EPTI've been filtering prplhz/Djo/Snarfs and I'll write something up a little later on.
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VisceraEyes
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I've been filtering prplhz/Djo/Snarfs and I'll write something up a little later on. | ||
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On February 10 2013 03:19 prplhz wrote: Can't you just not post if you don't have anything useful to say, or if you really want to, answer my question without the attitude? I answered it in the post you quoted. Assuming Palmar is town, he kept it from the thread in an attempt to keep information from scum until after they've acted. In this way if they felt so inclined to risk putting one of their own up, they're more likely to do so. If they feel out of control of the even day lynch (such as if it were RNG'd as Palmar's plan suggests) then they're less likely to put one of their own up. With this field of nominees I reject Palmar's plan...as I feel like all of the nominees are likely town at this point and want to get rid of the most useless one...whcihever one that ends up being. For the record, the sarcasm was meant to be humorous, not inflammatory. The logic is pretty straight-forward in my opinion, I thought if I phrased it that way it would seem obvious and incite laughter. Clearly I was mistaken. Good day sir. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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I think you share my sentiment regarding how to handle the lynch today - we seem to be speaking the same language. I have to ask though - slOosh has already gone to some pretty great lengths to explain his thought process today, while conversely Palmar has done almost no analysis to speak of and has instead only done as he's promised he would, reveal his D2 Plan of Excellence. Are you literally saying that your metric on this lynch is whether the nominee agrees with your scumreads? And if so, does that not open scum up to manipulate you on future nomination days? | ||
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Along with my (foolhearty) belief that he'd come in here and be of use at some point if town, and I wasn't interested in twisting everyone's arm into a Palmar lynch...especially when there are equally bad lurkers in the game who look even worse (JX). At that point I wasn't super convinced he was scum...it wasn't until he later on in the day when I was really conviced. You can't miss it in my post history. | ||
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On February 10 2013 06:16 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: sry phone posting.... both candidates agree with me. sloosh made a case on phagga. Itsno if he agrees, its if he can back it up well. This lynch for me is predicated on who is going to make the most sense. sloosh and palmar seem to have a similar reads as i do. If palmar isnt going to justify substantially, i dont want him around. sloosh has proven moreso that hes A). town and B) cares and will analyze posts and behavior. currently hes more beneficial to towb. depends on palmars next promised post. Yeah okay, I missed that part about phagga. Then yeah, we're both in agreement. I'm not sure I agree where phagga is concerned, but we'll deal with that tomorrow. Today I'd like more input from the lynch candidates and everyone's thoughts on who they want to lynch today. | ||
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On February 07 2013 22:32 prplhz wrote: Something rubs me the wrong way about jaybrundage and his case on Djodref. No one else really reacted strongly to Djodref's silly random vote because everybody knew what it was: some sort of scheme to draw out scum. Pretty rediculous but at least he doing something. jaybrundage also acknowledges this himself here but he still uses it as a reason to vote Djodref. This gives him a place to put his vote and even though he's since gradually recanted this (like here), he hasn't unvoted. It seems like he is trying to keep the Djodref door open while not pushing it and not wanting to actually push anything else. It doesn't seem like a townie thinking "fuck yea, i nailed this cracker and it's so obvious! now i just have to get everybody else to listen to me!", more like "cool, i can just put my vote on him and then chill". How do you guys feel about jaybrundage? This is prplhz' first post with content. I think this post clearly illustrates his scum mindset. My biggest problem with the post is the bolded statement. He already knows Djodref's alignment! Why can't Djodref be scum just putting junk in the thread? He calls it ridiculous himself, it's not going to help anyone find scum...he didn't even put himself in the damn lynch pool when determining the target! So why is it so clear to prplhz that Djodref's nonsense is "some sort of scheme to draw out scum"? On February 08 2013 00:54 prplhz wrote: I didn't want to talk a lot about JieXian because I wanted to see if he showed up on his own. He has posted around this time (actually a couple hours later) before in this game so I thought I'd not comment on him to see if he showed up again. If he didn't then I would be pretty sure that he was actually just not here which doesn't say much about his alignment. Of course this gamble doesn't work if I talk about it in the thread. Anyway, now that he's here he needs to start fending for himself since he apparently has four votes on him. This post is regarding JX on D1...the timeline should be clear by the content. The thing I don't like about this post is that in spite of it going to lengths to explain how he was trying to divine JX' alignment, it's clear to me from this post that he already did. Look at the last line (particularly the italicized bit). It's like he was trying to show disinterest in the lynch while keeping a door open to vote for him if he needed to. The lynch went the way scum wanted apparently because he can be found hard defending JX in the form of his laughable sheep onto Snarfs' "case" on me. On February 08 2013 03:16 prplhz wrote: I'm not sure. I want to lynch jaybrundage but no one else likes that lynch. I want to lynch Palmar but I see no reason to do it right now when we might as well just do it later. I actually like Snarfs case on VisceraEyes. On February 08 2013 08:28 prplhz wrote: You can't mention Snarfs case as reasonable for possibily lynching VisceraEyes when you have said (repeatedly) that it isn't a good case. I can do that, however, since I've always liked Snarfs case. I don't like the looks of VisceraEyes. I'll lynch him over JieXian. It's important to note here that prplhz has, up to this point, had ZERO strong scum reads. Even his jaybrundage read is ambiguous and unclear. This is all I can manage today. I had started describing my adventures through filterland after this, but I'm super pressed for time today and won't be back until after lynch. For todays lynch, it's clear (at least to me) that slOosh is trying to illustrate that he'll be here and active tomorrow. I'm not getting that feeling from Palmar at all - he still feels as distant from the game as he did at this point D1. However. Palmar is apparently reading prplhz the same way I am and slOosh wants me dead. Frankly I don't even get why, but the fact is that I think I'll have a shot at getting prplhz lynched tomorrow with Palmar around. Therefor I'm voting for slOosh. Sorry slOosh, stop reading me as scum when I'm town. Also your phagga read is bad because the main thrust of it is a meta analysis between a post from a different game mostly through D1 and a post in this game from the very beginning of D1. If you'd pull your head out of your ##Vote: slOosh | ||
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Prplhz is still my preference. slOosh can you tell me why you prefer my lynch to prplhz? Is it just because you think I'm scum? Because that's horrible if so. | ||
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##Vote Snarfs Because prplhz just wrote a case and I will read it before I moving forward. | ||
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I'm sorry I couldn't understand what you were asking earlier. I hope this clears that up. | ||
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slOosh is Mafia He keeps insisting that I'm not doing shit. He keeps insisting that I am not scumhunting. He conveniently leaves out the fact that I have not one, but TWO scum suspects whom I have made cases on and pushed for lynch at various points in the game...suspects that I continue to believe in today. Because I believed that the nominations would be all town, I wrote slOosh off as town as soon as the nominations were posted...in spite of red flags being raised when he was certain he would be put up for nomination. Now he's got this fail crusade against me. But he's accusing me of shit that he's just as, if not more, guilty of. He disappeared during D1 when the important shit was going down. And now he's in a unique position of being "soft-confirmed" town. What's he do with it? Continue to ignore everything his "scum suspect" says. If he really thinks I'm scum, why isn't he trying to catch me by making me explain my reads more thoroughly? Because in the name of consistency, he has to pretend they don't exist.. Otherwise he has no fucking case on me. I've been racking my brain trying to figure out a townie motivation for pretending my scumreads don't exist, and aside from "maybe he really thinks I'm town and is trying to infuriate me to confirm his read on me" I can't think of a single one...and that one doesn't make any fucking sense because if he's town and he's wasting all that time on trying to cement a TOWN read on me, he's doing something horribly horribly wrong...therefor, I conclude that he has to be scum. prplhz is Mafia Palmar knew it, I ignored it, now I gotta do something about it. prplhz did nothing over the course of D1 aside from ask Djodref about RNG, tell Mocsta and Oats to stop yelling at each other, and ask people over and over what they think about his "case" on jaybrundage. I put case in quotations there because his case is basically "he feels a little elusive and mild and *shrug*" but apparently that's enough for prplhz. What I find interesting about that is he claims he had no strong scum suspects D1...but apparently I haven't been doing shit all game right? Why wasn't I a suspect to prplhz? Oh that's right, at the end of D1 when the shit was uncertain surrounding the lynch, that is when all of a sudden prplhz would lynch VE over JX. Which begs the question: why didn't he raise me as a lynch candidate before then? If he was opposed to the JX lynch, why didn't he offer me up sooner than a couple hours before the lynch? prplhz is my strongest read by far and I prefer a prplhz lynch today. Snarfs is Mafia Snarfs has rubbed me the wrong way all game. His initial case on me was so bad that it got my attention, and the way he pushed it (or NOT pushed it more accurately) felt scummy all game long. He continues to do nothing, which kinda makes me a little queasy, but overall he's firmly in the red for me. If I can't get a prplhz lynch today, I would lynch Snarfs. ##Unvote ##Vote: prplhz | ||
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Also, this is a minor point, but something that pretty well seals my read of him: On February 08 2013 11:46 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Okay just got back from work... town flip eh... I should have went with my gut srsly. So who the heck are the lynch candidates? It's nightime, so that means we lynch one of the 3 targets scum chose beforehand? And Mocsta, Snarfs wasn't the only one who 'resisted' the JX lynch, prplhz did as well. I just remember his going like "zomg this guy is prolly town wtf r u doin' bruh" when I left. On February 08 2013 11:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Oh nvm there's a 24 hr dawn phase. It occurs to me that scum would have been discussing nominations ALL DURING D1. It just seems a little too crafty of Cheese to fake ignorance of the setup like this if he's scum. Regarding yamato, I'll filter him. I haven't read much on yamato to be honest. | ||
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I looked over Djodref's filter for fun, and I think he's town. There's not much there, as his activity has been pretty spotty even when he was posting, but he doesn't come across as like...diplomatic. When we were scummates in Looney Lynching, one of the things I noted about his play was that he did this thing where he acknowledged scummy behavior people pointed out as scummy...like "I can see why you think that's scummy" or "I understand why you think that" and shit. Diplomatic. I'm not really seeing anything like that in this game, though to be fair it's missing most hallmarks of his town play too. It becomes a question of whether I think his D1 play was scummy, and I have to say no. I said it before, but the thing where he left himself out of the pool of lynches in his RNG speaks volumes of his alignment. I feel like as scum he would either put himself in the pool or at least lie and say that he did. But he told the thread flat out that he left himself out of the pool. That just doesn't seem like a scum move to me. | ||
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Regarding the first part, it's a matter of what's most likely. I'm not saying that it's a town-tell for people to ask others opinions of themselves...but the frequency and consistency that Cheese exhibits that kind of behavior just doesn't seem likely to come from scum. And finally, and least importantly, prplhz now wants to lynch Cheese. Show me how Cheese is pushing any kind of scum agenda and we'll talk about scum Cheese...until then, I prefer to talk about someone I have a scumread on...or at the very least someone I don't have a townread on. | ||
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I'm gonna sleep on it. That IS scummier than I thought at first. :/ @Cheese I'd like a little clarity regarding your lynch preference. Would you rather lynch yamato or Snarfs? Why do you think he makes a better lynch? | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote Snarfs Oats I think Snarfs more likely today...but if that changes I SWEAR I'll be back. My vote is on prolhz in spirit. | ||
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