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ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
January 28 2013 16:41 GMT
#981
I have him marked as town on my sheet. He's got a short filter, but he seems pretty intelligent and thorough in his analysis. We have similar thoughts on a lot of things. Honestly, haven't spent a lot of time analyzing him because we're so similar, despite the fact that neither of us are sheeping each other. We've come to the same place by different paths.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:42 GMT
#982
  • iamp, matching his usual town meta, leading the lynch on the evil lurking scum thrawn, is confirmed town
  • JieXian, also matching his usual town meta, quite careless and nice, second vote on thrawn
  • Yamato, some good posts defending VE when I wanted to shoot him + miller claim

  • Vivax, matching his town meta in term of activity and "craziness"
  • Promethelax, appears townie, follows his targets, cares about the game, a bit aggressive
  • VE, couldn't know thrawn alignment, more active than in his scum games, same feeling than LVIII
  • xsksc, reasonable, polite, promotes a good atmosphere and is open about his thoughts

  • Hapa, looked townie at the beginning, but Hapa is able to do that, need to pressure the replacement
  • EmileZola, didn't like supersoft drama, quite inactive for an hydra, could be SK because not helping the town

  • Sharrant
  • Ghost


My theory is that the scum team couldn't divert the town from thrawn lynch because they were also inactive. Which makes the last guys on my list looking quite bad. Especially ghost coming last minute and starting being more active when thrawn wagon started to get some traction. The best decision is to shoot him, unless he can prove himself town until the deadline.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:46 GMT
#983
I think I could be wrong on xsksc and Promethelax. But I'm quite confident in the rest of my reads.
I'll let you know my final decision when I wake up tomorrow morning. You can trust me 100% that I'm going to do what I'm going to announce in the thread.

Also if you take the time to read the beginning of the game, it is quite clear that I'm not scum (I'm the first one calling thrawn out after VE) and my claim tonight should also be a good proof that I'm not SK. I think it was a good move since the mafia RB is dead.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
January 28 2013 16:47 GMT
#984
On January 29 2013 01:42 Djodref wrote:
  • iamp, matching his usual town meta, leading the lynch on the evil lurking scum thrawn, is confirmed town
  • JieXian, also matching his usual town meta, quite careless and nice, second vote on thrawn
  • Yamato, some good posts defending VE when I wanted to shoot him + miller claim

  • Vivax, matching his town meta in term of activity and "craziness"
  • Promethelax, appears townie, follows his targets, cares about the game, a bit aggressive
  • VE, couldn't know thrawn alignment, more active than in his scum games, same feeling than LVIII
  • xsksc, reasonable, polite, promotes a good atmosphere and is open about his thoughts

  • Hapa, looked townie at the beginning, but Hapa is able to do that, need to pressure the replacement
  • EmileZola, didn't like supersoft drama, quite inactive for an hydra, could be SK because not helping the town

  • Sharrant
  • Ghost


My theory is that the scum team couldn't divert the town from thrawn lynch because they were also inactive. Which makes the last guys on my list looking quite bad. Especially ghost coming last minute and starting being more active when thrawn wagon started to get some traction. The best decision is to shoot him, unless he can prove himself town until the deadline.

i would make some alterations to this

i will post my own closer to the deadline.
agree with the town reads except one.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:49 GMT
#985
On January 29 2013 01:35 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 01:33 iamperfection wrote:
On January 29 2013 01:31 yamato77 wrote:
On January 29 2013 01:22 Djodref wrote:
On January 29 2013 01:19 yamato77 wrote:
If I was vig I would have shot Djo.

Now it's kind of ironic that he claims vig.

I think he's SK.


Yeah, because the SK would totally have claimed Vig like I did and wanted to draw a lot of attention on him.
If there is a SK in this game, I think it's Emile Zola.
Right now, I would say that Sharrant and ghost are scum, which explain why we could lynch a scum on D1 (inactive scum team). Emile Zola could be SK because of his anti-town play and supersoft reaction to my gun pointed at his head.

Why do any of you people do the things you do?

Last time there was an SK he claimed town vig before he died.

What makes you any different?

uh the way he did it.

You mean:

1) Receive suspicion

2) Claim town vig

3) Claim to play pro-town

Is that the sequence of events you're looking for?


I didn't care about the suspicion people were showing towards me. I'm very confident that I could talk my way out of a mislynch (at least as town) after Hero Mini Mafia.
Also I was pretty sure to be confirmed town after my shoot tonight, and that's why I've been asking people for their cases against me. After that I've realized that it could be even better to directly claim vig to put some pressure on the scummy players.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:51 GMT
#986
On January 29 2013 01:47 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 01:42 Djodref wrote:
  • iamp, matching his usual town meta, leading the lynch on the evil lurking scum thrawn, is confirmed town
  • JieXian, also matching his usual town meta, quite careless and nice, second vote on thrawn
  • Yamato, some good posts defending VE when I wanted to shoot him + miller claim

  • Vivax, matching his town meta in term of activity and "craziness"
  • Promethelax, appears townie, follows his targets, cares about the game, a bit aggressive
  • VE, couldn't know thrawn alignment, more active than in his scum games, same feeling than LVIII
  • xsksc, reasonable, polite, promotes a good atmosphere and is open about his thoughts

  • Hapa, looked townie at the beginning, but Hapa is able to do that, need to pressure the replacement
  • EmileZola, didn't like supersoft drama, quite inactive for an hydra, could be SK because not helping the town

  • Sharrant
  • Ghost


My theory is that the scum team couldn't divert the town from thrawn lynch because they were also inactive. Which makes the last guys on my list looking quite bad. Especially ghost coming last minute and starting being more active when thrawn wagon started to get some traction. The best decision is to shoot him, unless he can prove himself town until the deadline.

i would make some alterations to this

i will post my own closer to the deadline.
agree with the town reads except one.


Yeah, I would have liked to post mine closer to the deadline but I prefer to put it here now before going to bed...
I'll check the thread before I wake up but just in case I don't hear my alarm clock.

##Shoot ghost
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:54 GMT
#987
I would like people to discuss about Promethelax and xsksc when I sleep please !
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22064 Posts
January 28 2013 17:12 GMT
#988
Wtf you have JX as strong town suddenly?

On January 28 2013 21:38 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 21:31 EmileZola wrote:
you better shoot ghost.


So ghost and Sharrant the remaining scum players ?
It looks too easy. What about JieXian and Hapa ? I think they could be scum as well.


On January 28 2013 23:28 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 23:25 Vivax wrote:
I would actually support if you shot JX as well. Decent chance of being scum due to the premature Prom dirt slinging.


Yeah, I could see myself shooting him tonight ^^


That is a scummy switch.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 17:20 GMT
#989
On January 29 2013 02:12 Vivax wrote:
Wtf you have JX as strong town suddenly?

Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 21:38 Djodref wrote:
On January 28 2013 21:31 EmileZola wrote:
you better shoot ghost.


So ghost and Sharrant the remaining scum players ?
It looks too easy. What about JieXian and Hapa ? I think they could be scum as well.


Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 23:28 Djodref wrote:
On January 28 2013 23:25 Vivax wrote:
I would actually support if you shot JX as well. Decent chance of being scum due to the premature Prom dirt slinging.


Yeah, I could see myself shooting him tonight ^^


That is a scummy switch.


I wanted to test his reaction and force him to participate. I think he is town after re-reading the thread, and anyway I'm going to be confirmed vig (and certainly dead) soon enough.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 28 2013 17:35 GMT
#990
On January 29 2013 01:54 Djodref wrote:
I would like people to discuss about Promethelax and xsksc when I sleep please !


I'm town. I have xscsk on the green side of my notes. I liked his reaction to SS/other guy when they appeared and said they hadn't read the thread [an aside, I knew that EZ was a hydra because Oats slipped to me pre-game. You'll notice this is why I was freaking out on how EZ =/= Mr. Z it also is the secret I was trying to get SS to reveal to the thread. I'm glad everyone else knows what I know but now the other half has been slipped to me as well]

On January 29 2013 00:06 JieXian wrote:
Shoot Vivax, his activity is like he hasn't been drinking his cappucinno for days, not at all like the Vivax from LIX or the newbie game. He's sneaking around quietly instigating people.


I have a hard time seeing this as scummy. We all have activity changes, we all have aggressions and instigations. What is it in Vivax's play that makes you call him scum? (not that he is abrasive but that he is scum).

On January 29 2013 00:35 iamperfection wrote:
i would be super suspicious if prom defended thrawn for no reason what so ever that would look super weird. If prom actually had straight up defended thrawn i would have tried to kill him because a defense of lurker who plays scum by lurking is scummy as hell.


thrawn wasn't a lurker lynch he just plays scum really bad.


Thisthisthis. Defending Thrawn would have been stupid no matter my alignment. I didn't really feel the need to pressure him though, within the first day I knew I would be voting him based on his inactivity and decided not to waste my day with a vote on thrawn. I pressured around and tried to get something done instead.

On January 29 2013 00:42 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 09:22 Promethelax wrote:
On January 26 2013 09:18 Vivax wrote:
That's good news! Marv is on town's side!


Too quick to believe marv. Miller in c9++ is in 40% of games. Look at the bugs/palmar argument in YAN. There is a good reason for scum to claim miller too.

##Vote: Vivax



Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 20:02 Promethelax wrote:
Clearly it does not make I p scummiest in my eyes. JX is scummiest.

In the shower I had a thought he wants us to distrust Marc's miller claim. Scum want that.


@ Promethelax

What changed your mind about marv's miller claim between these two posts ?

Nothing? Those are consistent with my opinion and I have explained this in thread already.

On January 29 2013 01:01 ghost_403 wrote:
@djo: You gonna give me a good reason why you're planning on shooting me? I can't really argue again "meh, I don't really see any better scum targets", especially when I've been pushing the two scum that I've found all game long. Do you disagree with my reads?

So I am still scum? I'd like an updated case from you on the off chance that djo saves your life; you here call me (I think) scum. Not probable scum. Not Scummy. Scum. So yeah, write a real case.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 28 2013 18:45 GMT
#991
[20:58] <supersoooooo> ^_^
[21:01] <supersoooooo> ahm
[21:02] <supersoooooo> how long does it take to organize this channel ^_^
[21:02] <supersoooooo> did you follow the thread?
[21:02] <supersoooooo> i wasn't at home, but i catched up pretty quickly, since the game has only like 10 pages...
[21:03] <supersoooooo> sharrant and ghost haven't posted yet. Thrawn has small 2-3 posts
[21:03] <supersoooooo> hapa has 1 filterpage
[21:04] <supersoooooo> vivax, iamp, prom have 3 pages, djodref has even 4...
[21:05] <supersoooooo> there is no pressure in this town. Marvel quit and VE never has a plan
[21:06] <supersoooooo> i think a townhapa should be able to create a better atmosphere than this
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> sry
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> I wasn't getting
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> notifications for this
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> I think
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> thrawn is 100% scum
[21:30] <supersoooooo> yes. My plan is to cozy him around a little for the next 24 hours and get him lynched d1 if he doesn't shape up
[21:30] <supersoooooo> i don't want to put too much pressure on him
[21:31] <supersoooooo> i mean i want to give him the oportunity to shape up without pressure
[21:31] <supersoooooo> if he does that, i think he's town
[21:31] <supersoooooo> but if he doesnt, he's a really save choice for d1
[21:31] <@MommyDearest> ye




EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 28 2013 18:47 GMT
#992
I lost the discussion about VE.
I btw convinced my other half. Our official read on him is town.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
January 28 2013 19:11 GMT
#993
Do you have more supersoft?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 28 2013 19:44 GMT
#994
Wtf is that even allowed?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 28 2013 19:44 GMT
#995
r u scum VE?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 28 2013 19:46 GMT
#996
No. I'm not.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 28 2013 19:50 GMT
#997
okay then please explain me your "wtf" post.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 28 2013 20:13 GMT
#998
yeah it is VE Bugs and SS are the hydra, posting thier chat logs is like one of us posting our thought processes. You can believe it or not but that is the explanation given by EmileZola for 'his' change in reads.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 28 2013 20:41 GMT
#999
I just didn't know if posting chat logs like that is allowed that's all. That seems like...not fair somehow. Doesn't it?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 28 2013 21:08 GMT
#1000
thats because i am like confirmed town in your eyes now, right?
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