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[QUOTE]On February 04 2013 23:18 Promethelax wrote:
Is Vivax referring to an after this lynch time a scum claim? [quote]
I interpreted as, Vivax believes SK exists, so when scum JX is lynched, game is not concluded.
[quote]multiple one-shot cops are possible. According to Toad. [/QUOTE]
does not change the fact that the behaviour does not meet the role.
As I stated earlier to JX, he had many chances to claim (essentially since Day 2), and was requested directly by Djo and EZ; he chose not to.
This is exacerbated when Sharrant is coming under heat throughout Day2 and Night2; you (Prom) even directly mention a vig choice between Yamato/Sharrant.
He keeps his mouth shut.
Yes the dual one-shot cop is possible; but it certainly did not role that way this game.
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On February 04 2013 23:18 Promethelax wrote:
Is Vivax referring to an after this lynch time a scum claim?
I interpreted as, Vivax believes SK exists, so when scum JX is lynched, game is not concluded.
multiple one-shot cops are possible. According to Toad.
does not change the fact that the behaviour does not meet the role.
As I stated earlier to JX, he had many chances to claim (essentially since Day 2), and was requested directly by Djo and EZ; he chose not to.
This is exacerbated when Sharrant is coming under heat throughout Day2 and Night2; you (Prom) even directly mention a vig choice between Yamato/Sharrant.
He keeps his mouth shut.
Yes the dual one-shot cop is possible; but it certainly did not role that way this game.
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*The only defense I have for JX cop claim*
is Spaghetticus from Newbie 34; he checked zarepath and still included him in his lynch target to try and hide that he was a cop.
But then this is moot due to one-shot nature. He is now a VT; so no reason to hide the claim; and he certainly didnt lure out a RB via pretending to be multi-shot cop (a la Vivax).
So this defense doesnt apply and all past points remain. He can not be cop.
I know im beating the same bush, but figured its good practice for critical thinking.
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Prom is subtly preparing to call me scum for the case that there is an afterlynch.
Interesting.
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Canada7089 Posts
I'm not being subtle about it at all. If game is still going after a scum flip I'm re-looking at you in a big way.
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Riddle me the version where I would claim 1-shot-cop as SK please.
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Canada7089 Posts
well yes, that is why I haven't said you are the sk. Just that based on what you said you went up my list of people to look at. Riddle me the version where marv claims miller as scum. These things can and do happen.
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Canada7089 Posts
But honestly, based on what Toad is telling me about the set-up being town favoured and town needing a nerf while scum got a buff and the game remaining town favoured I have a hard time doubting your claim and a hard time believing there is an sk.
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Yeah there hasn't been an extra kill aside from the ones claimed by vigs.
SK would have had to hold his shot tonight and to be hit by scum at the same time.
I just don't see scum holding theirs though. It's too likely that they hit him if all the claims were honest.
Then maybe SK hit the same targets as scum/vigi N1 and 2.
Or just one night and in the other the SK was one of the vigs.
Or held the shot during Djos' claim and tried to frame Djo in the next night, but hitting Sharrant or EZ.
etc.
I'm expecting an aftermath, given last nights' happenings.
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Canada7089 Posts
sorry maybe I'm a bit dull today but did you not just say you 1)find sk unlikely and 2) expect us to need to find and lynch the sk?
sk shooting VE and EZ makes some sense, those are shots I'd have made as sk. But both of them in a row? Totally randomly? Seems unlikely, though I guess he could have held his shot n1 (best choice) and doublestacked EZ with scum n2.
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The funny thing is that JX knows who the SK is, and he's asking for iamp lynch.
That's giving me thoughts atm. But JX, if he's indeed scum, could tell us anything and we wouldn't know if he favours town or the SK.
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Canada7089 Posts
well it is funny since he is also saying that I am the sk. He can't have it both ways.
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scum play very poor this game.
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Looks like we sticking with 48hr cycle.
*Sigh*
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On February 04 2013 22:59 Djodref wrote:
Hey, I'm around and I'm reading this thread, but I don't feel any motivation to post more evidence against JieXian.
His claim is fake, so I'm pretty sure he is the last scum. I don't think we have a SK in this game and I suspect JieXian to have miss the NK because he was absent.
I'll put some time in to find a possible SK if we don't reach the endgame when JX is lynched. But for now I just want to take a break !
.... he definitely didn't forget to nk he posted right before the deadline
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Canada7089 Posts
scum forgetting night kills is almost unprecedented. Only exceptions I can think of are LC (never forget) and MTG I.
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On February 04 2013 20:11 Mocsta wrote:As we know, this is your defense of Sharrant Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 19:00 JieXian wrote:
I wasn't sure about Sharrant earlier, especially since he has only 2 pages of filter but what sticks out to me is:
I don't think scum will bother posting that wall of text (not that he doesn't have a point) about VE if he was going to be shot anyway Apparently you defended him because you got a cop check on him? These are the subsequent posts in your filter: Ctrl+F "Sharrant" Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 19:02 JieXian wrote:
If either Sharrant or Jay want's to lynch me for lurking they'd have to look at the number of pages in their own filter compared to mine and proceed to lynch themselves first. Sounds to me, your having a dig @ Sharrant, even though hes meant to be confirmed town? Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 19:32 JieXian wrote:
If not for the miller claim we might be all over Yamato because he has only 2 pages of filter, like Sharrant.
Problem is, Prom claims he had played like this before (uninvolved) as miller so he's in the same safe boat as Djo atm. Again having a dig @ Sharrant, but apparently he is confirmed town? When are you proposing he is GF.. your not! Then you have the case against Vivax http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=394344¤tpage=66#1310Oddly enough, you decide to defend Sharrant here (even though you just been digging into him the past 2 posts) Vivax points on you pretty much confirm you as scum anyways. Key Points JieXian, I hate to be so cocky, but I think you might as well concede as well. The evidence is not in your favour.
I was irritated at Sharrant and made a general statement to get him to piss off for calling me a lurker. I said that the miller claim saved Yamato's ass for so many days despite having him play the same way as Sharrant.....
Never once did I say anything close to "Sharrant is scum"
Why counter claim? 2 cops are perfectly possible.
I did say it was a pressure vote. Never once did I deny that. I kept it there after he made that comeback post.
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On February 05 2013 00:11 Vivax wrote:
The funny thing is that JX knows who the SK is, and he's asking for iamp lynch.
That's giving me thoughts atm. But JX, if he's indeed scum, could tell us anything and we wouldn't know if he favours town or the SK.
Why lynch SK before scum?
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jx you know why your scum because all you do is defend yourself and not say a single reason why anyone else could be scum.
now tell us who you shot last night.
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On February 04 2013 19:57 Mocsta wrote:Seriously JieXian, your not doing yourself any favours. Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 00:22 JieXian wrote:
@Djo : My only confirmed town read is iamp, unsure about the rest.
& now Quite a stark change in read. How did this transition occur?
You posted a whole lot of stuff splashing doubt on him. I wanted to lynch you after yamato but I changed my mind.
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