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On January 27 2013 19:57 Promethelax wrote:
Oh hey JX. Awesome timing. Thrawn is Tfunk.
I already said I misinterpreted x's post. Y u no read?
I thought thrawn was probably scum because of that scummy post by you and your strong defence of him.
I can't find any games by tfunk. Did he play any?
On January 27 2013 13:27 Promethelax wrote:
You haven't pushed EZ. You said you would kill thrawn. I misinterpreted your stance I guess. Please update your EZ read.
I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that you said two things which aren't congruent.
I can't call djo on his bs after he vanishes. When he comes back I can. And I'll be here since I'm working for another six hours.
Also: Hapa, do you really thing mr Z wrote the above post? It doesn't sound like him at all.
I couldn't find that either
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nvm found it. I was looking to far back
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On January 27 2013 11:18 xsksc wrote:
yeah. nothing that i haven't already raised in the thread though.
-Vivax/hapa looking townie to me.
-thrawn/ghost hardlurking.
-emilezola scum.
Was this the one?
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oh shit nevermind. Please call him thrawn and not tfunk
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Lol, sorry, I like calling him Tfunk.
The hell does your first post on this page mean? Scummy post by who makes thrawn scum?who defended him?
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And JX go read EZ's most recent post. Does that read like mr Z to you? Why smurf and reveal yourself in you second (ish) post?
This is super important. I want answers from everyone who has played with mrZ recently.
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On January 27 2013 01:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Noted.
Djodref I'd like you to summarize your case against me if you really think I'm scum sir.
Here are the reasons why I think VE is scum. First is his entrance post in the thread. Let's have a look at his latest entrance posts.
Hero Mini Mafia -> scum
On December 10 2012 09:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Gawrsh hi guys I'm town! ^^
TL LVIII -> town
On January 03 2013 07:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi there guys. I am town.
Here -> town
On January 26 2013 09:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm here...was playing GoMe
I'm town HURRAY!
Marv Miller?
:/
It's a matter of sobriety. As town, VE is much more sober than scum. For example, he likes to use Caps Lock, but he uses it more as scum than as town. For reference, you can compare his two filters in Hero Mini Mafia (clicky) and TL Mafia LVIII (also clicky).
And why should he be exceptionally happy to be town ? It's not like his last town game was heaven on earth...
One difference between VE town and scum games is also is activity. I'm not satisfied with VE activity so far. So I don't like this post at all. Him waiting for other players input as an excuse to do nothing.
On January 26 2013 11:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Cool...well, I'm waiting on a response from Vivax and for the inactive players to put something down in black and sky-blue. I'm gonna go watch Ted with my wife. See y'all lata.
I don't like this post as well, because it reminds me of a lot of posts like this in Hero Mini Mafia.
On January 26 2013 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
SCUM SLIPS ARE REAL! THEY'RE REAL IAM
One other difference between town VE and scum VE is that scum VE is much more derpy in his cases than town VE, at least in my eyes. So I think that his reason to vote iamp is weak, and thus makes him scum. It's not like iamp questions are always very precise and helpful in his town games.
+ Show Spoiler [for reference] +On January 26 2013 17:35 VisceraEyes wrote:Okay so far I think iamp is the scummiest. Earlier he asked me if I was serious about my accusation of thrawn. Looking back I noticed this in his filter. Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 09:47 iamperfection wrote:On January 26 2013 09:22 Promethelax wrote:On January 26 2013 09:18 Vivax wrote:
That's good news! Marv is on town's side! Too quick to believe marv. Miller in c9++ is in 40% of games. Look at the bugs/palmar argument in YAN. There is a good reason for scum to claim miller too. ##Vote: Vivax was this a serious vote because if it is very weak Vivax been very posty after having an avenue to not be with his pre game post. I want to know if you actually think vivax is mafia when you get back. Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 11:20 iamperfection wrote:
your vote on vivax serious prom? In this post he appears to be suspicious of prom for his vote on Vivax. What strikes me however is that if he's suspicious of Prom, he's basically telling Prom how to answer to make himself less suspicious. Why would he do this as a townie? As scum I can see reason for him to coach Prom through to the correct response regardless of Prom's alignment, but why would iamp do that as town? Especially given his response to my calling him out: Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 11:28 iamperfection wrote:On January 26 2013 11:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
iamp do you have any opinions on what's going on or do you plan to uselessly ask people if "they're serious" all game? Well if i told you how i think he would answer with regards to his alignment it would kind of defeat the purpose. It would kind of at that. ##Vote: iamperfection
One last thing is that the Mr. Zentor rule is similar to he Chezinu rule. The first guy to attack Mr. Zentor is mafia. I have no idea what to make of Emile so far, but statistically, he has more chances to be town than to be scum.
So I find very strange that VE wants to policy-lynch him, especially on the basis of him being a troll.
Mr. Zentor is readable and baits out mafia players (see WitchCraft and British Empire) so he is useful in his way.
On January 27 2013 08:04 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 07:55 Hapahauli wrote:On January 27 2013 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hapahauli? Yeah I'm not lynching Hapahauli today.. Just putting that out there.
I can easily lynch MrZ at this juncture.
@Hapa
I agree that in his first post he pointed out a weak vote. The problem I have is in his insistence that he answer the question "Are you serious about this vote?" after he explained that he thought it was scummy. It's asinine, the order is wrong to achieve what he's claiming is the intent. He would need the answer to "are you serious about this vote" BEFORE explaining what is weak about it in order to glean any kind of information from the question...and he does it TWICE. Why do you want to lynch MrZ? Is it because you think he's scum, or because you think he's a troll? As for the Iamp quotes, I think you're going waaaaaaay too deep into it. I still don't understand how ordering a question is scummy. Many people don't give too much thought to specific objectives when questioning people, and just prefer to confront bad logic. Because he's a troll. :|
That's why I think VE is scum. And sorry for the delay, I was at a wedding today.
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Also, given the low activity of the town today, I think the safest play is to consolidate on a policy lynch today.
I think invoking "lynch a lurker" on thrawn is a good choice, because thrawn is usually very active as town and much less as scum. He avoided to contribute when he was here, made a joke and disappear. So I think the chances for him to flip scum are non negligible.
Hopefully, we can go after a target which is going to offer us more information, but we are going to have a very short time to consolidate and discuss, and the votes are scattered a lot at the moment.
tl;dr
I would like us to lynch VE, but I'm going to consolidate on thrawn if needed.
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So guys, are scum slips real? If yes we lynch djo. Anyone who can tell me why gets a cookie.
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Congratulations, you failed the test. Now answer the questions I asked you.
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I am pretty sure that thrawn isn't lurking... I think he's just afk.
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On January 27 2013 01:39 yamato77 wrote:
Obviously I'm miller
Still catching up, but in the first few pages I already want to kill iamp for being an overly accusatory shit but we'll see how that goes.
Yam's only post this game. The fuck is this shit? Get back here and show me your tunnel.
EZ answer my questions.
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On January 27 2013 20:43 Promethelax wrote:
So guys, are scum slips real? If yes we lynch djo. Anyone who can tell me why gets a cookie.
I'm not even scum :o
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Hey Prome !
Except for the slip (I saw it now), what do you think of my case ?
And I have nothing to say for it except that it is a slip. It happens to town and mafia players...
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Your case is crap. VE is an excitable player, one of the few who enjoys rolling scum (or so I'm told) so his posting levels are not alignment indicative. You tell me his posts remind you of ones in hero. I obsed that game as scum essentially (just talking to Marv, not in obs) so please point out his posts there and how they differ from posts in his town games.
That was one of the worst cases I've ever seen. You managed to not say anything about VE's alignment that I found worth listening to. I have him as null and he stayed, firmly, null reading what you wrote. Go out and do your research right and we can talk again.
Now go look at EZ's posts and tell me they do or do not seem to come from mr z.
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On January 27 2013 21:15 Promethelax wrote:
Your case is crap. VE is an excitable player, one of the few who enjoys rolling scum (or so I'm told) so his posting levels are not alignment indicative. You tell me his posts remind you of ones in hero. I obsed that game as scum essentially (just talking to Marv, not in obs) so please point out his posts there and how they differ from posts in his town games.
That was one of the worst cases I've ever seen. You managed to not say anything about VE's alignment that I found worth listening to. I have him as null and he stayed, firmly, null reading what you wrote. Go out and do your research right and we can talk again.
Now go look at EZ's posts and tell me they do or do not seem to come from mr z.
Come on, he was much less active as scum that as town in the last games he played.
He was absent from Chrono, and it was almost the same in Hero Mini Mafia. It's easy to compare this to the length of his filter in LVIII. And he was also very inactive when he replaced Hiro in my scumteam in Looney Mini Mafia. I think activity is a good tell, even for him, but I admit it's not a strong tell because it's the week-end.
What did you think of his case against iamp ? What is worth a vote ?
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Maybe in the early game. VE is good, he knows the benefits of a pressure vote with overstated reasons in the early game. Null.
Does emilezola read like mr. Z to you? Y/n?
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Regarding Emile Zola, he didn't deny being Mr. Zentor, so I assumed it was him.
One liners with some trolly comments, it could be Mr. Zentor. Like these ones
On January 27 2013 06:56 EmileZola wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 06:53 xsksc wrote:
I'm inclined to agree with him actually Emile, your filter isn't doing you any favours. :| For you it's Mister Zola.
On January 27 2013 09:28 EmileZola wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 07:07 Hapahauli wrote:
Just to test things;
@ EmileZola//MrZ
Gimme a summary of our history from Witchcraft Mafia. Some verification would be cool. oh shit... history... Did we make out?
On January 27 2013 10:22 EmileZola wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 09:30 Promethelax wrote:
Okay Hapa, why do I have you as not scum right now? (Srsly)
Mr Zola, could you tell us truthfully who you are please and thanks. Assume I know your deepest secret and that you shouldn't lie to me. I am Batman.
And Mr. Zentor is really a mafia bait when he is town.
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