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Regarding Yamato: I had town on yamato before Vivax posted his town/scum comparison, but his post did convince me to take a closer look at his meta. The followup from many players in the game who have actually played with yamato before (I don't believe I have...) saying that he's clearly town by his meta relieves me of that burden.
Regarding Annul: Thanks dearestsnot for laying out your thoughts on him like that. I see where you're coming from now. I still think he's not the best lynch today, and I'd like to see more out of him. The way he was acting at the end made me feel like he had something to reveal to prove he's town. That may not be the case, but we'll see when he starts posting again.
Regarding Oats: Much the way I felt about prplhz, I feel about Oats. It's not that their situations were necessarily similar. But while I, myself, haven't picked up on any particular scumminess on my own, when I read what certain people say about why he's scum, I find myself agreeing with them.
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And yeah, looking at anyone in the game as though you're 100% sure they're scum is a guaranteed way to blind yourself to their true alignment. My case against thrawn and kush in acme mini mafia can attest to that =/
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On January 24 2013 07:58 mkfuba07 wrote:Back home Regarding Yamato: I had town on yamato before Vivax posted his town/scum comparison, but his post did convince me to take a closer look at his meta. The followup from many players in the game who have actually played with yamato before (I don't believe I have...) saying that he's clearly town by his meta relieves me of that burden.
So you didn't take a closer look at his meta, you will just believe what others said about it?
If you did, can you give us an own conclusion?
On January 24 2013 07:58 mkfuba07 wrote:
Regarding Oats: Much the way I felt about prplhz, I feel about Oats. It's not that their situations were necessarily similar. But while I, myself, haven't picked up on any particular scumminess on my own, when I read what certain people say about why he's scum, I find myself agreeing with them.
Not so fast, expand on these points. Be precise about why you think he's scum please.
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On January 24 2013 07:46 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2013 07:39 Stutters695 wrote:@bugs (I think it was you  WhO asked about my reads) Currently I think annul is a good lynch. I think What' S been SaiD speaks for itself and his refusal to do anything speaks for his guilt. The other two people I' M Really eyeing are debears and Vivax. There is a post in dibbers I made last night that sums up What I think of him pretty well. But basically he promised a case on djo, Never delivered and has mostly talked policy since. Since he' S a BG though to  Push a lynch on him today would be dumb since if I' M wrong WE  just Lost a bg over a Bad read and it isn't sure enough for me to justify that. Vivax I' M Really unsure of. His case on Yamato is Really weak and a cursory glance through his filter in the last large game he played showed a higher level of logic in his reads compared to this game where he is more confrontational with people who disagree instead of logical. I had a post with more detailed reasoning typed up but my girlfriend called and I forgot yo submit it before I went up work so I'll have to post that at like 9-11 est when I get off. In terms of suspicion of I'd say currently debears, vivax, annul. Debears isn't really an option and vivax is actually posting so him living to read a bit longer is much more productive than annul. If annul isn't the target today I'll be pushing for vivax. Sorry for the TLPD stuff. Phone posting so it's hard to fix. The problem with all this is that you're posting in your own little world, with no attachment to what's going on in the thread at all. You say you're going to 'push' something, but that seems unlikely. My notes from Day 1 tell me you didn't once mention either prplhz or Oatsmaster, and this remains the case with Oatsmaster through today. It's quite concerning.
This is how I play, if you've played with me before you've seen it. I really need to fix it but my d1 reads are such ass I don't even know where to begin.
I probably don't interact enough with people though I'll give you that, but I've been like that every game. I'm trying to improve as I go along.
What do you think about what I actually said though?
As I was typing that post I saw debears promise another read if the conditions are right. I'm wondering if he's so convinced oats is scum why he isn't sharing it now. Oats could still respond and if he thinks he's scum it would encourage discussion about oats around what he thinks is pretty damning.
Yeah gonz I'm going over you guys intersections now. Expect posting in the thread with some full thoughts on it when I get a chance to type it up.
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Marshall Islands1474 Posts
There's no reason for you not to comment on the leading contenders for lynch though, Stutters. The work is done for you by others.
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Korea (South)2582 Posts
Hello.
I masoned yamato because I thought he was town.
Annul shouldn't be lynched today sillywillies.
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No one interested in FT masons?
@ Gonzaw
On January 24 2013 05:16 gonzaw wrote:
austin, now that you are here.
What do you think of the "cases" against me from Oats/Five/wbg/debears?
You thought I was pretty townie on D1 and posted a bunch of reasons, do the stuff those guys pointed out change your read or not?
I may have skipped it in your filter but you barely mention me I believe
Show me the case made by FT against you please.
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Grush who did you mason in the other cycles?
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FT is so disinterested in asking people about unclear things, he must be 100 % sure Oats is scum.
He must also be sure that it's the only scum left.
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Korea (South)2582 Posts
On January 24 2013 08:19 Vivax wrote:
Grush who did you mason in the other cycles?
No one.
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Korea (South)2582 Posts
Also whether or not Vivax's reads are bad, I don't think he is scum.
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On January 24 2013 08:06 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2013 07:58 mkfuba07 wrote:Back home Regarding Yamato: I had town on yamato before Vivax posted his town/scum comparison, but his post did convince me to take a closer look at his meta. The followup from many players in the game who have actually played with yamato before (I don't believe I have...) saying that he's clearly town by his meta relieves me of that burden. So you didn't take a closer look at his meta, you will just believe what others said about it? If you did, can you give us an own conclusion? Show nested quote +On January 24 2013 07:58 mkfuba07 wrote:
Regarding Oats: Much the way I felt about prplhz, I feel about Oats. It's not that their situations were necessarily similar. But while I, myself, haven't picked up on any particular scumminess on my own, when I read what certain people say about why he's scum, I find myself agreeing with them. Not so fast, expand on these points. Be precise about why you think he's scum please.
No, I didn't take a closer look at his meta. I would have done so, but I respect FT's insight in the matter. There's also the fact that reading through at least two of his games would take me hours, and it's likely to turn up as little more than "he was aggressive there" and "he was less aggressive there". While I admit that what you posted swayed me, what I've heard from FT, as well as my feelings about yamato prior to your post, are enough for me to plant him rather firmly as town.
As for why I believe oats is scum, I'll get a more detailed list of reasons shortly (shortly could be a while XD).
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On January 24 2013 08:23 grush57 wrote:
Also whether or not Vivax's reads are bad, I don't think he is scum.
Agreed.
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On January 24 2013 08:18 Vivax wrote:
No one interested in FT masons?
*snip*
I'm interested, but I'm not going to ask him to out two masons, both of whom he thinks are town, just to sate my curiosity.
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Annul is obvscum, at the moment he isn't doing anything, but putting out weak scum reads and useless setup speculation. His posting style is that of a scum who knows he's in a bad spot. He says his D1 was non-existant, but I dont see a town directed change out of him.
##Vote: Annul
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Hey grush, what did you want to achieve by contacting a town yamato and then doing almost nothing?
Any more conversations?
@ mkfuba
Do you have a read on gonzaw?
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Korea (South)2582 Posts
I didn't know or have time
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Grush, can you vote gonzaw please?
At least you can redeem yourself a little for making this game harder for those who are putting effort into it.
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On January 24 2013 05:30 DearestSnot wrote:
Vivax, I'm going to put this nicely:
you are being a moron.
Go take a break from the thread if you are town and come back when your head isn't so full of shit.
Chezinu:
Why did you swap your vote from yourself to Austin, to gonzaw with less than a minute remaining in day 1? It seems like you wanted to get them elected over Toad, is that right?
Yup
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Can Chezinu the brown try to bring some clarity into the mason matter obfuscated by the corrupt mayor?
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