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On February 08 2013 01:46 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 01:41 yamato77 wrote:
Look at my list.
JX, Palmar, Snarfs, Phagga
Most of you want to lynch at least one of them, no?
Why not lynch JX first? I want reasons he is town before we consider anyone else today. @ yamatoJieXian started to post. You were scum with him in your last game so I must admit I'm tempted to trust you on this one. Do you have anything more relevant that the fact that he lurked hardcore until now ?
What is he doing with his posts right now? Defending himself. His read on Oats smells of total bullshit. Do you think Oats is mafia? I know JX is viewed as bad town, but come on. This is a weak attempt to get the lynch off him and the sad thing is that it's working.
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Definitely not lynching Palmar now.
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If you think JX might be mafia at all, you should not want to lynch Palmar with him. JX should die before we even think about killing Palmar on day 1. Yes, he's a good lynch. No, he's not better than JX.
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On February 08 2013 01:57 JieXian wrote:
Tell me what's wrong with my case on oats.
It's hardly random shit flinging when you have to refute it by saying "yeah man sometimes oats is obv scum"
I have nothing on snarf or Djo.
The problem is that you have a case on Oats but a vote on Palmar right when other people express interest in him.
You scum, bro.
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Kill JX.
Case on Oats is total bullshit.
CC don't succumb to confirmation bias.
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On February 08 2013 03:49 Mocsta wrote:
Funny how JX has gone quiet once I put him back in the limelight...
Yamato I have a random question for you.
If everyone bar two guys wanted to vote Oats
and the two guys wanted to vote JX
Do you think the two guys would get ignored?
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+ Im going to bed its 2.50am here
+ I believe JX leads the vote count, lets keep it that way
I don't think that is the case here but we'll see. JX probably going to die today once CC and company stop listening to the scum they wanted to lynch earlier.
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On February 08 2013 04:05 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 03:46 Mocsta wrote:@prplhzI know your reading this. I would appreciate if we can converse again please. In regards to JX On February 08 2013 00:54 prplhz wrote:
I didn't want to talk a lot about JieXian because I wanted to see if he showed up on his own. He has posted around this time (actually a couple hours later) before in this game so I thought I'd not comment on him to see if he showed up again. If he didn't then I would be pretty sure that he was actually just not here which doesn't say much about his alignment. Of course this gamble doesn't work if I talk about it in the thread. Anyway, now that he's here he needs to start fending for himself since he apparently has four votes on him. On February 08 2013 01:14 prplhz wrote:
Will people please comment on jaybrundage. JieXian sucks and he'll need to do something about that but in the meantime I want some feedback on jaybrundage. I am not sure what JX sucks means. What I do know is that you are focused on jaybrundage. What is odd is that. after several pages (including JX being active) we get this: On February 08 2013 03:31 prplhz wrote:On February 08 2013 03:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Who do you actually want to lynch prp? So far NO strong scum reads.
You need to vote, where is it gonna be? No, I don't have any strong scum reads and that's annoying because there are a lot of scum so some of them should be obvious already now (hopefully). I don't know who I will vote, I have a list of people I don't want to vote but that doesn't help me much. I want to lynch jaybrundage as I have already said a bunch of times but that's not a strong scum read (just the best I have) and it's not actually a lot that nobody else likes it. You said originally you were holding off commenting on JX because he wasnt present. Well now he is, I would like you to expound on his alignment and why? I don't really think that JieXian is scum. His first post was crazy accusations against you for a singular reason (some self contradiction or whatever) and I don't think that's scummy. It also looked very spontaneous (you'll notice that he totally forgot his vote) which looks like he didn't reread or overthink what he was posting which is something I think is more of a townie tell than scum. Then he disappeared for a day and I believe he was actually just not here, not much to say about that. I don't think he's looked scum after he returned either. What I mean by "he sucks" is that he's spamming and being a nuissance but that doesn't mean that he's scum at all (case in point: you), to the contrary. He looks like he's posting what's on his mind right now and that immediate feeling to his posting is something I think is pretty townie. He's also mainly gone for Oatsmaster since he came back and that's a bit weird for a scum who's the alternative lynch I would think, he's likely going to get lynched over Oatsmaster because a bunch of people already said that Oatsmaster is not someone we want to lynch today so why isn't he going for an "easier" target in JieXian or Palmar? (I know he was on Palmar for a short while but read his filter and you can easily see that he actually really wants to lynch Oatsmaster) I still want to lynch jaybrundage.
I know you were talking to Mocsta but I feel that he and I are on the same page on this thing right now so let me spell it out for you.
This is how scum JX plays. It's low-content, spammy posts that serve nothing else than to get people to think he's playing his town meta, which is similar to what you describe. It worked on Djo for a while last game in Normal IV, and appears to be working this game to come extent, but it's still scum JX. He is not like this as town. While he isn't the most active, he certainly doesn't give a fuck about how other people think of him, which is not the impression I get from him this game.
The damning thing is, look what he did with no pressure on him. Fuck all. A shit case and vote on Mocsta when he was under suspicion anyway. Now that the lynch is on his back he's suddenly active and shit, defending himself. Yes, this is confirming my own bias. No, I don't think he's town. I want to know his flip more than anything now that there's been a ton of discussion around it.
Just read his filters from LIX, where he was town, and Normal IV where he was mafia with me, and see for yourself which JieXian we're witnesses to here.
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If you remain unconvinced, look at JX's filter and see who he's talked about the most since he's come back. It's Oats, right?
But who does he have his vote on? Palmar. Why? Because he thought it could save his ass.
What you think of Palmar doesn't even really matter, because this is scum behavior. Had he mentioned Palmar before that point? Not significantly.
What this means about Palmar's alignment this game we can talk about after the flip, but for now we're lynching JX. It's around six or so hours until the deadline, so if you aren't going to vote him you should have a damn good reason not to.
Prplhz, you specifically I want to respond to my town case on Jay. Look into his meta. If he's actually mafia we can take a look at him another day.
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If someone other than JX gets lynched today I will afk.
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Seems like JX is actually going to die. Good stuff.
I agree with the worry of Sloosh. I was confident in him being town before but not anymore. He's null to me.
Djo is pretty similar. At one point I thought he was town but his contribution is superficial.
Regardless of the JX flip I think Palmar is claiming mafia to us with that last post about the lynch.
See you guys a few hours after the flip.
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Let's wait and talk about reads after we see the day post. I don't want mafia getting any ideas about who is good to nominate.
In the mean time, I like Mocsta's train of thought about the lynch. Who seemed to not care? Reread and we'll talk about it on day 2.
Peace.
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Yes but we're not lyching our reads tomorrow, we're lynching who mafia pick. Giving out reads right now lets them play WIFOM games with who they picked and why. Better to let them make a tougher, less informed decision about the nominations than to give them ideas.
Tomorrow night we can begin scum hunting like normal, but tonight we need to consider the setup more closely and try to prepare ourselves to properly analyze the mafia picks tomorrow.
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Seems Sloosh agrees with me, good stuff.
Let's all afk until the day post and leave mafia to ruminate in silence.
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Discussion about reads actually hurts town right now, don't you understand that?
If you're just dying to know what I think, sit on this:
Why are you so concerned with what I'm doing with my reads when you don't have any to talk about?
There's plenty of information on the table to make some decent reads right now. The fact that you have none, not even a town read, is disturbing.
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On February 08 2013 16:01 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2013 15:57 yamato77 wrote:
Discussion about reads actually hurts town right now, don't you understand that?
If you're just dying to know what I think, sit on this:
Why are you so concerned with what I'm doing with my reads when you don't have any to talk about?
There's plenty of information on the table to make some decent reads right now. The fact that you have none, not even a town read, is disturbing. I don't see discussion hurting town like ever in mafia. And i wasn't specifically calling you out I was saying the town in general. Unless Palmar disagree's with me I stick to my opinion.
Why do you care at all about what Palmar has to say when he's done nothing this game?
Discussion about reads hurts town right now. If you can't understand that, I don't even know what to say.
If you want to talk about your itchy balls, go ahead, but telling people to give mafia ideas about who to pick is insane.
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On February 08 2013 16:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi I'm drunks! We don't tslk about townreads at night in rrgulr games because scum just shoot them. In this one we don't know how they nominate or why. If we talk about scumreads maybe they put them up because they know they town. Or put up who everyonethinks is town. It only benifits scum. No one gonna die so no harm in waiting.
Precisely.
Thank you, drunk VE.
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On February 08 2013 16:47 VisceraEyes wrote:Why does everyone think I'm scum all the time when I'm really not? It makes me mad AND sad. I supposed to be good at this game...or so people say. Why am I good if I just get lynched every game? 
I shot you last game!
Don't worry, you're only going to die this game if you're mafia.
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Mocsta/Oats, do you guys really think talking about scumreads is a good idea?
Why?
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You guys are being dumb.
I will not partake.
/afk
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I've been saying this all night.
We have around five and a half hours until the day post, there's no reason to make any assumptions about how the nominations will play out until we see them and some flips.
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