• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:24
CET 14:24
KST 22:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns6[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach
Tourneys
WardiTV Winter Cup WardiTV Mondays SC2 AI Tournament 2026 OSC Season 13 World Championship uThermal 2v2 Circuit
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion I would like to say something about StarCraft StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest Data analysis on 70 million replays
Tourneys
[BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread The Big Programming Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
How do archons sleep?
8882
Psychological Factors That D…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
GOAT of Goats list
BisuDagger
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1128 users

Newbie Mini Mafia XXXVII - Page 84

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 82 83 84 85 86 92 Next
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 19 2013 21:10 GMT
#1661
Coincidentially, RNG lynches are also awesome.

Bonus points if you RNG into the lurkers.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
February 19 2013 21:12 GMT
#1662
Lol the only time I felt Mocsta was scum was when he made the joke unvote to control my shot for the night. GJ dude might have gone differently if I hadn't been lynched. TU could have saved his case and life by keeping quiet.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 19 2013 21:15 GMT
#1663
I would wanted to keep u as gun for hire if u didn't try so hard to dodge the case hejhe.

U became too untrustworthy for me from that point on
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 19 2013 21:18 GMT
#1664
On February 20 2013 06:02 Promethelax wrote:
Policy lynches are wonderful, they enforce the way townies must play and therefore how scum have to play. I love lynch all lurkers (which is different than LAL which is for liars).

I don't like how the sk balances in minis but it does balance, you actually gain more by leaving him alive for a while. He needs to hit scum after three townies are dead. His only hope of winning after being found out is a kingmaker scenario.


Holding the SK alive is pretty hopeless for town. Scum can RB him forever, or let him fire if they think he will miss. Plus town can't know if he is actually the SK (because again, if he was scum the real SK would obviously never claim and OO would still claim SK to try and survive). Unless we had a certain scum candidate to hit, we basically have to take out OO in case he flips scum.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
February 19 2013 21:18 GMT
#1665
Good thing you did though. I had been considering shooting Mandasnore N2
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 19 2013 21:19 GMT
#1666
On February 20 2013 06:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 06:02 Promethelax wrote:
Policy lynches are wonderful, they enforce the way townies must play and therefore how scum have to play. I love lynch all lurkers (which is different than LAL which is for liars).

I don't like how the sk balances in minis but it does balance, you actually gain more by leaving him alive for a while. He needs to hit scum after three townies are dead. His only hope of winning after being found out is a kingmaker scenario.


Holding the SK alive is pretty hopeless for town. Scum can RB him forever, or let him fire if they think he will miss. Plus town can't know if he is actually the SK (because again, if he was scum the real SK would obviously never claim and OO would still claim SK to try and survive). Unless we had a certain scum candidate to hit, we basically have to take out OO in case he flips scum.

You didn't have a certain scum candidate because you didn't look for one and resigned yourselves to lynching the SK, because you didn't have a certain scum candidate.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 19 2013 21:20 GMT
#1667
Reading OBS qt and some great discussion around keeping SK alive or not.

Def worth a read.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 19 2013 21:20 GMT
#1668
Around post 160ish
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 19 2013 21:21 GMT
#1669
On February 20 2013 06:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 06:02 Promethelax wrote:
Policy lynches are wonderful, they enforce the way townies must play and therefore how scum have to play. I love lynch all lurkers (which is different than LAL which is for liars).

I don't like how the sk balances in minis but it does balance, you actually gain more by leaving him alive for a while. He needs to hit scum after three townies are dead. His only hope of winning after being found out is a kingmaker scenario.


Holding the SK alive is pretty hopeless for town. Scum can RB him forever, or let him fire if they think he will miss. Plus town can't know if he is actually the SK (because again, if he was scum the real SK would obviously never claim and OO would still claim SK to try and survive). Unless we had a certain scum candidate to hit, we basically have to take out OO in case he flips scum.


Oh its totally hopeless unless scum rb has already flipped. What I actually meant is not finding out he is sk until later in the game. An sk alive for only one night cycle is shit because he will invariably tip the balance too far in one direction (unless there was a scum lynch d1).
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 19 2013 21:22 GMT
#1670
Even if we were going to lynch OO at the end of the day, I think we should have pretended that he might be able to earn another day of life, and pretended that we weren't going to lynch him. That gives us all day to scum hunt, and then we have a Plan B if we don't feel good about our scum hunting.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 19 2013 21:23 GMT
#1671
On February 20 2013 06:22 zarepath wrote:
Even if we were going to lynch OO at the end of the day, I think we should have pretended that he might be able to earn another day of life, and pretended that we weren't going to lynch him. That gives us all day to scum hunt, and then we have a Plan B if we don't feel good about our scum hunting.

Not "pretend"

That's what you should have done, period.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
February 19 2013 21:24 GMT
#1672
Being D2 outed was liberating. If town had been more active and concentrated less on me I would have helped out with a scum candidate. But you guys mostly AFK'd so all I gave you was jokes and pointless commentary. =P
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 19 2013 21:25 GMT
#1673
On February 20 2013 06:24 ObviousOne wrote:
Being D2 outed was liberating. If town had been more active and concentrated less on me I would have helped out with a scum candidate. But you guys mostly AFK'd so all I gave you was jokes and pointless commentary. =P

As SK, you have no obligation to help anybody whatsoever.
So that's fine.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 21:45:43
February 19 2013 21:35 GMT
#1674
On February 20 2013 05:27 Mocsta wrote:
Can understand the pain. Hurts when u think one of your own has been actively hindering your thought processes all game. :;


I'm not angry over your play at all, just how terrible the town was this game.

You played well, but it was like watching a guy in a brand new VW Jetta race against 8 Fiat Maluchs, 5 of which have quadriplegic drivers and no engine.

I would have loved to try to vote Mocsta D3 (since I had been pursuing him the whole game) but then Mocsta could have lead Cora into a mislynch on me. I actually put effort into hunting Mocsta (etc), but I got literally zero interest from any player except TestSubject, who was then night killed.

e: although it was a terrible mistake on my part to trust mocsta at all on d3 (specifically his reasoning around sylencia).
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
February 19 2013 21:36 GMT
#1675
Making only a Couple posts per day will get you shot N1 guys keep that in mind as you traverse into normal games. The OP represents a minimum of activity to not be mod killed but be aware that town will kill you on the hosts behalf especially when there are no clear suspects D1. Be active and active be.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 19 2013 21:45 GMT
#1676
FYI warbaby it became essentially impossible to take anything you said seriously after your opening this game. I didn't have any kind of strong scum read on you, but it was so hard to credit you as a helpful member of town after that. If something got going on mocsta I would have probably been willing to vote him as well but I sure as heck wasn't gonna start that garbage. There were easier lynches to pursue (Sev/Syl/Mand) that I felt had a higher chance of flipping scum. I'll admit that the fact that cora was so convinced you were scummy definitely clouded my view on you.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
February 19 2013 21:47 GMT
#1677
Which of my posts offended you so much on D1?

I admit I got frustrated after it looked like Mocsta might push a D1 mislynch on me, but if he hadn't been so successful with that I don't see what else I did to make you feel that way.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 21:50:18
February 19 2013 21:49 GMT
#1678
The crappy soft-blue claim (we covered this), the references to last game, the general "i'm a victim" attitude, it really just sounded awful. It was the farthest thing from contributing to town. Like, legitimately every post you made sounds like scum trying very clumsily to establish town cred without having to scumhunt or whatever.

At least, for the first 12 hours or so. I'm too lazy to see how long it lasted, but you definitely did clean it up before the end of day 1.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
February 19 2013 22:43 GMT
#1679
Ah well was a fun game to obs.
Had cora as sure scum, like most people in the QT.
Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right. - Henry Ford
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 19 2013 22:52 GMT
#1680
Mocsta, well played. I think you really aimed Cora pretty well. I think the major thing that killing me N1 did was allow you to control the town directive without appearing in charge. I think you had a number of really good posts. It's just hard to read anyone when so many people lurk so hard.
Prev 1 82 83 84 85 86 92 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 36m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko300
RotterdaM 236
SC2Nice 47
MindelVK 30
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 38319
Rain 3782
Sea 2373
Shuttle 1796
actioN 845
ZerO 628
Stork 597
Light 449
EffOrt 426
Snow 409
[ Show more ]
Soma 368
firebathero 356
ggaemo 286
Hyuk 281
hero 219
Last 209
Mini 204
Leta 115
ToSsGirL 113
Hyun 109
Sharp 108
Aegong 95
Barracks 92
Pusan 90
JYJ 48
Sea.KH 48
910 45
ajuk12(nOOB) 41
sorry 33
Nal_rA 33
Movie 32
soO 25
HiyA 16
Mong 15
Noble 13
scan(afreeca) 12
zelot 12
Terrorterran 9
Sacsri 6
Icarus 5
Dota 2
XcaliburYe684
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2434
x6flipin889
allub218
Other Games
Gorgc2258
singsing2032
B2W.Neo1987
Pyrionflax635
Fuzer 300
JimRising 269
hiko201
Sick200
Hui .17
ZerO(Twitch)14
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick31073
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos5210
Upcoming Events
OSC
36m
Classic vs Krystianer
Solar vs TBD
ShoWTimE vs TBD
MaxPax vs TBD
MaNa vs MilkiCow
GgMaChine vs Mixu
SOOP
1d 14h
SHIN vs GuMiho
Cure vs Creator
The PondCast
1d 20h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
IPSL
3 days
DragOn vs Sziky
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-06
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
OSC Championship Season 13
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.