EPTWhy the change of Stance on CC? What brought this around
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jaybrundage
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Why the change of Stance on CC? What brought this around | ||
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jaybrundage
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On February 22 2013 08:00 debears wrote: Yeah that's martyring. He was behind by 2 in the votecount anyways. Everyone was set on lynching him. What does acting the martyr do to harm him as scum? Yamato was ahead by 3. Are we seeing the same thing here? | ||
yamato77
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yamato77
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On February 22 2013 08:03 jaybrundage wrote: hm Yamato. So who do you take out of the VE, Phagga, Debears scum team. Phagga im presuming? or Debears. Why the change of Stance on CC? What brought this around We'll talk about it tomorrow. Today we lynch VE | ||
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debears
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On February 22 2013 08:15 yamato77 wrote: If I'm mafia, make a case. Where's the counter case to mine on jay being scum? Where's the counter case to mine on VE being town You don't have any. Because you are scum and wrong Besides, I don't need to convince you. I need to convince CC and Phagga. CC and Phagga, you need to acknowledge my cases on Jay and VE. You also need to acknowledge that you would listen to a Yamato case. I'm not going to make a case just for the scum team to laugh at while they win. I refuse to put forth the effort unless you two agree to it. | ||
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BioSC
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VisceraEyes (4): yamato77, jaybrundage, Oatsmaster, phagga jaybrundage (1): debears Deadline in ~25.5 hours. VisceraEyes and Mr. Cheesecake have yet to vote. Currently VisceraEyes is set to be lynched. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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You win Yamato. ##Vote: VisceraEyes | ||
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jaybrundage
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VisceraEyes
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My final stab at scum are phagga, debears, yamato. That's pretty much the only possible combination that jives with all the facts. Debears just seems too sure that I'm town, in the face of pretty much everyone screaming otherwise. Yamato is pushing this wagon in a really scummy way and basically just confirms that his play to now has been a prelude to this moment. Honestly, who asks town to sheep them at LYLO? Fucking scum, obviously. Anyway, I'm not making a case, it's a waste of time. This game is already decided. I'll see you all in post-game. It truly has been a pleasure failing miserably with you guys. | ||
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jaybrundage
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VisceraEyes
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Anyway, if town listens to me we'd be lynching scum today instead of me. | ||
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jaybrundage
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VisceraEyes
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You're not in my scum list anymore because today I had the pleasure of reading one of our previous scum games, BC's Arkham Asylum. I totally spaced that I had played scum with you before, back in the day. The whole of your filter in that game was THREE PAGES, and your average post length was 2 lines. This game ISN'T EVEN CLOSE to your scum meta. | ||
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jaybrundage
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On February 22 2013 10:02 VisceraEyes wrote: It would be phagga. He's been skirting on the edge of everyone's vision, and he's been hopping on the most popular lynch all game. Even now he's ceding his position on you to ensure a mislynch on me...you, his greatest red read all game. You're not in my scum list anymore because today I had the pleasure of reading one of our previous scum games, BC's Arkham Asylum. I totally spaced that I had played scum with you before, back in the day. The whole of your filter in that game was THREE PAGES, and your average post length was 2 lines. This game ISN'T EVEN CLOSE to your scum meta. Yamato has been stating that my play in this game wasn't my scum meta.... Also you dropped your read on Oats as well. A complete flip what gives. Also what are you thoughts on CC. Yamato isn't scum he was trying to die so he would be a confirmed town and people would see his reads are genuine. It was only after Oats thought SlOosh was mafia that I decided to help change the vote. Also you had the chance to kill Yamato but you went over to SlOosh. Why did you do that if you thought Yamato was mafia. Also why isn't debears mafia he has hard defended you. He has defended you better then you have defended your self. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Debears might be mafia - and like I said I'm thinking so based on his hard defense of me...but frankly phagga is scummier than Debears and is basically absent during this, our most important day in the game. Debears is here, and honestly that buys him life until we flip phagga. Cheese is....well, Cheese definitely isn't scum. I stand by my assessment that scum wouldn't have bussed until the very last moment. It just doesn't make sense in this setup, they couldn't have hoped to win. And Cheese has been in every nomination since. It literally makes no sense to think Cheese is scum. Honestly yamato/Oats are interchangable. I had intended to go through Oats filter today, but Yamato has literally beat the care out of me. And again, townies should be interested in figuring out the game, not punching through a lynch, at LYLO. Oats has shown more flexibility in his mindset, and thus I find him townier than yamato. You say Yamato has been stating that your play in this game wasn't your scum meta. He hasn't shown it though...only asserted it. He never said why. Did that not bother you? | ||
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jaybrundage
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Yamato was trying to die so he would be a confirmed town and people would see his reads are genuine. It was only after Oats thought SlOosh was mafia that I decided to help change the vote. There is no reason scum would do this. None at all. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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jaybrundage
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On February 22 2013 10:55 VisceraEyes wrote: Except he's not dead is he jay? You can't be a martyr IF YOU'RE FUCKING ALIVE. Otherwise you're just a guy saying things louder than most. He would of been dead and he was fine with that. It was my post that changed that and then SlOosh changing his vote as well. I am not scum so I know that it wasn't someone part of the scum team. SlOosh also changed his vote on himself who is now a confirmed townie. And VE if your "Town" then you know that scum didnt have anyone change the votes so Yamato lived. With this information how can you think yamato is scum. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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My read on Yamato is based entirely on his play THIS PHASE. I haven't gone over his filter and I don't intend to. You have a point about the martyr thing, but frankly that doesn't excuse his absolute refusal to acknowledge that he might be lynching a townie. And he is jay. | ||
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jaybrundage
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On February 22 2013 11:11 VisceraEyes wrote: Look, I'm not going to argue with you about why Yamato is or isn't scum. Honestly I haven't put forth ANY effort into trying to trying to prove it and I'm not going to in the current environment because I don't want to lynch yamato. I want to lynch phagga...if you're willing to go in with me on phagga, I'm absolutely willing to discuss why that guy is scum. But until I have some sense that it's not a waste of time, I'm not wasting my time. I've kissed my wife for the last time. I've hugged my baby for the last time. I'm ready to die and end this game - unless townies show me they're interested in winning. My read on Yamato is based entirely on his play THIS PHASE. I haven't gone over his filter and I don't intend to. You have a point about the martyr thing, but frankly that doesn't excuse his absolute refusal to acknowledge that he might be lynching a townie. And he is jay. Why the hell wouldnt you argue. I am giving arguments to say hes town You think he's scum. We both disagree so we should argue till we convince the opposing party to change there opinion. You saw I have a good point about the martyr thing. But then you dismiss it in the next part of your post. And yes if he's town and he has a scum read. Why would he give up something he's so convinced of so easily. Ill post this again till you can refute it. On February 22 2013 11:03 jaybrundage wrote: He would of been dead and he was fine with that. It was my post that changed that and then SlOosh changing his vote as well. I am not scum so I know that it wasn't someone part of the scum team. SlOosh also changed his vote on himself who is now a confirmed townie. And VE if your "Town" then you know that scum didn't have anyone change the votes so Yamato lived. With this information how can you think yamato is scum. He would of killed himself so he could become a confirmed townie and that we would follow his read to lynch you. Again there is no scum motivation to do this. He would of flipped scum and we would of seen his reads for the bullshit they were. But if he's town this move makes sense. Die because one townie has too and let people follow your reads now that they know your confirmed town. I dont know how I can make it any simpler. VE do you get it? Given this information what is your proposed scum team. | ||
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