out.
No gg, No skill.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
February 14 2013 16:44 GMT
#626
On February 15 2013 01:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oh really keirathi? Guess I must of thought that with his huge picture and generally mod confirmed town after day 1, that he was more active.

Its still a problem. As austin has pointed out.

? When was he modconfirmed town that game?
Fe fi fo fum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2013 16:47 GMT
#627
On February 15 2013 01:41 Keirathi wrote:
Speaking of which:

##Vote: Oatsmaster

This is the second time you've made a bullshit "read" with terrible reasoning. If you were town, you would be voting/giving town reads for real reasons, not something you just made up that sounded good.

Also, while I'm on the subject of Oats, a question for Marv:

(From the post-game of LVIII)
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 01:53 marvellosity wrote:
On January 12 2013 01:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yeah Djo's scum play scares me


I became incredibly suspicious of Djo right around where I ragequit. Witness the following posts:

On January 05 2013 06:38 Djodref wrote:

Do you have any breadcrumb by the way ?


On January 05 2013 09:14 Djodref wrote:

@ Keir

Did you cacth up with the whole thread now ?
What do you make of this day ? Do you think mafia was on BC's lynch ?

Also I would like to know if the fact that we have already 2 cops dead change anything about your read on marv.


On January 05 2013 10:00 Djodref wrote:
On January 05 2013 09:52 marvellosity wrote:
Kei, why don't you stop talking about Toad, and start talking about more interesting people like Meapak or froggy.


@ marv

Who do you think mafia was voting at the end of day 1 ?


All these questions/points are useless, and serve no direction. He's asking all the wrong questions.


So why is it that when Oats does this same thing (asking irrelevent questions that serve no direction or purpose), you give Oats a town read?


Hello, gentleman Keirathi. Simply enough, young Oats and Djodref are not the same gentleman.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2013 16:52 GMT
#628
Perhaps to elaborate a little for you, gentleman Keirathi. To me it is a sign of young Oats' good intent if he is willingly "making bullshit reads with terrible reasonining." As you are probably aware, sir, I was able to discern young Oats' bad intentions in the establishment named 'LIX', for the reasoning that he had no reads at all, 'bullshit' or otherwise.

Truly it can be argued that young Oats does not make arguments rigorously or perhaps even correctly; yet I have not seen the evil intentions that I have been able to discern before.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 14 2013 16:55 GMT
#629
If you were town, you would be voting/giving town reads for real reasons, not something you just made up that sounded good.

How about, NOPE?

You clearly agree with me on the BH read, so I dont know what your problem is there, even if I justified it with general reasoning rather than specific to BH.
Also, I was right on Hassybaby. He was more active and useful in Parallel than in here by a LARGE margin.
No gg, No skill.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
February 14 2013 16:59 GMT
#630
On February 15 2013 01:47 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 01:41 Keirathi wrote:
Speaking of which:

##Vote: Oatsmaster

This is the second time you've made a bullshit "read" with terrible reasoning. If you were town, you would be voting/giving town reads for real reasons, not something you just made up that sounded good.

Also, while I'm on the subject of Oats, a question for Marv:

(From the post-game of LVIII)
On January 12 2013 01:53 marvellosity wrote:
On January 12 2013 01:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yeah Djo's scum play scares me


I became incredibly suspicious of Djo right around where I ragequit. Witness the following posts:

On January 05 2013 06:38 Djodref wrote:

Do you have any breadcrumb by the way ?


On January 05 2013 09:14 Djodref wrote:

@ Keir

Did you cacth up with the whole thread now ?
What do you make of this day ? Do you think mafia was on BC's lynch ?

Also I would like to know if the fact that we have already 2 cops dead change anything about your read on marv.


On January 05 2013 10:00 Djodref wrote:
On January 05 2013 09:52 marvellosity wrote:
Kei, why don't you stop talking about Toad, and start talking about more interesting people like Meapak or froggy.


@ marv

Who do you think mafia was voting at the end of day 1 ?


All these questions/points are useless, and serve no direction. He's asking all the wrong questions.


So why is it that when Oats does this same thing (asking irrelevent questions that serve no direction or purpose), you give Oats a town read?


Hello, gentleman Keirathi. Simply enough, young Oats and Djodref are not the same gentleman.

So Djo is known for not asking irrelevant questions, but Oats does? I wasn't aware of that. Please, some examples.

On February 15 2013 01:52 marvellosity wrote:
Perhaps to elaborate a little for you, gentleman Keirathi. To me it is a sign of young Oats' good intent if he is willingly "making bullshit reads with terrible reasonining." As you are probably aware, sir, I was able to discern young Oats' bad intentions in the establishment named 'LIX', for the reasoning that he had no reads at all, 'bullshit' or otherwise.

Truly it can be argued that young Oats does not make arguments rigorously or perhaps even correctly; yet I have not seen the evil intentions that I have been able to discern before.

Fair point. But I would endeavor to take it a step further. If young Mr. Oats was caught so handily by yourself in LIX, wouldn't the natural human instinct be to try something different? As a great scientist once said, it is the height of folly to keep repeating the same experiment hoping for different results.

And I don't see the transition from No Reads -> No Reads That Can Be Backed Up With Facts to be a big jump in playstyle.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 14 2013 17:01 GMT
#631
Read this game Keirathi

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381931&user=286833

It might change your MIND
No gg, No skill.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
February 14 2013 17:04 GMT
#632
On February 15 2013 01:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
If you were town, you would be voting/giving town reads for real reasons, not something you just made up that sounded good.

How about, NOPE?

You clearly agree with me on the BH read, so I dont know what your problem is there, even if I justified it with general reasoning rather than specific to BH.
Also, I was right on Hassybaby. He was more active and useful in Parallel than in here by a LARGE margin.

AFAIK I never said I agreed with your read on BH. I think BH is quite capable of making the posts he has so far as either alignment. In fact, in the game you are so fond of referencing, BH was quite comfortable attempting to push a lynch on yamato for terrible, easily refutable reasoning.

For the moment, I am actually leaning toward BH town, but very marginally.

Also, I still disagree about Hassy. You said "really active". He posted in spurts. He would have days where he had 5-6 posts, then days where he had 25 posts.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2013 17:04 GMT
#633
Fortunately this gentleman does not believe that young Oats will be ran out of this establishment today, so I have little need to spend my precius relaxation time visiting the records of his previous stays in different establishments, as you are able to do so yourself, gentleman Keirathi.

On February 15 2013 01:36 austinmcc wrote:
Maaaaaaaan, Keirathi beating people to comments again. I was trying to find a post of Hassy's in chaos to get a filter

I do remember Hassy being more active there, which isn't hard, but mainly remember him making some comments concerning current thread events that were in line with what I was thinking. Especially D1, there was a lot of spam about how we should vote to swap/lynch that game, and he made a few posts that just felt thought out concerning what he preferred.

Here, there's an absence of that entirely. You can summarize his posts in 2 bullet points basically, and one of those is just that he seems to have something concerning his role that he wants to discuss at an unknown time in the future.


Given that you were also in the establishment in a different universe, do you agree or disagree with this assessment, sir? Or perhaps you disagree with my own assessment of the gentleman named Hassybaby?

Verily, when I see similarities in behaviour between establishments and differences, I prefer to concentrate on the differences, rather than speculating whimsically that a certain gentleman may have changed his discourse.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
February 14 2013 17:07 GMT
#634
I don't love saying Hassy was more active "by a large margin," but for reference: Hassy's filter from the world he started out in in Parallel mafia

At least within his D1, he's actively reading both threads. He discusses the general plan of who to swap where. He asks Foolishness, who was in the other thread, some questions concerning Foolishness's posts. When Darkfire posts his weird claim, Hassy questions Darkfire. When Dieno is being lynched (and after lynch), he's trying to draw conclusions from what was happening.

A lot of his activity was on that first day, and it somewhat tailed off afterwards. I would like to see hassy more active, but I don't currently want to vote him as #1.
Fe fi fo fum.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
February 14 2013 17:09 GMT
#635
On February 15 2013 02:07 austinmcc wrote:
I don't love saying Hassy was more active "by a large margin," but for reference: Hassy's filter from the world he started out in in Parallel mafia

At least within his D1, he's actively reading both threads. He discusses the general plan of who to swap where. He asks Foolishness, who was in the other thread, some questions concerning Foolishness's posts. When Darkfire posts his weird claim, Hassy questions Darkfire. When Dieno is being lynched (and after lynch), he's trying to draw conclusions from what was happening.

A lot of his activity was on that first day, and it somewhat tailed off afterwards. I would like to see hassy more active, but I don't currently want to vote him as #1.

then who do you want to kill the most?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 14 2013 17:10 GMT
#636
Hey guys, just checking in real fast.

I've had a very stressful ~20 hours. I've been following along, but haven't had the mental capacity to post. I'll be back in a few hours, and when I return, I will be ready to help you guys kill some scum.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
February 14 2013 17:12 GMT
#637
ohai marv.

Hassy was an active participant in D1, see above. He felt less active during other day. D1 there also required a bit more planning, as we pretty much had to decide how to play that game on D1, whereas D1 here is just "okay instant majority."

If I take the setup posts out, there's still meat there. Questioning foolishness, questioning darkfire, generally keeping track of things. It's absent here. Gotta admit though, I haven't played with hassy much, and don't think I've played with scum hassy. That's one reason I don't want to lynch based purely on differences between Parallel and here...that's not really a sample size of his play that I can trust.

I'd rather be able to judge his posts and his decisions. If there isn't anything in that bucket to go off of, I'd be down to lynch him tomorrow I guess, but this is just a blind lynch at this point.
Fe fi fo fum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2013 17:13 GMT
#638
On February 15 2013 02:12 austinmcc wrote:
ohai marv.

Hassy was an active participant in D1, see above. He felt less active during other day. D1 there also required a bit more planning, as we pretty much had to decide how to play that game on D1, whereas D1 here is just "okay instant majority."

If I take the setup posts out, there's still meat there. Questioning foolishness, questioning darkfire, generally keeping track of things. It's absent here. Gotta admit though, I haven't played with hassy much, and don't think I've played with scum hassy. That's one reason I don't want to lynch based purely on differences between Parallel and here...that's not really a sample size of his play that I can trust.

I'd rather be able to judge his posts and his decisions. If there isn't anything in that bucket to go off of, I'd be down to lynch him tomorrow I guess, but this is just a blind lynch at this point.


My apologies, sir - my conversation was directed at gentleman Keirathi, not your fine self.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2013 17:14 GMT
#639
To wit - I utilised your discourse as I myself appreciated it, and wished to present it to another.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
February 14 2013 17:14 GMT
#640
On February 15 2013 02:09 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 02:07 austinmcc wrote:
I don't love saying Hassy was more active "by a large margin," but for reference: Hassy's filter from the world he started out in in Parallel mafia

At least within his D1, he's actively reading both threads. He discusses the general plan of who to swap where. He asks Foolishness, who was in the other thread, some questions concerning Foolishness's posts. When Darkfire posts his weird claim, Hassy questions Darkfire. When Dieno is being lynched (and after lynch), he's trying to draw conclusions from what was happening.

A lot of his activity was on that first day, and it somewhat tailed off afterwards. I would like to see hassy more active, but I don't currently want to vote him as #1.

then who do you want to kill the most?

I started a post saying gonzaw, but I don't think that's my choice. Pretty sure I'm overvaluing LIX in being willing to lynch him, because there I didn't put enough stock in his activity. Here, he was momentarily Gonzaw after being called out, and then went back to being nothing. That's the same pattern that I didn't value enough in LIX, but the circumstances are also different in that he had a red check there and no red check here.

What I would really like is for Sylencia or Cheesecake to show up and be able to chat with them for like 20 minutes.
Fe fi fo fum.
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