EPTYou were referring to the "SUPER SECRET" plan we concocted pregame then...the *winkwink* HYPER MODE SCUMHUNTING *nudgenudge* plan. I get ya.
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You were referring to the "SUPER SECRET" plan we concocted pregame then...the *winkwink* HYPER MODE SCUMHUNTING *nudgenudge* plan. I get ya. | ||
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Regarding the setup: All we ever have to go on, in any game, is what we control - being the lynch. There are no night kills for us to analyze, but the nomination phase gives us information in a similar fashion - everyone scum chooses during the nomination phase was chosen to further the scum agenda. Whether it's to get them lynched or to make town feel a certain way about those who don't get lynched. So all we can do is lynch the scummiest player today. Tomorrow we'll decide who to lynch after scum decide who to nominate. We decide who to lynch today first and decide what to do tomorrow tomorrow. Something I'd like to stress however is that it's going to be very important in this setup to LYNCH LURKERS WITH AN UNHOLY FURY. We have no vigs to hope to clear them out, so it's every townie's DUTY to make sure they're not lynchbait by lurking like a fuck. I don't care how busy you think you are. It doesn't take long to contribute meaningfully. I will lynch you if you lurk. Be warned. @Snarfs I know it seems like I'm omnipresent sometimes, but I'm still human bro. I still have NEEDS. I don't LIVE at work bra, I need to go HOME sometimes too. You know...the place where you hang your hat? What you apparently perceive as dastardly disappearance is nothing more than unlucky timing. We were all joking around when I left, I thought they were cool to play alone together. :/ We're lacking WAY too many people to start throwing fingers around now. If you have some sort of valid reason for thinking I'm scum then cool, whatever let's hear it. If you're really just pissed about me not stopping Mocsta/Oats from "shitting up the thread" as you say, how about you take it up with them instead? I'm not responsible for their posts. | ||
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On February 06 2013 15:02 Oatsmaster wrote: Something I'd like to stress however is that it's going to be very important in this setup to LYNCH LURKERS WITH AN UNHOLY FURY. We have no vigs to hope to clear them out, so it's every townie's DUTY to make sure they're not lynchbait by lurking like a fuck. I don't care how busy you think you are. It doesn't take long to contribute meaningfully. I will lynch you if you lurk. Be warned. You know, the last person I saw that was so adamant about lynching lurkers was scum. I wonder what that makes you :| Was that person scum in a game that has no nightkills and only lynches and no vigs Oats? | ||
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In this setup we're uniquely NOT able to clear out lurkers from the lynch pool (because there are no blues). Therefor we can ONLY lynch them to divine their alignment. | ||
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That goes for everyone, but I singled out Mocsta because I think his posts ARE insightful - I just want to wait on that particular discussion. | ||
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At any rate, I'm not trying to bury anything, or I wouldn't even be engaging you in this conversation. I'm just trying to understand your motives and give reasoning for my stance. | ||
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We're all three of us (you me and Oats) saying the same thing...that everyone needs to contribute. I think the breakdown is that we all seem to have different motives when we actually don't. Oats = Shut up and scumhunt Moc = Improve town atmosphere VE = Kill the lurker. I submit that in the name of moving the game forward, we all recognize that those three conclusions are all means to the same end: finding and eliminating scum. In this way, we can all focus on what matters: the posts of those who haven't contributed yet. What do you say guys? Truce? | ||
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Jeez I guess that wasn't much of a scumtell after all, huh guy?  | ||
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I want to kill Palmar for being a useless...thing...that is useless... | ||
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##Vote: Palmar | ||
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One thing I didn't like about yamato's case on Mocsta doesn't even have to do with the content of the case...it's the lack of a vote attached to it. It's like he's feeling out the lynch before committing. Yamato accuses Mocsta of "fabricating" his read on Oats, but most of what he's accusing Mocsta of is not even alignment indicative. Honestly, I don't even know what "fabricating" a read means. On the whole, I don't like what I've seen from yamato so far. It's reminiscent of his attack on me in the last game we played. Lemme go take a look at phagga. I noticed that he was your top read only a few posts ago, now he's "to a lesser degree". Should I assume you're disliking yamato more now? | ||
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You know yamato for someone who's so against talking about townreads, you seem to be keen on asking people for theirs in the form of seeking arguments against your case. Are you aware of that? | ||
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On February 07 2013 06:08 Snarfs wrote: Just to let Cheese and everyone else know, I am here and reading along with the thread. I have class for another hour and then I'm heading home so I will be able to respond and properly formulate my thoughts then. As a preview though, I'm still getting a bad vibe from VE. It's a feeling right now but I wouldn't mind more people looking at him closely and just really asking if he's trying to find scum. Why don't you look at me closely and ask yourself if I'm trying to find scum. For me being your opening vote, I'm growing a little impatient with you pussy-footing around a case. | ||
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First of all, something I noticed last night. On February 06 2013 14:25 Snarfs wrote: Hmm, disappear while two other players start shitting up the thread? Congrats VE, you're already #1 on my list. ##vote VisceraEyes As far as the voting mechanics go, it really is a ton of WIFOm. You're both saying the same thing in different ways. Yes, we lynch scum and we need to not look scummy. Yes, scum is going to try to trick us into debating ad infinitum about the composition of their nominations. That pretty much ends the discussion, doesn't it? Look very closely at everything the nominees say and lynch the scum. No need to over complicate it. If it comes down to multiple people contributing well to town, we can discuss it then. Here we see Snarfs' first vote on me. He's convinced of my alignment based on the fact that I left the thread "when two other players start shitting up the thread". But...why? Why is that indicative of me being scum? The only way that makes sense is if he is assuming that Oats and Mocsta are both town...and this is a conclusion he couldn't have already come to at this point in the game. This alone isn't really enough for me to call him scum, but then we see how he pushes me after this: On February 07 2013 06:08 Snarfs wrote: Just to let Cheese and everyone else know, I am here and reading along with the thread. I have class for another hour and then I'm heading home so I will be able to respond and properly formulate my thoughts then. As a preview though, I'm still getting a bad vibe from VE. It's a feeling right now but I wouldn't mind more people looking at him closely and just really asking if he's trying to find scum. On February 07 2013 08:44 Snarfs wrote: All right, so here are my thoughts: 1) On VE: My vote on VE was initially because of exactly what I said - of the three people that came into the conversation, he was the quickest to abandon it when things got heated. Now, he claims that he was commuting and I can't exactly dispute that. But since then, I've had no reason to move my vote off of him. Look at the way he's saying things. Who is he even pressuring? Read through his filter and try to figure out who he's pushing. Palmar!? We're not lynching Palmar day 1, why waste time? As for the other people VE is "pressuring", there's no vindication. Phagga? Nope. yamato? Maybe, I can't really tell. When VE is town, he pushes people. He pushes them hard to determine their alignment and it's obvious he's pushing people. I think this is scum VE. **snip** Anything new in there? Just a weak-ass meta read based on 24 hours of D1. But he asked for others' opinions TWICE in those two posts. We have players who haven't said fuck all. He's saying we can't lynch Palmar today...why? Why the fuck not? He's not doing shit. But he wants to lynch me? Based on what? A weak ass meta read and an absence I've explained? It's cognitive dissonance. Why would he be against lynching Palmar D1 and not against lynching VE D1 for the same reason? I mean, okay if he thinks Palmar is better for town than me assuming we're both town, that's one thing...but he doesn't say as much. He simply shuts down the Palmar lynch for no reason...when no one is even voting for Palmar but me. Now I'm at a crossroads. I want to kill Palmar with the holy fire of righeousness. But I also want Snarfs to hang. I want others' opinions of this, because at this point I could go either way. Kill the scummy lurker who doesn't give a shit, or kill the scummy active participant? Right now I'm leaning lynching Palmar, but if there's more support for a Snarfs lynch I'm all over that shit. | ||
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