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On February 22 2013 03:53 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 03:50 yamato77 wrote:
If he honestly believed Snarfs was mafia and wanted to convince town, he could have done so instead of voting JX day 1 like all of town wanted. He did not take any strong stances at all. That is not "pushing your reads".
Snarfs, similarly, didn't exactly make a concerted effort to get VE lynched, ever. When he was getting lynched day 3, did he even come into the thread and argue for VE's lynch? Why not? Wouldn't mafia benefit from lynching town VE in that situation? It could have happened, but it didn't.
It's not enough to say that the double bus is good evidence, because it's not. It was weak on the part of VE, and Snarfs didn't even try to get VE lynched over himself. I've been over this. There's no reason not to lynch him. You make it sound as though you should only push 1 person all of day 1. And that is completely wrong. If you have a scumread, and no one will lynch them, then you keep looking for scum and save the case for another day. Snarfs lynch had no momentum at all day 1. When someone has a third of their filter about someone being scum, then that is a concentrated effort READ THIS http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=395690&user=121695
My case shows explicitly what VE's mindset was around the lynch, and that's not refutable. He was not pushing his own agenda with his vote, he was sheeping town. Don't make it into something it's not.
Snarfs cannot have ever been a threat to VE because he held zero influence on the thread from day 1. He never pushed ANY agenda actively, because he lurked too much and didn't interact with town. Maybe that's hard for you to see since you replaced in, but I know. So stop arguing with me about this and fucking sheep me. I'm right.
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On February 22 2013 03:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Your confirmation bias is causing you to try and refute facts with opinions yamato. Are you aware of this?
I took the very strong stance that I thought Snarfs was scum. This is evident in my filter. I also took the strong stance that I thought Palmar was scum. This is also in my filter. I also took the strong stance that Mocsta was scum. This is in my filter. The fact that you don't think I was "pushing my reads" is horseshit because I very clearly explained why I thought all of Snarfs, Palmar and Mocsta were scum. While it's true that I wasn't in here bashing you guys over the head trying to get you to vote with me, that doesn't change the fact that these are all stances I took that you're claiming I didn't take.
Then why did you vote JX over the both of them day 1? Why didn't you do more to get one of Snarfs/Palmar lynched?
It's just bullshit. I don't have confirmation bias, you're just mafia. I laid it out plain and simple. Plus you lied about it.
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On February 22 2013 04:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because Palmar showed up and tried to DERAIL THE JX LYNCH! I thought that meant that JX was his scumbuddy and I was willing to consolidate on JX based on his inactivity ANYWAY.
Yes, you do have confirmation bias. All of the points you're saying are "irrefutable" have been refuted - you're just flailing around now going "Just sheep me town I'm right" without even CONSIDERING that you might be wrong. WHICH YOU FUCKING ARE.
That's a pathetic excuse. You are not that fucking bad at this game as town, VE.
I'm not wrong. Nothing I'm doing right now is flailing around because no one has taken me head on with the points I raise in my full case. You're arguing part of it, an important part, but it's obvious from this response that you're just full of shit.
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On February 22 2013 04:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
I fucking tried to get Snarfs lynched. I made a case that ALL OF YOU SLOOSH AND PALMAR IGNORED. You fucking IGNORED MY CASE ON SCUM Yamato. Yet I'M the one who HAS TO BE scum right?
Seriously, I'm done trying to convince you. I'll just convince someone else to vote with me and you'll either have to consolidate or fucking LOSE Yamato. Tired of this.
Yes, get angry.
If you die you'll probably lose, and if you don't you probably win, so here we are.
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On February 22 2013 04:08 debears wrote:
Yamato you didn't read my case at all.
Why are you refusing to read and refute my jay case with specific evidence?
Why are you refusing to look at the context of day 1?
Because you can't even argue that VE is town well enough to convince me.
Stop trying to derail. VE is the mafia here, and after he's dead, you're a sitting duck so you have to be invested in his defense. Nothing more, nothing less.
Paint me as confirmation biased, whatever, but you're not going to get me to move my vote and I have phagga, jay, and Oats with me. That's enough to win.
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You guys can't even discredit me by calling me mafia, either, so you're doubly fucked in this one because confirmed town Sloosh wanted VE dead too.
Just concede. I know the scum team and you can't kill me. After today, town will all sheep me to victory anyway.
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On February 22 2013 04:13 debears wrote:
Yeah because people who don't show up at lylo and try to figure out the game are so obviously town.
Why are you and me the only ones talking here?
Why did those 3 immediately settle on ve without cases and then not contributr st all?
Wake up
If one of them is mafia, as you say, then they're bussing their teammate at lylo.
Somehow I find that unlikely.
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On February 22 2013 04:27 debears wrote:
I love it when peoplr don't make cases, don't refute cases, and then just automatically assume they are right.
Yamato you can't deny what's right there in my cases, that's why you wont refute them
This loss is on you and cc
I did make a gigantic fucking case about VE.
I will not listen to anything else today.
You cannot discredit me or WIFOM anything about what VE's done because I'm right, and the townies following me know I'm right.
I know the mafia team, and you guys are showing your true colors today, just as I expected. But more in that later, if you don't just concede.
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Jay with the assist.
Good stuff.
Also, I predicted you calling me scum, haha. Have to discredit me somehow.
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Astute observation.
But you're the one who dies today.
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If I'm mafia, make a case.
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On February 22 2013 08:03 jaybrundage wrote:
hm Yamato. So who do you take out of the VE, Phagga, Debears scum team. Phagga im presuming? or Debears.
Why the change of Stance on CC? What brought this around
We'll talk about it tomorrow. Today we lynch VE
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If you think debears is mafia, you should think VE is a lot more certain than 50/50
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CC put your money where your mouth is and lynch one of debears/VE.
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If everyone thinks VE is mafia, why are there votes on other people?
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Oats, kill VE with me today and tomorrow I will hand you the two mafia scumbuddies on a silver platter.
Hint: It's not jay or Phagga.
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The thing is, I'm fairly certain if the mafia team, and if I kill VE today I can prove you and debears are mafia.
Phagga is not mafia. His analysis posts today show how much he wants to win, to figure out the game. Where is VE's scum hunting today? Nonexistant. He's mafia, you're mafia, and debears is mafia. GG
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On February 23 2013 01:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
His posts are just big walls of quotes and texts saying that he agrees with people. At least I know I'm not scum, so I reserve the right to laugh at you post-game.
If you're not mafia then you've done a real good job not lynching mafia VE this game, but that's a discussion for tomorrow.
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The lynch is not going easily, you're trying your best to derail it. Debears said the same thing while trying to get Jay lynched. You have a different mislynch target but it's the same shit.
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If VE dies I can pretty much nail CC to a cross. I have the case ready.
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