EPTWhat about the post I made has certain scum written on it?
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What about the post I made has certain scum written on it? | ||
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I don't even know how you can view what I was doing as "burying", which is nearly impossible to prove anyway | ||
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On February 15 2013 16:42 Mocsta wrote: consider this.. all your posts were short, aggressive, and in my opinion flaming emotion.; i did not think the content was beneficial either. I thought the above so strongly; I felt the need to repost a couple of my posts. I took it as burying with that context. Why would I care about burying posts where all you do in them is call me mafia with ZERO justification aside from blatant OMGUS. Even still, you claim to have come to this point on some basis that I was likely mafia before, so how did you reach that conclusion when yesterday you made a point of unvoting me? It makes no sense. | ||
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It's a laborious process that I used to do when I debated, and I don't enjoy it anymore. I want concise arguments that get to the real crux of the matter, because that's how I tend to post, and that's how I like to respond. Really, it's about HOW each of you reacted to the pressure I put on you that made me view you as town. You both took it very seriously that I was mafia for being so misleading in my accusations that I think it difficult to fake as mafia. | ||
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##Vote: Prplhz Sloosh probs right on this one. | ||
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On February 16 2013 14:32 jaybrundage wrote: Are you not even going to commentate on your bad case on Mocsta and suspicion on people for no damn reason. Regardless I prplhz does look bad. Not sure who i prefer him or phagga tho. What's the point? He's dead and I was wrong, so what? We had to lynch someone anyway. Might as well have been him. | ||
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So what does this mean? Day 4, the chances of mafia putting up CC, who was under a little heat the day before, as a nomination against two townie players in Sloosh and Mocsta is very low. Palmar had been lynched over those two. Palmar. The risk would have been too high. No, it's far more likely that CC is just someone they thought they wanted dead. That's exactly how they've been using the nominations so far; put up three people you want dead and let town argue over which one is the best to lynch. It fits with how I caught Snarfs, and the logic I posted on day 3. With that in mind, Jay is likely mafia. Prplhz is likely mafia. Either one of them dying is a good outcome today, in my opinion, but I feel more strongly about Prplhz than I do jay. The fact that he hasn't managed to post any meaningful analysis of anything in a very long time leads me to believe that he's lost interest in the game, which is a mafia tell, if I remember correctly. As a game goes on, mafia tend to care less about keeping up with the game and posting in it. The fact that he, on day 1, wasn't matching the scum meta he got caught with is no longer relevant to my read on him. I highly doubt that he is town. Jay is in a similar boat. While his activity hasn't declined, it hasn't ever been that high in the first place. His lack of original reads and general "go-with-the-flow" mentality is a difference from his town play, which is to come up with reads, right or wrong, and be convinced of them. He's blendy, and very non-confrontational. His pressure of me was very much a sheepish move to make, because it was en vogue at the time. Him being town is more likely than Prplhz, but still not very likely. By elimination, the third mafia is one of VE/Debears/Oats/Phagga. Phagga has been oddly absent today, but his play yesterday does not fit into my idea of mafia at all. He was quite town with his analysis of the nomination possibilities and their likelihoods. While this isn't a particularly difficult thing to make as mafia, it is still information that he decided to give to town, which is a point in his favor. However, his early game was truly atrocious. I'm having a difficult time getting a good read on him, but at the moment my gut tells me town. Debears so far looks fairly town. I think he's right about jay, which is a point in his favor. I think he's been aggressive with it, which is another point in his favor. It's hard to say with any certainty because from this role we have missed two of the four days worth of information, so I have less to run off of. Time may tell with him, but I would bet on town at this point. VE is... difficult. The fact that Snarfs chose him as his only read the whole game is kind of encouraging as to him being town, but the fact that he never pushed it, even when the VE wagon was a real thing, is odd. VE seems town at a glance, simply because he's been very level-headed and calm, but I know he is a good player and capable of playing pro-town as mafia. OVERALL, I think the chances of him being mafia are quite low, especially given how the lynch played out yesterday, so he's probably town. Oats is like, truly unreadable. He's done many insanely stupid things this game, but isn't that how town Oats plays? If all three of the above are town, as I think, he's probably mafia, simply by process of elimination. I posted my reasons for why I felt that way at the beginning of day 3 and not much has changed, to tell the truth. I'm reasonably convinced he's likely mafia. In straight up, town to scum list form: [b]Cheesecake Sloosh Debears VisceraEyes Phagga Oats Jay Prplhz | ||
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On February 17 2013 14:26 Oatsmaster wrote: Wonderful way to play mafia. explain how VE is town given the events of yesterday? He was the opposition wagon to a scum lynch, who the scum that was lynched wanted to lynch? If it was two mafia, I would be surprised. | ||
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On February 17 2013 14:28 jaybrundage wrote: Ok first off Palmar threw a little suspicion on you before he died. But no one else even commentated on you. Till my big case on you. If I recall correctly VE had 2-3 votes. With no one being on you till I made my case and start pushing you. So dont give me that go with the flow crap. Also the VE lynch I was all for it and when people pushed snarfs I was agaisnt it cause I had a (bad) town read on him due to a pre-association case. So regardless of the way the thread was going I wanted to lynch VE You openly sheeped Palmar in the case you made. You do not get to take any originality credit for it, not one bit. | ||
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On February 17 2013 14:30 Oatsmaster wrote: No flipped scum were on his wagon. There have been no scum flips since then. What's this about, Oats? Gotta push that mafia agenda? | ||
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On February 17 2013 14:36 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont see how you can say all the scum were on his wagon, therefore VE is town, when only one was on it that we know for sure I'm not saying VE is town because ALL the scum wanted to lynch him, I'm saying that he was the wagon that ran AGAINST the mafia wagon, which makes it unlikely that he is also mafia. I imply that mafia were on his wagon, and if my analysis was correct, TWO WERE, but I do not factor that in to the read process. | ||
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Yeah, no. I'm done with this conversation. You're not going to talk me out of a town read that you're not even trying to lynch. | ||
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Why would I answer questions from the player I am calling mafia about why I think he's mafia? Why does he want to know the answer? Because he wants to argue with me, to prove that he's not mafia, even though he's not up for the lynch and I'm not pushing for his lynch. Why would you want to talk me out of a town read of mine you don't even want to lynch, and indeed didn't want to lynch yesterday when the dust settled? Why do you want to argue against perfectly valid and accepted logic about his alignment as it relates to the lynch on day 3? Because you don't want town to figure the game out, and having people on the right track is bad. Oats, you're pushing a mafia agenda. If you don't think VE is town, make a fucking case. I'm not going to sit here and argue with you on the matter. Goodnight. | ||
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Also, will you lynch prplhz with me? I want answers to my points for and against prplhz and phagga from you tomorrow when I look at the thread. | ||
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I don't know how debears is more sure of jay than prplhz, but that's really splitting hairs at this point, because I think they're both mafia. | ||
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On February 18 2013 08:47 prplhz wrote: If any of you are going to bed before deadline, I'm town. If that's true, it's highly disappointing. What are your reads right now? | ||
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Who do you think is mafia? | ||
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Gonna read Shaggy tonight and give you guys my read. Last scum has to be between him and VE, so solidifying my read on him will be useful. | ||
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