EPTOn January 26 2013 09:04 FiveTouch wrote:
I don't think they're likely to be mafia right now.
I don't think they're likely to be mafia right now.
I am also unlikely to be mafia at any other point this game.
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I am also unlikely to be mafia at any other point this game. | ||
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On January 28 2013 07:03 Chezinu wrote: Does no one care? ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/vb7IoDK.jpg) (If you flip mafia the kitten WILL NOT deliver this) (Also I really wish I didn't add that smile, but I too much afterwards to undo back  ) | ||
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On January 28 2013 10:14 FiveTouch wrote: I'm still in disbelief that BKE flipped town really. After one KP last night, jesus. No idea why you'd trade 1 KP on your choice of player for a near-guaranteed mislynch on BKE the next day. It WAS only N2 last night, and Bugs was jailed N1. So scum may have expected that he'd have medic protection, given it was the first night he was targetable for that, and double-stacked him? In that case, you're trading 1 KP on your choice of player for a near-guaranteed kill on Bugs and a near-guaranteed mislynch on BKE, which starts to look decent I guess. | ||
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On January 28 2013 10:26 Mocsta wrote: c9++ rolls setups for 13-player games. A normal is generally going to try and balance team size and roles, but afaik there's no formula that the players can game like that to know what may or may not be in the game.I thought the way the roles went was that the letter for mad hatter had to come up multiple times, to get multiple characters. therefore, the chances of 1 mad hatter >>> chances of 2 mad hatter (Statistically) same reason its unlikely to have 3 detectives | ||
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So far we have chez, prplhz, gonzaw, who have all been around awhile. I would expect two newer players as the last two mafia, but it's not guaranteed. | ||
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On January 28 2013 10:48 Mocsta wrote: A medic protects from one hit, per the OP. Therefore, yes. It's not uncommon for mafia to doublestack important townies early on to make sure they get killed even if medic protected.OK, well for me the outcome of this discussion since BKE was lynched is (1) we have no idea the # of mafia power roles - stop guessing (2) we have no idea the # of mafia masons - so all masons need to be scrutinised (yes including me) QUESTION. If medic was on bugs... and mafia used 2KP to shoot bugs.. would he have died (i.e. first bullet saved by medic, 2nd bullet kill shot?) There have already been a couple posts that were just general musings about why mafia would either hold a KP or double stack Bugs. | ||
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I was all blah about prplhz D1, found Gonzaw townie, and somewhat pushed to save Gonzaw D2. I noted that one of the reasons not to make me mayor was that I'd be busy until the end of the month with work. That was an understatement. I'm posting WAY less and reading WAY less than usual, I know. That will most likely continue until the end of January, or whenever I can get my work out the door. That said, I don't see it making sense for both Gonzaw and I to run as third-place folks when we could have consolidated. If I were mafia and trying to save Gonzaw D2, I should have: (1) started talking about a possible frame from the very outset, to maybe keep votes off him BEFORE they got there; (2) shut up and let Gonzaw die, given that so many votes had been dropped on him and it was unlikely I'd save him before the end of D2. | ||
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On January 29 2013 01:08 Toadesstern wrote: I don't usually give a crap about insta-delurks but that was a funny one :p I'm not happy with the amount of attention I'm giving this game for the last couple days. I knew it was going to catch me some flak sooner or later. Been kinda waiting to insta-respond to whoever brought it up. | ||
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On January 29 2013 01:33 yamato77 wrote: If anyone has shots left, I'd prefer someone who is suspicious of me shoot me tonight rather than us lynching me.But the question is, are you going to lynch Austin? I see no reason not to. I'm a veteran. For the first cycle and part of the second I thought I might have been vocal enough to get a shot, but no. At this point, I don't think I'm likely to attract an NK, so there's less reason not to claim and hope to absorb a shot. Scum lost their JOAT, and have no medic ability and not vet ability on their team anymore. If anyone is really suspicious of me and doesn't have another target, they're more than welcome to shoot me tonight. You can think you're shooting mafia, I'll survive and be town by virtue of role that mafia can't have, and hopefully won't complicate the D4 lynch with an extra option. | ||
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On January 29 2013 01:40 FiveTouch wrote: Mostly guilt over not participating. I'm not used to not being involved, and I don't like it. I don't think I'm a likely NK candidate at this point, because I've been so uninvolved, so the surprise of the role is gone. And if I'm not going to be able to contribute as positively as normal, I especially don't want to clog up a day of discussion.Why would you claim? Fuck me. This tells us and gives us nothing. I understand you don't seem to want to lynch me, but if there's serious discussion on that point I'd rather just nip it in the bud. It's probably dumb, it doesn't give us anything except maybe make scum NKs interesting. Effectively, with 1 KP, there are 3 targets they can't kill and it's going to be difficult to see them try and set up for the very late game. | ||
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On January 29 2013 01:47 FiveTouch wrote: If anyone is ACTUALLY suspicious of me and has a shot, they can shoot me. My surviving proves the claim. Except how does an unverifiable claim nip anything in the bud? Yes, it's not the best way to verify oneself, and maybe we don't even HAVE any shots (seems odd they've been held this long AND we've got lots of blues). But on the off chance one of the people that wants to lynch me or might want to lynch me has a shot, they can fire away. | ||
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On January 29 2013 03:23 yamato77 wrote: You should be looking harder at my filter. That post is immediately followed, in the same conversation, with:Looks more like he's attacking Vivax than trying to get him to move his vote. On January 22 2013 08:17 austinmcc wrote: You put your vote on Chezinu, who would be the second player to have 4. That didn't change anything, unless you have a magical plan to move multiple votes around, which would make you scum. I don't actually think you're scum this game, but I can't get a handle on your play. If you want Toad to be sheriff, then voting chezinu doesn't help. If you want not-me to be sheriff, then voting chezinu doesn't help. So you've taken an action that does nothing, really, unless you can move more votes. And the action you took was wrong for you if you can move more votes, because you want toad and not chezinu. So...I are confused. | ||
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On January 29 2013 03:30 yamato77 wrote: You're not helping yourself with this delurking business. Am I supposed to respond "you're not helping yourself with your tunneling"? Look at the post that follows. Do you believe that, in context, the first post reads like I was attacking Vivax, or am I actually trying to get him to move his vote/figure out why his vote is where his vote is? If it's the latter, then, at least in the case of that post, you misread it because you did not misread it in context. On January 29 2013 03:29 yamato77 wrote: Is it just a coincidence that Austin is associated heavily with all three flipped mafia? What do you think? Do you believe I associated myself heavily with 3/4 my team? Does that match up with how I have played scum in other games? If not, am I just playing opposite game to screw with your head? (Was scum in Aperture 2 and replacement scum in Chrono Trigger). On January 29 2013 03:35 yamato77 wrote: He's delurking solely to defend himself from the possibility of being lynched. He's actually delurking to try and get this done so we can have better lynch candidates come D4, when we can actually lynch. | ||
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On January 29 2013 03:46 yamato77 wrote: Okay.Yes, I think your associations with the three flipped mafia make you mafia. Asserting otherwise is delving into pure WIFOM. I refuse to believe that it's just a coincidence that you happened to have multiple positive mentions of all three flipped mafia players. I can barely find a bad word about them. Do you believe that first quote to be me attacking vivax, or me trying to figure out why he's voting Chezinu? | ||
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On January 29 2013 06:55 grush57 wrote: Join the club. You're barely posting, as is axle at this point. As was/am I. Why does no one care that I'm barely posting? :'( Austin, why are you scum? Vivax, explain all your dt checks plox. I'm scum apparently ... mainly because I interacted oddly with the prplhz lynch D1, not wanting to lynch him but not having good reasons, didn't want Chez pushed aside as a mayoral candidate, and was townie on Gonzaw. My activity has also dropped recently compared to the early game, I'm not involved, etc. I don't THINK that stuff makes me scum given my PM, but that's the core of the reasoning as I understand it. | ||
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gg mocsta | ||
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On January 30 2013 05:34 yamato77 wrote: I said this in my first game with him, but getting a read on Axle is difficult. If you really think he needs to die, do whatever you want, but your evidence so far is inconclusive at best. Out of curiousity, what constitutes "conclusive evidence" in a mafia game? | ||
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