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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
On February 13 2013 12:16 gonzaw wrote:
Well basically (from what I remember in other games) nobody votes at all and keep discussing stuff until they have the balls to lynch someone, just so they don't hammer too soon.
and from what I remember from hosting plenty of instant majority lynch games, this scenario works out really well for town and really poorly for scum
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So why arent you voting for Mayoral lynch then?
And dont say its cause instant majority is better.
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
I'm not saying mayoral lynch is better. I'm saying that the reasoning you gave for instant majority being better (and note, instant majority is in fact better), is fallacious and springs from a scum mindset. The issue isn't that you disagree with me, but rather, that your agreeing with me is done in a scummy way.
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
Also, the fact that you haven't taken a moment to read my filter and realize my own reasoning for instant majority lynch is not helping your case in the slightest.
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I just said why mayoral lynch is bad.
Dont see what you said about mayoral lynch being bad.
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
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Now that GreY answered my question and I know that pick your poison is only happening today, I definitely want instant majority lynch. It's the best option.
On February 13 2013 12:13 gonzaw wrote:
You know, all the PYP things relate to lynching, so we know there' a lynch next cycle.
Thus we know only these games can take place tomorrow:
Witchcraft
Election
Chrono trigger
Looney thing
Whose line
Nice to know. I want Whose Line!
I want to perform a Hoedown.
So the hilarious thing is as much as I loved WLIIA mafia, I'm glad I died when I did because I actually didn't want to do the hoedown lol.
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
Nice try moving goalposts mr oats
unless you have something more to say I think my case stands for itself
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
Lets stop talking about the pick your poison mechanic. I think we've come to a decision and we don't need to hear 17 people explain why a secret ballot/mayor is a bad idea.
On February 13 2013 11:12 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 09:32 Blazinghand wrote:
I've already signaled my role-reciever that I'm his role-creator, if he's smart enough to pick up on it. If he's not, well, that's pretty typical of him. But it's okay. why would you want to do that?
I was also planning to ask this. From my perspective, I wouldn't want the player that I created a role for to know my identity, since it allows them to openly perform a fake claim the moment I die. A fake claim is a huge risk if you don't know if your role creator is still alive.
I'm also kinda weary that BH is potentially trying to buddy up to me from my previous post and is posting opinions that are absolute, but he appears to be the only other person actually trying to generate relevant discussion so I'm willing to give him a pass.
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On February 13 2013 12:29 Blazinghand wrote:
Nice try moving goalposts mr oats
unless you have something more to say I think my case stands for itself
I don't really...see a case?
His reasoning isn't necessarily bad, it just differs from yours.
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And BH has confirmation bias.
THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT.
fuck BH I am ignoring him until he makes sense.
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On February 13 2013 12:04 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 12:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
Well, I dont think mayor is necessarily good because its not worth the risk IMO.
If we vote in scum, We will defiantly not get a scum lynch tomorrow, and also, it basically kills discussion.
your reasons are bad you are scum ##unvote
##vote Oatsmaster
This man seems to speak the truth.
##Unvote
##Vote: Oatsmaster
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BH is town, he is just horrible at the game.
Dandel Ion, Im not so sure. He hasnt done anything so far.
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On February 13 2013 12:29 Blazinghand wrote:
Nice try moving goalposts mr oats
unless you have something more to say I think my case stands for itself
you have a case because i seem to have missed it?
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On February 13 2013 12:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
BH is town, he is just horrible at the game.
Dandel Ion, Im not so sure. He hasnt done anything so far.
And what exactly has BH done that makes you so sure that he is town?
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
On February 13 2013 12:33 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 12:29 Blazinghand wrote:
Nice try moving goalposts mr oats
unless you have something more to say I think my case stands for itself I don't really...see a case? His reasoning isn't necessarily bad, it just differs from yours.
Look, think about your thought process as a townie when you evaluated the three options. You probably rejected the Secret Ballot out of hand barring some weird circumstances because it takes information away from town, then you thought about Mayoral and Instant Majority. Thinking about the strengths and drawbacks of both, you'd note that Mayoral elections produce a different kind of discussion than lynch votes (not necessarily better or worse) and the actual vote itself tends to be about who says they'll use the lynch on whom and who you have a town-read on. Instant Majority sounds dangerous but actually buts the scum under a lot of pressure assuming nobody gets dumb and jumps the gun on the hammer.
But what you don't think about, and I'm certain nobody town aligned thinks about as a main reason not to use mayoral, is the possibility of making a scum player mayor. It's a risk of mayoral, but it's not the reason you wouldn't run it-- after all, if what the mayor does is pick who gets lynched, picking a scum player to be mayor isn't a huge risk. We're not giving powers to the scumteam, and in fact, having a scum under that spotlight could be very helpful to town. From a townie perspective, which any townie will have, you probably want instant majority because it's simple and lets you lynch someone. You want your vote to do something and you want to put pressure on the scum. You don't reject mayoral because a scum might get elected-- this might actually be the best outcome short of a townie get elected and lynching scum. You reject mayoral because instant majority is better and gives you more power to hunt scum.
Oats came into this giving reasoning that comes from a mindset not of townie scumhunting, but of scum shirking responsibility and blending in, and thinking fearfully.
I thought this was pretty obvious, guys
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
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In case you didnt know BH, I just played a Mayoral election game AS SCUM, so I am aware of the benefits that scum has to gain if they are elected mayor.
So I am wrong, big deal BH.
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I sheeped you before you walloftext'd.
##hipsterswag
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Also, BH is town, because as scum, there is no point to put yourself under the spotlight this early when you can use that post later in a larger analysis.
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