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EmileZola
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Vivax
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On February 01 2013 04:06 Sharrant wrote: Vivax, I'm sorry, I've tried ignoring everything you've taken out of context or twisted because apparently that's what you do. You don't read the thread, you just make shit up as you go along. That's it. You're wrong about why I gave EZ a town read. I gave EZ a town read because it's a hydra made of two people that I expect two spew anger constantly, AND I SAW NONE OF THAT. That was honestly the scummiest thing about him aside from the connection in Prom's post that I pointed out. And then there's finally some anger. Boom, that was the last piece of the puzzle for me to have him as a town read unless Prom flips and flips red at some point. This is a bad explanation. I doubt this was your original intention since you are telling me you'd read them as scum if they didn't spew anger constantly. You're asking them to act anti-town? On February 01 2013 04:06 Sharrant wrote: You're damn right I considered Thrawn a lurker lynch. He only had two posts of any substance. As scum he should have had a page of filter in day one, usually a little more than that. I rather would have lynched Prom who I had a scum read on at the time. He had gone so far past the point of lurking I was pretty sure he'd just replace out. He was afk day one, not lurking, there's a difference. Sharrant: January 27 2013 05:06 Thrawn2112 This will be much shorter. His first post is entirely null to me, a fairly obvious joke post but I don't have much faith in my ability to tell whether the joke is forced or not. What's concerning to me is his lack of contribution afterwards, I'm used to Thrawn being a name I see pop up quite frequently in whichever game he is in, and he's thus far barely been in this one. I don't think this matches up with any of his previous playing styles however, so this is a very weak scum read. On January 27 2013 14:55 Sharrant wrote: You were quite clear, but I wanted to give you a chance to clarify. I agree that Thrawn lurks when he is scum, but I have never seen him lurk this hard. Comparing his filters in other games they suffer significantly when he's scum compared to town, but I find it a little absurd to compare this lurking to his lurking in other games. I would be more agreeable if you had said this was a lurker lynch, but lurking this hard is headed into modkill/replacement territory, and at least from my perspective this seems non-alignment indicitave because of the severity of the lurking. I'll consider this more as we get closer to the deadline, but unless he pipes up soon, he's going to stay as a null read. Everything further has to be looked at by others. I'm tired of spoonfeeding the town, but what we see here is that you subtly criticized iamp for going for a lurker lynch, while constantly repeating: "Thrawn is scummy for lurking, but he lurks so much he can't be scum". On January 28 2013 07:34 Sharrant wrote: Well, for starters, Thrawn is not a scum read. I'm not sure how you got that, he's pretty much entirely null to me. Too much absence to get even a minor read on. EmileZola is like a vortex for my sanity. Another big lurker (though slightly more active) and he's mainly just sort of trolled along. I think it's fairly safe to treat him like he's not MrZentor, which makes me wonder why the wagon that was beginning to form on him fizzled out and hasn't come back after the revelation. He agrees with one of my reads though, I'm not sure to take that as a mark against my read, or a mark for him being townie, I need to hear more from him. Djodref is still null for me, and JieXian is pretty much my wildcard scum read. If it doesn't end up being Prom/VE/EmileZola I would expect JieXian to be in the team. In the end you say he isn't scum at all. On February 01 2013 04:06 Sharrant wrote: I wanted to lynch Yamato for being afk the entire day, up until he comes in and hard defends a guy who has done nothing but sheep and go "this guys scum cuz scum". What the fuck is that? If Thrawn had pulled some bullshit like that, I absolutely would have been on his lynch. On February 01 2013 02:08 Vivax wrote: You know, I don't see scum successfully fakeclaiming miller and then starting to troll the shit out of town getting to the edge of getting lynched for it. Comment on this then, I assume you saw this post while going through my filter. On February 01 2013 04:06 Sharrant wrote: Yeah, I had a rough day 2 because I was 100% sure about VE being scum. And he flipped town, along with so many people doing things that looked scummy it was hard for me to actually get a real read except for a bunch of town reads. That left me with a pool of players that I could make pretty similar cases on. Yeah, VE attacked me when I went after him, but you know what? Some of the things he has attacked me for I know I'm right on. Everyone that has flipped that wasn'ton Thrawn's wagon has flipped town, and I'm town. You had a "rough" day2? You had jay and JX as scumreads, I was hardtunneling JX while you did exactly nothing to get a better read on these two players. You kept dropping statements about them, never seemed truly interested in knowing what they had to say to certain matters. On February 01 2013 04:06 Sharrant wrote: Stop twisting my words, stop trying to make a terrible case on me, and start trying to actually lynch scum. I had to deal with this before I reread the rest of the thread. I saw this post and it just pushed my buttons. I'll be around the computer until day post, but probably with a few gaps in there. Emotional, dramatic fluff that only disrupts discussion and atmosphere. This is the stuff you gave EZ a townread for right? | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
Sharrent: town-claim as pointed out by wbg/ss EZ: logs about reads, ideas and total play. If he is scum I deserve to lose. Imp: first vote on thrawn very similar to his usual town meta, my only qualm on this is that if I were scum with thrawn I'd have voted him as soon as possible and pushed his ass forever. xscsk/Mocsta: green check, also as I said before his enthusiasm and general openness. Vivax: DT claim Yamato: miller claim Djo: Vig claim (I have my serious doubts though) JX: his interactions with me, he has just seemed 'right' if you understand me Me: I got my role pm who am I wrong on and why? | ||
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Vivax
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Remember the notes I gave to Palmar in LVIII? | ||
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Promethelax
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Promethelax
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
So far the person I think is the scummiest is Djo. His reasons for following up on xsksc were terrible (e.g. definition of a case) and then the "case" against VE was terrible, like really terrible. I usually enjoy reading Djodref cases, they have really good presentation and hes constantly attempting to update the mechanisms for delivery; these on the other hand are completely lack lustre, and the thought process is minimal and felt contrived. Now I haven't read anything about a vig claim etc, so obviously this is subject to change. I have some thoughts on other players too, but need to see how the relationships develop post-Night1. | ||
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Promethelax
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Vivax
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Yamato: I don't see him piss off town like that as scum when he could just play the pro-town guy with a claim in the bag. As for Sharrant, his attitude towards thrawn stinks, VE got murdered after attacking him, and his obvious disinterest in finding out who's scum between JX and jay, and all the other stuff I wrote in my last posts against him. The NK argument isn't just WIFOM, scum is used to people not speculating about that cause they are used to people dismissing it cause of the wifom-argument, so they simply pick the most straight forward choice. Have yet to play in a scum team that says: "We kill this guy cause then they suspect this guy...", mostly they say "We kill this guy cause he has good reads and wants to kill us". | ||
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iamperfection
United States9639 Posts
iamperfection I am the towniest player in the game once again EmileZola Greatest scum game ever if they are scum. Those log sprove they are actively talking about the game and trying to figure shit out. djo still town Vivax i like his agreesion dt saying alot of stupid shit very probally town Yamato miller claim Sharrant- been using my name to prove his towniness a lot dont like that. plus running out of options with my town reads possibly scum but i still dont think so. JieXian - helped me kill thrawn. i dont see why vivax gave up on his case but i think it holds water and made more sense towards the end. Promethelax- he can try to spin it whatever way he wants but the fact is that he voted for what was a town read at the time. He decided to differ to the masses rather than push what he "really" thought xsksc- complains about aggression wtf? seems more concerned about making an atmosphere then actually catching scum made a post complaining about the chat logs. why would he complain about that as town?????? all he has going for him is the check. mocosta hasn't done anything. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
If you are checking me tonight could you not? I'd like you to get a red check instead of another green check and I'm 100% confident of my ability to not be lynched as opposed to JX if he is town. What I'm saying is a check on me is a hilarious waste. | ||
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Vivax
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Vivax
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Why the hell would scum beg the vigi to not shoot two townies???? The green check holds so far. | ||
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Promethelax
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iamperfection
United States9639 Posts
On February 01 2013 07:41 Vivax wrote: Iamp ignoring the argument brought up by Djo where xsksc said "Please don't shoot VE or Hapa" is also worrisome. Why the hell would scum beg the vigi to not shoot two townies???? The green check holds so far. so he would shoot the other townie they weren't shooting ve hapa ghost all town and it looks like ez is town as well so it dosn't matter who djo was going to shoot with his candidates. in fact it could even be seen as scummy because he didn't want a double stack on ve. | ||
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Promethelax
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Djodref
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On February 01 2013 07:41 Vivax wrote: Iamp ignoring the argument brought up by Djo where xsksc said "Please don't shoot VE or Hapa" is also worrisome. Why the hell would scum beg the vigi to not shoot two townies???? The green check holds so far. Yeah, but there is a lack of scumhunting in his filter. I don't think he should be considered 100% town at all. We have to pressure Mocsta. And he is useless for now (see his latest post). | ||
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iamperfection
United States9639 Posts
On February 01 2013 07:48 Promethelax wrote: I'll explain why Djo is not confirmed town tomorrow. I think we should consider him for the lynch with Yamato tomorrow. ......but what if you die? | ||
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