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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On February 13 2013 10:07 cDgCorazon wrote: Hey guess what, we didn't "lynch a loud voce" and he flipped town... Uh...glurio was plenty loud right at the end with his ass on the line. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On February 13 2013 10:07 warbaby wrote: I never said I thought he was town, I said I didn't think he was scum. My read wasn't any better than null, in the post I linked earlier. You insinuating I called him town is putting WIFOM into my mouth, which is not what I said. One of the people that lynched glurio is scum. I refuse to believe 3 towns lynched him. We need to focus on: Sevryn Mocsta cdgCorazon And perhaps we can find a scum. It's fine if you guys still want to make cases on me, but I didn't just lynch a townie. Sevryn seems the most questionable. He really needs to post a lot more to show he's not a lurky scum. True, i just read the post again; sorry for the misrepresentation. That you stood up for me, made me think you thought he was town. Not sure why you would step in to defend a "null' read; even now with hindsight, thats an odd move to make. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 13 2013 10:09 WaveofShadow wrote: Uh...glurio was plenty loud right at the end with his ass on the line. But overall he was quiet. His filter is about a page and a half. Not a lot over 48 hours, especially with at least a third of it 30 minutes before lynch. | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
On February 13 2013 10:09 Mocsta wrote: True, i just read the post again; sorry for the misrepresentation. That you stood up for me, made me think you thought he was town. Not sure why you would step in to defend a "null' read; even now with hindsight, thats an odd move to make. Because why would I lynch, or agree to the lynch of, someone I have a null read on, when there are lurkers like sylencia (at the time) and sevryn still in the game? I tried to debunk the wack "glurio is a blendy scum like last game" wagon, and failed. It's not that I thought he was town, it was that I thought he was going to be lynched for incorrect reasons, compared to the other candidates. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 13 2013 10:14 warbaby wrote: Because why would I lynch, or agree to the lynch of, someone I have a null read on, when there are lurkers like sylencia (at the time) and sevryn still in the game? Because Glurio and Syl were/are playing the same type of game (lurking) in my eyes, and apparently others agreed (by looking at the votes). | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On February 13 2013 10:14 warbaby wrote: Because why would I lynch, or agree to the lynch of, someone I have a null read on, when there are lurkers like sylencia (at the time) and sevryn still in the game? I tried to debunk the wack "glurio is a blendy scum like last game" wagon, and failed. It's not that I thought he was town, it was that I thought he was going to be lynched for incorrect reasons, compared to the other candidates. Right, so if I read right; it wasnt that you was sticking up for Glurio, it was that you wanted your wagon to take off (i.e Sylencia/Sevryn) If so, I can accept that. if you were sticking up for Glurio because he was null; thats really an odd thing to do (even with your explanation) | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On February 13 2013 10:07 warbaby wrote: One of the people that lynched glurio is scum. I refuse to believe 3 towns lynched him. We need to focus on: Sevryn Mocsta cdgCorazon And perhaps we can find a scum. It's fine if you guys still want to make cases on me, but I didn't just lynch a townie. Sorry but this is terrible reasoning. It's fine to try and hold people responsible for their vote; however, it equally could be said that people, like myself, who refused to move are responsible for allowing town to be lynched. Mislynches happen and are acceptable. Even if we agree that (exactly) one person on glurio is scum, the case you're proposing as of yet doesn't hold water. On February 13 2013 10:07 cDgCorazon wrote: Hey guess what, we didn't "lynch a loud voce" and he flipped town... And...? Mislynches happen. There is nothing unacceptable about a D1 mislynch. The best course of action is to go back and get to rereading and reanalyzing in anticipation of D2. | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
On February 13 2013 10:18 Mocsta wrote: Right, so if I read right; it wasnt that you was sticking up for Glurio, it was that you wanted your wagon to take off (i.e Sylencia/Sevryn) If so, I can accept that. if you were sticking up for Glurio because he was null; thats really an odd thing to do (even with your explanation) I would have been happy with a wagon on sylencia or sevryn, or possibly zarepath and mandalor. I thought they were all potentially lurking harder/playing outside their normal town meta, moreso than glurio. Sorry bud, you're the one on the wagon that just lynched a town, not me. I don't need to explain my D1 votes any more (I explained them when I made them, so just check my filter). You need to explain your vote. You just lynched an active town player because you thought he was playing lurky scum like last game, no? But how can he be lurkier than players with 50% less posts? | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
Let's see what sevryn has to say. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
I've played a bunch of games of Mafia, and I still have yet to get a scum D1. I was hoping that the town would be up for doing something different, but I guess old habits never die. I'm not too happy I had to choose between two people who were basically playing the same game and not getting the support I needed behind my vote for my top scum read. Oh well, always D2 I guess. I'll be back well before the end of N1, and plan to post a will and all of that fun stuff. Cheers. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18162 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On February 13 2013 10:24 Acrofales wrote: ObviousOne is replacing Macheji. Well you're lucky then ObviousOne, if it were up to me you'd already be dead.  | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
@Warbaby: If I was scum I'd be happy to laugh at retarded town who can't summon more than a 3-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 vote. There is no reason for any of them to be on glurio unless they either a) felt the need to save sevryn (aka sevryn is scum, kinda lines up with his vote) or b) they were afraid of people blaming them for throwing away their vote like what I just did to WoS. Dunno. That doesn't convince me that any of those 3 *must* be scum. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On February 13 2013 10:21 warbaby wrote: I would have been happy with a wagon on sylencia or sevryn, or possibly zarepath and mandalor. I thought they were all potentially lurking harder/playing outside their normal town meta, moreso than glurio. Sorry bud, you're the one on the wagon that just lynched a town, not me. I don't need to explain my D1 votes any more (I explained them when I made them, so just check my filter). You need to explain your vote. You just lynched an active town player because you thought he was playing lurky scum like last game, no? But how can he be lurkier than players with 50% less posts? warbaby, I think you need to get your facts straight before you start shooting your gun #1 I actually pressured Glurio. Ohh btw I even pressured your "apparent top" scum read Sylencia #2 My reasoning for Glurio were sound enough for you to even suggested you agreed I dont even understand your comment in bold; are you talking about past games, because it is referenced as if you are discussing Glurio. My point stands; you were the only person that contested my reasoning; but then state you thought he was "null" FACT: Nobody sticks up for nulls reads without a hidden agenda. (e.g. promote your bandwagon or scum creating confusion) Null reads are the ones you watch the most carefully, to see how they react to pressure. Your post above, indicates you were not fussed about a wagon on a variety of people. Hence, there is absolutely NO REASON to contest the lynch if Glurio was "null" the way you did. Your Day1 behaviour from start to finish have been suspect as. If I make an clear assumption you are scum: Its easy to see you tried to derail Glurio back to Sylencia, because you thought sylencia may have been more 'valuable' to town. Obviously this relies on a flip, so I wont jump to conclusions; but fuck me your actions are fishy warbaby. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On February 13 2013 10:30 Sn0_Man wrote: This entire vote was so retarded. WoS: The fact that you literally threw away your vote with no regard for who got lynched makes me want to call you scum. UNFORTUNATELY, like 6 other people did the same thing (no I didn't count how many). @Warbaby: If I was scum I'd be happy to laugh at retarded town who can't summon more than a 3-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 vote. There is no reason for any of them to be on glurio unless they either a) felt the need to save sevryn (aka sevryn is scum, kinda lines up with his vote) or b) they were afraid of people blaming them for throwing away their vote like what I just did to WoS. Dunno. That doesn't convince me that any of those 3 *must* be scum. Sn0 I am finding warbaby trying to fit in with town just not working for me. I am more than happy for him to pursue this lead and pressure me (and the others). I think it will lead to his undoing, and then hopefully you guys will see what I see. I think debating on who scum voted for and why is just too much WIFOM, save it for after a flip is my opinion. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On February 13 2013 10:30 Sn0_Man wrote: This entire vote was so retarded. WoS: The fact that you literally threw away your vote with no regard for who got lynched makes me want to call you scum. UNFORTUNATELY, like 6 other people did the same thing (no I didn't count how many). And the fact that I put up a post of the vote change after the fact is scummy, the vote change itself last second would've been scummy, and flip-flopping posts all day as soon as people pointed out to me that 0-post lynch is dumb would've been scummy. Got news for me? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On February 13 2013 10:39 Mocsta wrote: Sn0 I am finding warbaby trying to fit in with town just not working for me. I am more than happy for him to pursue this lead and pressure me (and the others). I think it will lead to his undoing, and then hopefully you guys will see what I see. I think debating on who scum voted for and why is just too much WIFOM, save it for after a flip is my opinion. But you know what, sometimes it's necessary. We just flipped, let's talk about it Mocsta, and those who lynched our poor Glurio. I honestly wish I were better at this game because I can't pick out scumroles/scumteam. I could very easily see you and geript going at it and picking up opposite roles along with a lurker....ugh. After my second midterm tomorrow and N1 I'll have more time to put into this and I'll try to come up with something. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
That said, after saying hello here I need to sod off for a few hours. I'm about to run a raid so I'll be back in a bit to start my deep read. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On February 13 2013 10:44 WaveofShadow wrote: But you know what, sometimes it's necessary. We just flipped, let's talk about it Mocsta, and those who lynched our poor Glurio. I honestly wish I were better at this game because I can't pick out scumroles/scumteam. I could very easily see you and geript going at it and picking up opposite roles along with a lurker....ugh. After my second midterm tomorrow and N1 I'll have more time to put into this and I'll try to come up with something. If you want to enter discourse by asking me something; I will oblige, but do not expect me to initiate those type of topics without a flip. The reason i think it is pointless is because, you go "Assume Mocsta is scum" He did X, Y, Z Now, lets say the bandwagon builds up and you get my flip and realise its a mislynch; then what? You have wasted an entire cycle because of an "association" If you think me n Geript is faked; do you think I would have held my vote on him for so long; and kept pushing him and explaining myself and trying to communicate my thought process? Now in my opinion: The correct process to follow now, is to re-read the thread and consider scum motives. I am about to do this myself, and will be looking for the following:
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On February 13 2013 10:47 ObviousOne wrote: Hey guys! I have been reading the thread on-and-off but nothing resembling deep analysis yet since I wasn't anticipating replacing in. Spur of the moment decision to hop in. I'm considering it a personal challenge to myself to be the most active player at least for the night phase so I can get a better read on you as questions pop up during my read, and you can get a better read on me and my scum-hunting abilities. That said, after saying hello here I need to sod off for a few hours. I'm about to run a raid so I'll be back in a bit to start my deep read. Hi being not involved in the thread, you might be the perfect guy for this. If you want to be active, can you please have a go at answering the below: On February 13 2013 10:55 Mocsta wrote: I am about to do this myself, and will be looking for the following:
Thank you. | ||
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