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On February 04 2013 19:13 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 19:12 JieXian wrote: Meaning I claimed green from Sharrant. A blue claim from Sharrant would be a dead tell. I've bolded the scummy things in this post to help you improve next time you roll scum.
? I'm saying that I didn't fuckup with my claim. I fucked up with my gambit.
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N1. I was saying that if VV is 2 one shot VGs, CC is 2 one-shot cops or 1 multi-shot cop. I don't see why you are excluding the possibiilty of there being 2 one-shot cops.
I want to lynch iamp today. I wanted to lynch Mochsta next if needed but he appears to be trying really hard to figure out the game so I'm having my doubts about Vivax. Really hard to tell.
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On February 04 2013 20:11 Mocsta wrote:As we know, this is your defense of Sharrant Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 19:00 JieXian wrote: I wasn't sure about Sharrant earlier, especially since he has only 2 pages of filter but what sticks out to me is:
I don't think scum will bother posting that wall of text (not that he doesn't have a point) about VE if he was going to be shot anyway Apparently you defended him because you got a cop check on him? These are the subsequent posts in your filter: Ctrl+F "Sharrant" Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 19:02 JieXian wrote: If either Sharrant or Jay want's to lynch me for lurking they'd have to look at the number of pages in their own filter compared to mine and proceed to lynch themselves first. Sounds to me, your having a dig @ Sharrant, even though hes meant to be confirmed town? Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 19:32 JieXian wrote: If not for the miller claim we might be all over Yamato because he has only 2 pages of filter, like Sharrant.
Problem is, Prom claims he had played like this before (uninvolved) as miller so he's in the same safe boat as Djo atm. Again having a dig @ Sharrant, but apparently he is confirmed town? When are you proposing he is GF.. your not! Then you have the case against Vivax http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=394344¤tpage=66#1310Oddly enough, you decide to defend Sharrant here (even though you just been digging into him the past 2 posts) Vivax points on you pretty much confirm you as scum anyways. Key Points JieXian, I hate to be so cocky, but I think you might as well concede as well. The evidence is not in your favour.
I was irritated at Sharrant and made a general statement to get him to piss off for calling me a lurker. I said that the miller claim saved Yamato's ass for so many days despite having him play the same way as Sharrant.....
Never once did I say anything close to "Sharrant is scum"
Why counter claim? 2 cops are perfectly possible.
I did say it was a pressure vote. Never once did I deny that. I kept it there after he made that comeback post.
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On February 05 2013 00:11 Vivax wrote: The funny thing is that JX knows who the SK is, and he's asking for iamp lynch.
That's giving me thoughts atm. But JX, if he's indeed scum, could tell us anything and we wouldn't know if he favours town or the SK.
Why lynch SK before scum?
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On February 04 2013 19:57 Mocsta wrote:Seriously JieXian, your not doing yourself any favours. Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 00:22 JieXian wrote: @Djo : My only confirmed town read is iamp, unsure about the rest.
& now Quite a stark change in read. How did this transition occur?
You posted a whole lot of stuff splashing doubt on him. I wanted to lynch you after yamato but I changed my mind.
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On February 04 2013 09:09 Mocsta wrote:Now I haven't filter dived JX yet (at work, so will have to do it tonight); but, I had some problems with what he wrote. Specifically if he was 1-shot cop that already used power, he is now a VT (a la Vivax); there is nothing to hide from claiming (esp. when requested by EZ) and later again by Djo. Also Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 07:58 JieXian wrote: Djo and Mochsta look like they may very well lynch iamp and I'd still have a chance if I were to test my luck with that, especially with the possibility of there being an SK
The phrasing of this is completely off. Town dont want a chance to test luck. They want to prove innocence.(e.g. look at my reaction when Djo trying to confirm me via setup speculation; "Thanks but no thanks"). This to me just stinks of scum. So im sticking with JX being scum for this lynch. If SK is present deal with it Day5. ##Vote: JieXian
dude I was explaining why I had more to gain as scum if I had claimed VT........
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On February 04 2013 07:58 JieXian wrote: Secondly, were I mafia, nothing is stopping my from claiming VT right away. Djo and Mochsta look like they may very well lynch iamp and I'd still have a chance if I were to test my luck with that, especially with the possibility of there being an SK
I'm down to lynch in the following order : iamp > mochsta (if needed) > prome (if needed)
Now I'm back to sleep, go to work later.
wth?
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On February 02 2013 19:06 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 01:39 Mocsta wrote: May I ask why iamp is your most confirmed town read?
Is this your sole reason? Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 12:31 yamato77 wrote: Yes, iamp, I totally want to sheep your opinion of people based on who annoys you in the game. On January 29 2013 12:45 iamperfection wrote: you do realize thrawn annoyed me the most so thats why i killed him right[/hr]
On January 30 2013 19:23 JieXian wrote: Iamp, looks like town to me, I've never played with him before but he also posts the same way in Cheesecake, lots of 1-2 liners.
What stand out is his tunnel on thrawn D1 followed by this post
He's not even trying to claim townie credits were he scum, for bussing thrawn.[/hr]
Or has your read developed further as the game progressed? On February 02 2013 17:24 JieXian wrote:That was the most telling one. I can't find anything nearly as strong to argue for xsk or yamato. I mean they were basically not around at all @JieXianThis is my interpretation of how the Thrawn lynch initiated (if you want to take iamp as the catalyst) - technically EZ voted first. Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 20:04 Mocsta wrote:
iamperfection I didnt read too much into initiating the Thrawn bandwagon either. I think it started off as a light comment, and then due to continued inactivity, became the bandwagon it did.
Do you think otherwise? You were in the moment, I wasn't; perhaps it felt like he was a genuine catalyst as opposed to being cheeky; perhaps that why you were the first to join the vote. If it was a light comment that then turned into a lynch: - can you see reasons for iamp not to try and soak town cred?
- If Thrawn is useless scum as others have pointed out; can you see reasons for iamp to be "annoyed" at him?
- Do you think killing annoying townies = scum hunting? If so, why isnt Vivax lynched?
This post changed my mind
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On February 05 2013 00:44 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2013 00:35 JieXian wrote: (1) Never once did I say anything close to "Sharrant is scum"
(2) Why counter claim? 2 cops are perfectly possible. (1) Therein lies the problem. Who is scum to you JX? Your filter has a marked lack of actual scum hunting; you thrown iamp name in recently, based on what? He was your only confirmed town, and now you are recommending him for lynch? On what grounds? Your good mate Toad, says, early game, dont discuss town reads. For mafia, they know the town reads and dont have to lie - its easy; its much harder for mafia to build a case against someone they know is town. So yes, you didn't say Sharrant is scum; but you stood up for him, and then suggested you would be comfortable with his lynch due to his low page filter count. Thats not normal for a cop check. (2) Counter claim has already been discussed in subequent posts (i.e. You are a VT, and can confirm a townie to prevent their mislynch, or mis-vig.... if you actually checked Sharrant and cleared him.. Prome coulda used the bullet on Yamato. Why did this situation NOT occur?
1 In your quote I asked them to lynch themselves, it's akin to asking them to fuck off >_>
2 No idea there were more VGs
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I want to lynch iamp because the only thing stopping me earlier was that 1 post I quoted. When I gave him my town read xskc was looking like shit before you came, yamato well we all know about him.
On to iamp: His latest posts are involving him posturing to lynch anyone he wants but Prom.
On February 02 2013 00:24 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 00:22 Djodref wrote: Iamp
Why do you refuse to give town reads ? Do you realize that we are almost sure to nail mafia with my plan? yeah i don't trust your so called "plans"
On February 02 2013 00:49 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 00:46 JieXian wrote:Someone answer me please On February 02 2013 00:22 JieXian wrote: @Djo : My only confirmed town read is iamp, unsure about the rest.
Correct me if I'm wrong but does Vivax have anything to lose as mafia by claiming 1 shot DT? I don't know how the c9++ setup works. you go look at the way he claimed an tell me if it looks like a calculated scum claim.
he slipped that he was dt for god sakes.[/QUOTE]
On February 02 2013 01:35 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 01:30 Mocsta wrote:On February 02 2013 01:27 iamperfection wrote:On February 02 2013 01:26 Djodref wrote: @ iamp
Could we agree on this one ? Two scum players are in the following group of players: iamp, Mocsta, JieXian and yamato. Why is JieXian the scummiest from your point of view among JieXian, Mocsta and yamato ? He is not moc and yamato are but they have claims and checks show me what setup we are in djo Riddle me this. (in general)
What is a stronger heuristic for you (for a scum read) The miller claim or the dt green check
green check probably lessout for a bit
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To elaborate:
On February 04 2013 07:58 JieXian wrote: Secondly, were I mafia, nothing is stopping my from claiming VT right away. Djo and Mochsta look like they may very well lynch iamp and I'd still have a chance if I were to test my luck with that, especially with the possibility of there being an SK
I'm down to lynch in the following order : iamp > mochsta (if needed) > prome (if needed)
Now I'm back to sleep, go to work later.
On February 03 2013 14:47 Mocsta wrote: hmm its very disconcerting JX has been as present as Yamato's defense.
Just when I was starting to feel better about him too.
On February 02 2013 19:31 Djodref wrote:so yeah GG y u no concede ? The scum team is iamp and yamato, game over guys 
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Let me bold the correct part:
On February 04 2013 07:58 JieXian wrote: Secondly, were I mafia, nothing is stopping my from claiming VT right away. Djo and Mochsta look like they may very well lynch iamp and I'd still have a chance if I were to test my luck with that, especially with the possibility of there being an SK
I'm down to lynch in the following order : iamp > mochsta (if needed) > prome (if needed)
Now I'm back to sleep, go to work later.
On February 03 2013 14:47 Mocsta wrote: hmm its very disconcerting JX has been as present as Yamato's defense.
Just when I was starting to feel better about him too.
On February 02 2013 19:31 Djodref wrote:so yeah GG y u no concede ? The scum team is iamp and yamato, game over guys 
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You really hurt my feelings there mocha, fuck you 
should have claimed vt and not been a hero right
did I dig my own grave there
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don't feel like wasting your time anymore
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I was so close to snap claiming VT
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nah the game is over, i asked toad, which was why i claimed in the thread
i didn't shoot and hoped you guys would confirm sk
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moreover toad said that the claim sucked but marv said it didn't suck
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btw is it bad etiquette to fight all the way
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http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/FgVZnHgdDE3
There's really nothing to read in the QT. I was the only one there
My original plan was to claim VT since Djo and mochsta might just believe me and I'll maybe shoot prome to get another mislynch.
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