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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
February 04 2013 15:44 GMT
#2241
On February 05 2013 00:26 Promethelax wrote:
scum forgetting night kills is almost unprecedented. Only exceptions I can think of are LC (never forget) and MTG I.


Kush and me also fucked up in Witchcraft Mini Mafia
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 04 2013 15:44 GMT
#2242
On February 05 2013 00:35 JieXian wrote:
(1) Never once did I say anything close to "Sharrant is scum"

(2) Why counter claim? 2 cops are perfectly possible.


(1) Therein lies the problem. Who is scum to you JX? Your filter has a marked lack of actual scum hunting; you thrown iamp name in recently, based on what? He was your only confirmed town, and now you are recommending him for lynch? On what grounds?

Your good mate Toad, says, early game, dont discuss town reads. For mafia, they know the town reads and dont have to lie - its easy; its much harder for mafia to build a case against someone they know is town.

So yes, you didn't say Sharrant is scum; but you stood up for him, and then suggested you would be comfortable with his lynch due to his low page filter count. Thats not normal for a cop check.

(2) Counter claim has already been discussed in subequent posts (i.e. You are a VT, and can confirm a townie to prevent their mislynch, or mis-vig.... if you actually checked Sharrant and cleared him.. Prome coulda used the bullet on Yamato. Why did this situation NOT occur?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 04 2013 15:45 GMT
#2243
On February 05 2013 00:39 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 19:57 Mocsta wrote:
Seriously JieXian, your not doing yourself any favours.

On February 02 2013 00:22 JieXian wrote:
@Djo : My only confirmed town read is iamp, unsure about the rest.


& now
On February 04 2013 19:41 JieXian wrote:
I want to lynch iamp today.


Quite a stark change in read.
How did this transition occur?


You posted a whole lot of stuff splashing doubt on him. I wanted to lynch you after yamato but I changed my mind.


LOL.. i see.

Iamp is on the money. you defend, but suggest noone else, cant even mount a case on iamp yourself.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 04 2013 15:46 GMT
#2244
On February 04 2013 09:09 Mocsta wrote:
Now I haven't filter dived JX yet (at work, so will have to do it tonight); but, I had some problems with what he wrote.

Specifically if he was 1-shot cop that already used power, he is now a VT (a la Vivax); there is nothing to hide from claiming (esp. when requested by EZ) and later again by Djo.

Also
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 07:58 JieXian wrote:
Djo and Mochsta look like they
may very well lynch iamp and I'd still have a chance if I were to test my luck with that, especially with
the possibility of there being an SK

The phrasing of this is completely off. Town dont want a chance to test luck. They want to prove innocence.(e.g. look at my reaction when Djo trying to confirm me via setup speculation; "Thanks but no thanks"). This to me just stinks of scum.

So im sticking with JX being scum for this lynch.

If SK is present deal with it Day5.

##Vote: JieXian


dude I was explaining why I had more to gain as scum if I had claimed VT........
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 04 2013 15:47 GMT
#2245
On February 04 2013 07:58 JieXian wrote:
Secondly, were I mafia, nothing is stopping my from claiming VT right away. Djo and Mochsta look like they
may very well lynch iamp and I'd still have a chance if I were to test my luck with that, especially with
the possibility of there being an SK

I'm down to lynch in the following order : iamp > mochsta (if needed) > prome (if needed)

Now I'm back to sleep, go to work later.


wth?
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 04 2013 15:47 GMT
#2246
On February 02 2013 19:06 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 01:39 Mocsta wrote:
May I ask why iamp is your most confirmed town read?

Is this your sole reason?
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 12:31 yamato77 wrote:
Yes, iamp, I totally want to sheep your opinion of people based on who annoys you in the game.
On January 29 2013 12:45 iamperfection wrote:
you do realize thrawn annoyed me the most so thats why i killed him right[/hr]

On January 30 2013 19:23 JieXian wrote:
Iamp, looks like town to me, I've never played with him before but he also posts the same way in Cheesecake, lots of 1-2 liners.

What stand out is his tunnel on thrawn D1 followed by this post

He's not even trying to claim townie credits were he scum, for bussing thrawn.[/hr]

Or has your read developed further as the game progressed?

On February 02 2013 17:24 JieXian wrote:
That was the most telling one. I can't find anything nearly as strong to argue for xsk or yamato. I mean they were basically not around at all


@JieXian
This is my interpretation of how the Thrawn lynch initiated (if you want to take iamp as the catalyst) - technically EZ voted first.
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 20:04 Mocsta wrote:

iamperfection
I didnt read too much into initiating the Thrawn bandwagon either. I think it started off as a light comment, and then due to continued inactivity, became the bandwagon it did.

Do you think otherwise?
You were in the moment, I wasn't; perhaps it felt like he was a genuine catalyst as opposed to being cheeky; perhaps that why you were the first to join the vote.

If it was a light comment that then turned into a lynch:
  • can you see reasons for iamp not to try and soak town cred?

  • If Thrawn is useless scum as others have pointed out; can you see reasons for iamp to be "annoyed" at him?

  • Do you think killing annoying townies = scum hunting? If so, why isnt Vivax lynched?



This post changed my mind
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 04 2013 15:49 GMT
#2247
How did that change your mind.

I didnt accuse iamp of anything. I asked you to think about it and share your thoughts.

You have not.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 04 2013 15:52 GMT
#2248
On February 05 2013 00:46 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 09:09 Mocsta wrote:
Now I haven't filter dived JX yet (at work, so will have to do it tonight); but, I had some problems with what he wrote.

Specifically if he was 1-shot cop that already used power, he is now a VT (a la Vivax); there is nothing to hide from claiming (esp. when requested by EZ) and later again by Djo.

Also
On February 04 2013 07:58 JieXian wrote:
Djo and Mochsta look like they
may very well lynch iamp and I'd still have a chance if I were to test my luck with that, especially with
the possibility of there being an SK

The phrasing of this is completely off. Town dont want a chance to test luck. They want to prove innocence.(e.g. look at my reaction when Djo trying to confirm me via setup speculation; "Thanks but no thanks"). This to me just stinks of scum.

So im sticking with JX being scum for this lynch.

If SK is present deal with it Day5.

##Vote: JieXian


dude I was explaining why I had more to gain as scum if I had claimed VT........

I dont think claiming VT has anything to do with that post. its targeting two specific issue, neither of which explains why you did not claimed VT.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 04 2013 16:05 GMT
#2249
On February 05 2013 00:44 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 00:35 JieXian wrote:
(1) Never once did I say anything close to "Sharrant is scum"

(2) Why counter claim? 2 cops are perfectly possible.


(1) Therein lies the problem. Who is scum to you JX? Your filter has a marked lack of actual scum hunting; you thrown iamp name in recently, based on what? He was your only confirmed town, and now you are recommending him for lynch? On what grounds?

Your good mate Toad, says, early game, dont discuss town reads. For mafia, they know the town reads and dont have to lie - its easy; its much harder for mafia to build a case against someone they know is town.

So yes, you didn't say Sharrant is scum; but you stood up for him, and then suggested you would be comfortable with his lynch due to his low page filter count. Thats not normal for a cop check.

(2) Counter claim has already been discussed in subequent posts (i.e. You are a VT, and can confirm a townie to prevent their mislynch, or mis-vig.... if you actually checked Sharrant and cleared him.. Prome coulda used the bullet on Yamato. Why did this situation NOT occur?


1 In your quote I asked them to lynch themselves, it's akin to asking them to fuck off >_>

2 No idea there were more VGs

=======

I want to lynch iamp because the only thing stopping me earlier was that 1 post I quoted. When I gave him my town read xskc was looking like shit before you came, yamato well we all know about him.

On to iamp: His latest posts are involving him posturing to lynch anyone he wants but Prom.

On February 02 2013 00:24 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 00:22 Djodref wrote:
Iamp

Why do you refuse to give town reads ?
Do you realize that we are almost sure to nail mafia with my plan?

yeah

i don't trust your so called "plans"



On February 02 2013 00:49 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 00:46 JieXian wrote:
Someone answer me please

On February 02 2013 00:22 JieXian wrote:
@Djo : My only confirmed town read is iamp, unsure about the rest.

Correct me if I'm wrong but does Vivax have anything to lose as mafia by claiming 1 shot DT? I don't know how the c9++ setup works.



you go look at the way he claimed an tell me if it looks like a calculated scum claim.

he slipped that he was dt for god sakes.[/QUOTE]



On February 02 2013 01:35 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 01:30 Mocsta wrote:
On February 02 2013 01:27 iamperfection wrote:
On February 02 2013 01:26 Djodref wrote:
@ iamp

Could we agree on this one ?
Two scum players are in the following group of players: iamp, Mocsta, JieXian and yamato.
Why is JieXian the scummiest from your point of view among JieXian, Mocsta and yamato ?

He is not

moc and yamato are but they have claims and checks

show me what setup we are in djo


Riddle me this. (in general)



What is a stronger heuristic for you (for a scum read)

The miller claim

or the dt green check



green check probably less

out for a bit

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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
February 04 2013 16:10 GMT
#2250
On February 05 2013 01:05 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 00:44 Mocsta wrote:
On February 05 2013 00:35 JieXian wrote:
(1) Never once did I say anything close to "Sharrant is scum"

(2) Why counter claim? 2 cops are perfectly possible.


(1) Therein lies the problem. Who is scum to you JX? Your filter has a marked lack of actual scum hunting; you thrown iamp name in recently, based on what? He was your only confirmed town, and now you are recommending him for lynch? On what grounds?

Your good mate Toad, says, early game, dont discuss town reads. For mafia, they know the town reads and dont have to lie - its easy; its much harder for mafia to build a case against someone they know is town.

So yes, you didn't say Sharrant is scum; but you stood up for him, and then suggested you would be comfortable with his lynch due to his low page filter count. Thats not normal for a cop check.

(2) Counter claim has already been discussed in subequent posts (i.e. You are a VT, and can confirm a townie to prevent their mislynch, or mis-vig.... if you actually checked Sharrant and cleared him.. Prome coulda used the bullet on Yamato. Why did this situation NOT occur?


1 In your quote I asked them to lynch themselves, it's akin to asking them to fuck off >_>

2 No idea there were more VGs

=======

I want to lynch iamp because the only thing stopping me earlier was that 1 post I quoted. When I gave him my town read xskc was looking like shit before you came, yamato well we all know about him.

On to iamp: His latest posts are involving him posturing to lynch anyone he wants but Prom.

Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 00:24 iamperfection wrote:
On February 02 2013 00:22 Djodref wrote:
Iamp

Why do you refuse to give town reads ?
Do you realize that we are almost sure to nail mafia with my plan?

yeah

i don't trust your so called "plans"



Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 00:49 iamperfection wrote:
On February 02 2013 00:46 JieXian wrote:
Someone answer me please

On February 02 2013 00:22 JieXian wrote:
@Djo : My only confirmed town read is iamp, unsure about the rest.

Correct me if I'm wrong but does Vivax have anything to lose as mafia by claiming 1 shot DT? I don't know how the c9++ setup works.



you go look at the way he claimed an tell me if it looks like a calculated scum claim.

he slipped that he was dt for god sakes.




On February 02 2013 01:35 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 01:30 Mocsta wrote:
On February 02 2013 01:27 iamperfection wrote:
On February 02 2013 01:26 Djodref wrote:
@ iamp

Could we agree on this one ?
Two scum players are in the following group of players: iamp, Mocsta, JieXian and yamato.
Why is JieXian the scummiest from your point of view among JieXian, Mocsta and yamato ?

He is not

moc and yamato are but they have claims and checks

show me what setup we are in djo


Riddle me this. (in general)



What is a stronger heuristic for you (for a scum read)

The miller claim

or the dt green check



green check probably less

out for a bit

[/QUOTE]
wat
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
February 04 2013 16:12 GMT
#2251
you want me to walk you how to do it jx?

you should probally go like this

iamperfection

he is scum becasue

bs bs bs bsbsbsbsbsbsbs

throw in some quotes

more bs bs bs bs bs bs

and then vote
------------------------------

you probably would have had a better chance.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 04 2013 16:14 GMT
#2252
To elaborate:

On February 04 2013 07:58 JieXian wrote:
Secondly, were I mafia, nothing is stopping my from claiming VT right away. Djo and Mochsta look like they
may very well lynch iamp and I'd still have a chance if I were to test my luck with that, especially with
the possibility of there being an SK

I'm down to lynch in the following order : iamp > mochsta (if needed) > prome (if needed)

Now I'm back to sleep, go to work later.



On February 03 2013 14:47 Mocsta wrote:
hmm its very disconcerting JX has been as present as Yamato's defense.

Just when I was starting to feel better about him too.


On February 02 2013 19:31 Djodref wrote:
so yeah

GG y u no concede ?
The scum team is iamp and yamato, game over guys


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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
February 04 2013 16:16 GMT
#2253
On February 05 2013 01:14 JieXian wrote:
To elaborate:

Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 07:58 JieXian wrote:
Secondly, were I mafia, nothing is stopping my from claiming VT right away. Djo and Mochsta look like they
may very well lynch iamp and I'd still have a chance if I were to test my luck with that, especially with
the possibility of there being an SK

I'm down to lynch in the following order : iamp > mochsta (if needed) > prome (if needed)

Now I'm back to sleep, go to work later.



Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 14:47 Mocsta wrote:
hmm its very disconcerting JX has been as present as Yamato's defense.

Just when I was starting to feel better about him too.


Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 19:31 Djodref wrote:
so yeah

GG y u no concede ?
The scum team is iamp and yamato, game over guys



your just quoting shit your not elaborating on anything.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
February 04 2013 16:21 GMT
#2254
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 05 2013 01:12 iamperfection wrote:
you want me to walk you how to do it jx?

you should probally go like this

iamperfection

he is scum becasue

bs bs bs bsbsbsbsbsbsbs

throw in some quotes

more bs bs bs bs bs bs

and then vote
------------------------------

you probably would have had a better chance.


I lol'd
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 04 2013 16:26 GMT
#2255
Let me bold the correct part:

On February 04 2013 07:58 JieXian wrote:
Secondly, were I mafia, nothing is stopping my from claiming VT right away. Djo and Mochsta look like they
may very well lynch iamp and I'd still have a chance if I were to test my luck with that,
especially with
the possibility of there being an SK

I'm down to lynch in the following order : iamp > mochsta (if needed) > prome (if needed)

Now I'm back to sleep, go to work later.



On February 03 2013 14:47 Mocsta wrote:
hmm its very disconcerting JX has been as present as Yamato's defense.

Just when I was starting to feel better about him too.


On February 02 2013 19:31 Djodref wrote:
so yeah

GG y u no concede ?
The scum team is iamp and yamato, game over guys

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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
February 04 2013 16:28 GMT
#2256
ok your just trolling now jx

gg no re

tell us who you shot
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 04 2013 16:30 GMT
#2257
On February 05 2013 01:26 JieXian wrote:
Let me bold the correct part:

Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 07:58 JieXian wrote:
Secondly, were I mafia, nothing is stopping my from claiming VT right away. Djo and Mochsta look like they
may very well lynch iamp and I'd still have a chance if I were to test my luck with that,
especially with
the possibility of there being an SK

I'm down to lynch in the following order : iamp > mochsta (if needed) > prome (if needed)

Now I'm back to sleep, go to work later.



Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 14:47 Mocsta wrote:
hmm its very disconcerting JX has been as present as Yamato's defense.

Just when I was starting to feel better about him too.


Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 19:31 Djodref wrote:
so yeah

GG y u no concede ?
The scum team is iamp and yamato, game over guys


WOW.. that changes EVERYTHING
##Unvote: JieXian
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 04 2013 16:31 GMT
#2258
hmm who to vote for now?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 04 2013 16:31 GMT
#2259
OHH i know

+ Show Spoiler +

##Vote: JieXian
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 04 2013 17:25 GMT
#2260
You really hurt my feelings there mocha, fuck you

should have claimed vt and not been a hero right

did I dig my own grave there
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