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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 28 2013 21:46 GMT
#1001
No, because it seems outside the parameters of the game...this is a no PM game after all.

I could be wrong, it's just like...hydras are abnormal I almost forgot how to play with them. LOL
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
January 28 2013 22:29 GMT
#1002
Okay, here are my reads and a bit of a case.

Yamato
I'd say he's confirmed town, if he's still around at LyLo then we could have an issue but that's it.

IamPerfection
First townread of the game, pretty much confirmed. Posts don't feel constructed, and he's not giving off an air of discomfort, so even without his spot as conductor of the thrawn wagon he's got major townie points. The only thing that worries me is how sure he was that it was scum play from Thrawn, it's a niggling doubt but if Thrawn knew he wouldn't be around he might've told them to go for a very early bus. Until LyLo he should be treated as confirmed town.

Djodref
I can't see him being anything other than the vigi at this point, again, he's anotherperson to treat as confirmed town unless we start getting SK kills, or the game doesn't end after the scum's death, but that'd be such a risky play for an SK to make, there's just no payoff.


EmileZola
I did not like his early game at all, but he's been very townie lately to make up for it. Being a hydra makes a lot of sense, and seems to almost confirm him green.

Promethelax
Not my strongest read ever, but I'm fairly certain he's town. His recent posts have been pretty solid.

Vivax
Right out of the gates I had him as a strong townread with IamPerfection, but that's dropped off a little.

Ghost_403
I'm reasonably certain he's town. His thoughts have almost been bang on to what mine have been, I'm hesitant to put him as town until I hear his current thoughts on Hapahauli and Promethelax.

JieXian
Unsure about him, but other people are reading him as town, so that's a point for him above xsksc

xsksc
Unsure about him either, almost has to be scum by process of elimination if Hapahauli wasn't in the game still.

Hapahauli
There's not much to say about Hapa without trying to mindgame the hosts. Scummy/null.

VisceraEyes
I'm not going to make connection cases before his flip, but if there were ever a time to do that, I think it would be now.

The first thing that set me off was this post.

On January 26 2013 17:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay so far I think iamp is the scummiest. Earlier he asked me if I was serious about my accusation of thrawn. Looking back I noticed this in his filter.

Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 09:47 iamperfection wrote:
On January 26 2013 09:22 Promethelax wrote:
On January 26 2013 09:18 Vivax wrote:
That's good news! Marv is on town's side!


Too quick to believe marv. Miller in c9++ is in 40% of games. Look at the bugs/palmar argument in YAN. There is a good reason for scum to claim miller too.

##Vote: Vivax

was this a serious vote because if it is very weak

Vivax been very posty after having an avenue to not be with his pre game post.
I want to know if you actually think vivax is mafia when you get back.


Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 11:20 iamperfection wrote:
your vote on vivax serious prom?


In this post he appears to be suspicious of prom for his vote on Vivax. What strikes me however is that if he's suspicious of Prom, he's basically telling Prom how to answer to make himself less suspicious. Why would he do this as a townie? As scum I can see reason for him to coach Prom through to the correct response regardless of Prom's alignment, but why would iamp do that as town? Especially given his response to my calling him out:

Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 11:28 iamperfection wrote:
On January 26 2013 11:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
iamp do you have any opinions on what's going on or do you plan to uselessly ask people if "they're serious" all game?

Well if i told you how i think he would answer with regards to his alignment it would kind of defeat the purpose.


It would kind of at that.

##Vote: iamperfection


At this point I already had a huge townread on IamPerfection but VisceraEyes is trying to make him look scummy, and he is the only scum read he mentions all day. The closest he comes to another person being scummy, is saying he could lynch EmileZola because he's a troll and that he's okay with a policy lynch on Thrawn. (He does soft defend Hapa as well, but that's for after the flip)

On January 27 2013 01:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
I can do a thrawn vote too...consolidation-style.


Then the Thrawn bandwagon starts picking up steam, and suddenly VE can't even be bothered to mention people he thinks are scummy. He's entirely focused on how the wagon must be scum, but doesn't actually comment on who on the wagon might be scum.

On January 28 2013 03:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm still okay with the thrawn lynch, aside from the relative lack of opposition. No one seems to care if thrawn dies, which is never indicative of a good lynch. But this is minor, and it's still kinda early.


On January 28 2013 03:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Everyone does....that doesn't give you pause at all?


Two posts not even 15 minutes apart, both giving the most meek defense I've ever seen. It's like he's trying to get the bandwagon off of Thrawn without his name being involved at all.


On January 28 2013 03:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because if there's no resistance that means that scum are okay with the lynch. Who are scum okay with lynching? Townies.

Like I said, it's early enough that it's not really that much of a concern, but I wanted to put that out there for anyone paying attention to that kind of thing. No one has spoken up in defense of thrawn yet - at least not that I've seen. This is something that should be considered.


"Hey, guys, third post about the Thrawn lynch being bad in 20 minutes. Boy, it sure is crazy how no one is defending him right? Right, guys? He's obviously townie."


On January 28 2013 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not gonna sit here and argue with you. If you really wanna push this failwagon be my guest.


"I'm not going to argue, but it's a bad lynch"


On January 28 2013 03:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not softdefending thrawn. I'm saying I don't like that there's no resistance to the wagon. I've said (multiple times) that I'm okay with a thrawn lynch. So whatever, keep trying to inject scumminess into my play however you wish yamato. It doesn't make me scum.


"I'm not soft defending Thrawn, I'm just saying this is a bad lynch for the fifth time in 20 minutes (Seriously, from 3:06 to 3:28 he posted 5 times about how Thrawn is most likely town). He's obviously town, you can tell by the lack of people resisting the wagon, but I'm okay with a thrawn lynch."

Pardon? You just spent 5 posts in a row saying he was town, the wagon is being lead by your ONLY SCUMREAD, and you are "okay" with the lynch?



On January 28 2013 03:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well, there are now three votes on VE. You do the math Sharrant.

I'm pulling a thrawn. I've got a birthday party to go to, so I won't be back tonight. Figure it out guys.


"I don't even care enough to mention someone you should be voting before I leave."


On January 28 2013 03:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Nono...I'll throw my weight behind thrawn.

##Unvote
##Vote: thrawn


"Oh, right, let me just hop on this wagon first."

How is that not deserving of an instant lynch since Thrawn flipped red? I don't want him vigged, I want him lynched. I want there to be as much discussion about this as possible.

So, quick recap here.

His ONLY SCUMREAD throughout all 48 hours of day 1 is a person that I think most people had easily meta-ed as town. He does no scum hunting beyond this, opting for two policy lynches. And then when one of them happens to be on scum, he defends him in 5 posts in 22 minutes and then says "I wasn't soft defending him". Then hops onto the wagon anyways.

If someone can rationalize this from a town perspective I would love to hear it, but all I see is VisceraEyes claiming scum, and everyone just looking elsewhere.

VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 28 2013 22:34 GMT
#1003
Oh right, let me just hop on this wagon of two people first, which is on scum. Yeah let me scummily do that.
Get real Sharrant.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 28 2013 22:40 GMT
#1004
And the "failwagon" was in response to Yamato who was pushing me as a lynch target, I was not referring to the thrawn lynch.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 28 2013 22:40 GMT
#1005
So....yeah. Swing and a miss.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
January 28 2013 22:41 GMT
#1006
On January 29 2013 07:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
And the "failwagon" was in response to Yamato who was pushing me as a lynch target, I was not referring to the thrawn lynch.


Ah, my apologies on that one, I didn't realize. The rest still stands.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 28 2013 22:43 GMT
#1007
Neat. If I'm alive tomorrow I guess I'll expect your vote since I'm your only scumread in the whole game. ^^
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 28 2013 22:58 GMT
#1008
i probably won't be alive... i have not enought time left to figure this game out completely and since I think I have enough information to do it, this is pretty sad... only because of this idiot djodref who threatened me, although he hadn't read the thread...
I planned troll and end the game day3 :-[
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
January 28 2013 22:59 GMT
#1009
iamperfection I am the towiest player in the game once again
djo he is town
Sharrant I like most of his posts been clear with his thinking and i like his most recent case against ve. I think he is town

[green] JieXian - helped me kill thrawn
[green] Yamato hasn't done much miller claim probably makes him town
Promethelax i would have him higher but i respect his scum play. his aggresiveness reminds me of my own and his calling out of bs reminds me of me he is likely town.
Vivax i like his agreesion
Hapa dont know .



EmileZola,ugh i dont know maybe we should let dr. Frankensteins evil monster live for a bit longer i expect a lot more and less trolling from these two idiots. for someone who criticized a majority of the players on tl he should be doing a lot better. if they dont provide meat kill them.

ve if he keeps derping it up and dosn't scum hunt well or leads well and im gone kill him
Ghost- says his crappy play is an excuse for his day 1. it isnt. dosn;t care who gets lynched didnt advocate strongly he can die.
xsksc- complains about aggression wtf? seems more concerned about making an atmosphere then actually catching scum

i will push him if i am alive.




http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
January 28 2013 22:59 GMT
#1010
damn formating
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 28 2013 23:01 GMT
#1011
EmileZola

iamperfection

6 filterpages, oneliners +

Promethelax

8 filterpages, strange behaviour towards me +

Djodref

8 pages and Vig claim +

marvellosity / yamato

yamato has 1,5 filterpages -

Hapahauli

gone, 3 pages. rather a townish number. +

VisceraEyes

4 pages. I didn't expect more or less. 0

Vivax

4 filterpages, pictures -

Sharrant

1,5 filterpages, big posts -

xsksc

4 pages, tunnels me -

JieXian

3 pages. -

ghost_403

2 pages. Almost only 1 -
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=394344&currentpage=25

thrawn2112

dead
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 28 2013 23:01 GMT
#1012
i wish i had more time left... this list is mostly based on feeling...
I need a closer look and more time
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 28 2013 23:02 GMT
#1013
Day 2


No fluff available.



VisceraEyes the Vanilla Townie was found dead with his head in a puddle.
Ghost_403's Vanilla Townie head was found in the morning. His body wasn't.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 28 2013 23:04 GMT
#1014
ahahahahaha, stupid scumteam :D okay. I'll be back
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
January 28 2013 23:04 GMT
#1015
## vote xsxkxx

who's with me?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 28 2013 23:06 GMT
#1016
##Vote xsksc
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 28 2013 23:07 GMT
#1017
Meh.

##Vote xsksc

iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
January 28 2013 23:07 GMT
#1018
On January 29 2013 08:06 Vivax wrote:
##Vote xsksc

you didn't take much convincing did you now
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
January 28 2013 23:12 GMT
#1019
I feel like this night has been catastrophic.
If there's ever a second NK we lynch Djo.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
January 28 2013 23:13 GMT
#1020
On January 29 2013 08:12 Vivax wrote:
I feel like this night has been catastrophic.
If there's ever a second NK we lynch Djo.

wat
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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