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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
January 28 2013 15:59 GMT
#961
On January 29 2013 00:55 Djodref wrote:
An hydra should be able to post two times more !
Emile Zola, why so inactive ?

It could explain the difference of reads on VE though...

that probably explains the difference in reads but you bring a good point about the activity.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
January 28 2013 16:01 GMT
#962
@djo: You gonna give me a good reason why you're planning on shooting me? I can't really argue again "meh, I don't really see any better scum targets", especially when I've been pushing the two scum that I've found all game long. Do you disagree with my reads?
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
January 28 2013 16:17 GMT
#963
Djo, Vivax only chose to come out tunnelling me after I accused him, and now he's accusing of stuff I've already cleared up. I won't mind you shooting him.

As for ghost, he did not switch his vote over to thrawn, not even at the last minute. Would scum do that? You make the WIFOM decision.

On January 29 2013 00:50 Toadesstern wrote:
Actually considered this earlier and I think I should have stated it pregame: EmileZola is a hydra. Won't be telling you who it is though.

I don't mind hydras as long as the thread knows about it. Now you do.


It's no wonder only certain posts contain that German grammar.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 28 2013 16:19 GMT
#964
If I was vig I would have shot Djo.

Now it's kind of ironic that he claims vig.

I think he's SK.
Writer@WriterYamato
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:19 GMT
#965
On January 29 2013 01:01 ghost_403 wrote:
@djo: You gonna give me a good reason why you're planning on shooting me? I can't really argue again "meh, I don't really see any better scum targets", especially when I've been pushing the two scum that I've found all game long. Do you disagree with my reads?


I'm going to shoot you because you started to be active yesterday and pushed Prom (that you apparently totally forgot) right when thrawn wagon was starting to get some traction. Also, thrawn lynch was quite easily, which makes me think that his scumbuddies where also quite inactive and couldn't derail his lynch.
So this is looking bad for Sharrant, Hapa and you. And I have to say that I consider the rest of the players quite town (even JieXian thanks to his early vote on thrawn, also he is quite open and nice in this game) at the exception of EmileZola.

I don't think it is a bad decision to shoot you because you are inactive and you pushing Prome and defending thrawn makes sure that we have to lynch you at some point. Even if you are town, I don't want us to waste a day mislynching you.

You should have brought more points for VE, because he is active, he is trying to figure things out, he is playing the game, so I think he is town.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
January 28 2013 16:22 GMT
#966
On January 29 2013 00:26 Vivax wrote:
Well Ghost has few, quite detailed posts about who he wants to lynch, but they are inflexible reads. There's been a lot going on in the thread and he stuck to them without being very responsive to what's been going on.

JX cause of the premature frame and him trying to justify it by saying he wouldn't have done that as scum, which is not a valid argument. Scum picks someone to attack and then tries to find as many reasons as possible to make it look like they have a reason to.

If you read JXs filter, JX justified his vote on thrawn by saying these things in chronological order:

Show nested quote +
I'm putting mario aside, since that seems to be the only game where he is loud as mafia. I want thrawn to come out.

##Vote: thrawn


Show nested quote +
I thought thrawn was probably scum because of that scummy post by you and your strong defence of him.
I can't find any games by tfunk. Did he play any?


(To Prom)

Show nested quote +

It doesn't matter now that you've cleared it up, but I was thinking that:

1) You said something scummy
2) You defended thrawn
3) thrawn is lurky, and may be scum
4) You're scummy and defending someone who may be scum
5) You're both scum


To prom.

As you see, JX initially voted for thrawn for him to come out.
When Prom "defended" thrawn (which was not true), JX conveniently called them both scum and said thrawn is scum for Prom defending thrawn.


Dude I told prom that I WAS WRONG about it after he explained it to me. How could I not have misunderstood Prom

- He called him Tfunk
- He quoted a game with 2 pages of filter (1 and a half pages more than this game) while people were after thrawn
- he said something about "I'm not unhappy at all about a thrawn lynch" which I confused me too

It was an enquiry.

Dammit even the first line of my so called "accusation" according to you was explaining to prom that I was WRONG about him.......

You haven't changed at all.
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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:22 GMT
#967
On January 29 2013 01:19 yamato77 wrote:
If I was vig I would have shot Djo.

Now it's kind of ironic that he claims vig.

I think he's SK.


Yeah, because the SK would totally have claimed Vig like I did and wanted to draw a lot of attention on him.
If there is a SK in this game, I think it's Emile Zola.
Right now, I would say that Sharrant and ghost are scum, which explain why we could lynch a scum on D1 (inactive scum team). Emile Zola could be SK because of his anti-town play and supersoft reaction to my gun pointed at his head.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:24 GMT
#968
@ Vivax

JX is town, and he is scummy as town, and you should know it. His vote against thrawn is the second one against him, and he gave good reasons for his vote.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:24 GMT
#969
@ JieXian

Vivax is also town, because well, he hasn't changed at all
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
January 28 2013 16:26 GMT
#970
I distinctly remember pushing Prom. I pushed Prom when I thought he was acting scummy. What I don't know is how that makes me scum.

And before you say "oh, well, you didn't like the Thrawn lynch.", I would like you to take a look at my previous games and find me one where I'm okay lynching a lurker Day 1.

Oh, and for the record, "posting a lot" != "active and trying to figure stuff out". That's probably the worst part of the TL meta. Judge me by the content and quality of my posts.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:27 GMT
#971
Ok guys, it's 1.30 am and here are my reads

[list]
[*]iamp, macthing his usual town meta, leading the lynch on the evil lurking scum thrawn, is confirmed town
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:28 GMT
#972
On January 29 2013 01:26 ghost_403 wrote:
I distinctly remember pushing Prom. I pushed Prom when I thought he was acting scummy. What I don't know is how that makes me scum.

And before you say "oh, well, you didn't like the Thrawn lynch.", I would like you to take a look at my previous games and find me one where I'm okay lynching a lurker Day 1.

Oh, and for the record, "posting a lot" != "active and trying to figure stuff out". That's probably the worst part of the TL meta. Judge me by the content and quality of my posts.


So, why did you give up on him today ?
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 28 2013 16:31 GMT
#973
On January 29 2013 01:22 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 01:19 yamato77 wrote:
If I was vig I would have shot Djo.

Now it's kind of ironic that he claims vig.

I think he's SK.


Yeah, because the SK would totally have claimed Vig like I did and wanted to draw a lot of attention on him.
If there is a SK in this game, I think it's Emile Zola.
Right now, I would say that Sharrant and ghost are scum, which explain why we could lynch a scum on D1 (inactive scum team). Emile Zola could be SK because of his anti-town play and supersoft reaction to my gun pointed at his head.

Why do any of you people do the things you do?

Last time there was an SK he claimed town vig before he died.

What makes you any different?
Writer@WriterYamato
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
January 28 2013 16:32 GMT
#974
djo just to make sure.

make sure you say exactly say who you are going to shoot just in case you get shot.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
January 28 2013 16:33 GMT
#975
On January 29 2013 01:31 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 01:22 Djodref wrote:
On January 29 2013 01:19 yamato77 wrote:
If I was vig I would have shot Djo.

Now it's kind of ironic that he claims vig.

I think he's SK.


Yeah, because the SK would totally have claimed Vig like I did and wanted to draw a lot of attention on him.
If there is a SK in this game, I think it's Emile Zola.
Right now, I would say that Sharrant and ghost are scum, which explain why we could lynch a scum on D1 (inactive scum team). Emile Zola could be SK because of his anti-town play and supersoft reaction to my gun pointed at his head.

Why do any of you people do the things you do?

Last time there was an SK he claimed town vig before he died.

What makes you any different?

uh the way he did it.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
January 28 2013 16:34 GMT
#976
out for a while
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 28 2013 16:35 GMT
#977
On January 29 2013 01:33 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 01:31 yamato77 wrote:
On January 29 2013 01:22 Djodref wrote:
On January 29 2013 01:19 yamato77 wrote:
If I was vig I would have shot Djo.

Now it's kind of ironic that he claims vig.

I think he's SK.


Yeah, because the SK would totally have claimed Vig like I did and wanted to draw a lot of attention on him.
If there is a SK in this game, I think it's Emile Zola.
Right now, I would say that Sharrant and ghost are scum, which explain why we could lynch a scum on D1 (inactive scum team). Emile Zola could be SK because of his anti-town play and supersoft reaction to my gun pointed at his head.

Why do any of you people do the things you do?

Last time there was an SK he claimed town vig before he died.

What makes you any different?

uh the way he did it.

You mean:

1) Receive suspicion

2) Claim town vig

3) Claim to play pro-town

Is that the sequence of events you're looking for?
Writer@WriterYamato
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
January 28 2013 16:36 GMT
#978
On January 29 2013 01:28 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 01:26 ghost_403 wrote:
I distinctly remember pushing Prom. I pushed Prom when I thought he was acting scummy. What I don't know is how that makes me scum.

And before you say "oh, well, you didn't like the Thrawn lynch.", I would like you to take a look at my previous games and find me one where I'm okay lynching a lurker Day 1.

Oh, and for the record, "posting a lot" != "active and trying to figure stuff out". That's probably the worst part of the TL meta. Judge me by the content and quality of my posts.


So, why did you give up on him today ?


I haven't given up. I've been spending my time pushing VE instead of going back and rereading D1 for Prom's contributions to the lynching of Thrawn. As soon as I get a chance to catch my breath, I'll go back and figure out what Thrawn's flip says about Prom's alignment.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:37 GMT
#979
On January 29 2013 01:36 ghost_403 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 01:28 Djodref wrote:
On January 29 2013 01:26 ghost_403 wrote:
I distinctly remember pushing Prom. I pushed Prom when I thought he was acting scummy. What I don't know is how that makes me scum.

And before you say "oh, well, you didn't like the Thrawn lynch.", I would like you to take a look at my previous games and find me one where I'm okay lynching a lurker Day 1.

Oh, and for the record, "posting a lot" != "active and trying to figure stuff out". That's probably the worst part of the TL meta. Judge me by the content and quality of my posts.


So, why did you give up on him today ?


I haven't given up. I've been spending my time pushing VE instead of going back and rereading D1 for Prom's contributions to the lynching of Thrawn. As soon as I get a chance to catch my breath, I'll go back and figure out what Thrawn's flip says about Prom's alignment.


I'd like your thoughts on Sharrant if possible.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
January 28 2013 16:41 GMT
#980
On January 29 2013 01:35 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 01:33 iamperfection wrote:
On January 29 2013 01:31 yamato77 wrote:
On January 29 2013 01:22 Djodref wrote:
On January 29 2013 01:19 yamato77 wrote:
If I was vig I would have shot Djo.

Now it's kind of ironic that he claims vig.

I think he's SK.


Yeah, because the SK would totally have claimed Vig like I did and wanted to draw a lot of attention on him.
If there is a SK in this game, I think it's Emile Zola.
Right now, I would say that Sharrant and ghost are scum, which explain why we could lynch a scum on D1 (inactive scum team). Emile Zola could be SK because of his anti-town play and supersoft reaction to my gun pointed at his head.

Why do any of you people do the things you do?

Last time there was an SK he claimed town vig before he died.

What makes you any different?

uh the way he did it.

You mean:

1) Receive suspicion

2) Claim town vig

3) Claim to play pro-town

Is that the sequence of events you're looking for?

djo was definitely not under the most suspicion

if was scum he would have to worry about getting counter claimed.

stop being silly.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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