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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
Does anyone see a problem with me saying "I thought gonzaw is town d1, which is the reason I thought he'd die n1, which is the reason those retarded night hits make him look not town" ? Because I don't know what Vivax thinks he's getting at here and I'd just like to see someone else comment for once so he finally shuts up | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Vivax
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Vivax
22414 Posts
On January 23 2013 03:52 Toadesstern wrote: this exactly. On a sidenote for medics: Don't forget about gonzaw. That guy probably needs protection as well. So if you're a medic and don't know what to do, at least consider protecting WBG / Gonzaw / Sandro. I'm not going to tell you my target. This was the post where Toad changed his mind about Oats. But Toad's latest scumreads before this post were: On January 22 2013 16:53 Toadesstern wrote: If you're pressing me to formulate a real list with the guys I'd pick if I had to right now I'd say it's: Annul as #1, oats or JX as #2, debears as #3, BKE as #4. clarity seems very unlikely to be mafia but it's possible I guess. 1st of all, super easy targets to pick as scum. Then, you changed your whole fucking read on Oats based on him being the first to make a case on gonzaw. He wanted gonzaw protected during that night and thought that his former scumread is suddenly town for making a case on someone he wants protected? No, actually, he and gonzaw are scumbuddies. Toad has seen the winds change towards a gonzaw lynch and has set himself up to bus him, that's why he switched stances on both of Oats and gonzaw so extremely. He obviously didn't have good reasons except for the bus motive to do so, that's why his answers regarding gonzaw and annul have been extremely bad and even contradict his opinion on gonzaw. Lynch either of them and thank me after the game, you noobs. Even Axle noticed this shit. FT is awful with his Oats tunnel. For sure not Palmar. | ||
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Vivax
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 24 2013 00:32 Vivax wrote: FT is awful with his Oats tunnel. For sure not Palmar. Ok, your mayor who lynched you mafia on Day 1 is awful. Coming from the guy who apparently made some bullshit play to keep himself alive (?!) and then after the nightkills had to admit all his reads were wrong. Such a pro. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 24 2013 00:32 Vivax wrote: But the connection between gonzaw and your Oats read and the people getting interested in gonzaw after the night sealed the deal. This was the post where Toad changed his mind about Oats. But Toad's latest scumreads before this post were: 1st of all, super easy targets to pick as scum. Then, you changed your whole fucking read on Oats based on him being the first to make a case on gonzaw. He wanted gonzaw protected during that night and thought that his former scumread is suddenly town for making a case on someone he wants protected? No, actually, he and gonzaw are scumbuddies. Toad has seen the winds change towards a gonzaw lynch and has set himself up to bus him, that's why he switched stances on both of Oats and gonzaw so extremely. He obviously didn't have good reasons except for the bus motive to do so, that's why his answers regarding gonzaw and annul have been extremely bad and even contradict his opinion on gonzaw. Lynch either of them and thank me after the game, you noobs. Even Axle noticed this shit. FT is awful with his Oats tunnel. For sure not Palmar. stop cherrrypicking, that's a fucking lie. Those aren't my latest scumreads. My latest scumreads was a list of 7 people and bugs asked who I'd put down as team mafia if I had to. I never said changed my Oats read from mafia to town, even now still have him down as "might be mafia", it only made the mafiaread on him weaker imo and I said exactly that but who cares, you don't even read the thread, nor do you read my posts. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On January 24 2013 00:20 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok, the difference was with CC I was the one pushing the lynch JX, I was a bystander and felt that it might snowball. I dont think its that straight forward.. lets take a look @ Oats uber aggression in Newbie XXXV His 1st post in the game On January 13 2013 00:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Mocsta stop being useless and repeating what other people have already said. This is after 4 or 5 posts. On January 13 2013 08:58 Oatsmaster wrote: Mocsta, you are looking awfully scummy. In fact, im gonna vote you. After I show how you are scum On January 12 2013 16:38 Mocsta wrote: BUT.. you are almost sounding "paranoid" - I know this, because after my last game, many assumed I was "paranoid". What is wrong with sounding paranoid? Do you instantly believe what the other person says? This is scummy because Town wants paranoid players to find scum and scum want believing players to manipulate. ... Mocsta, either shape up or die. ##Vote: Mocsta Ironic, as town you think paranoid is good. In this game you are against JX because you thought it might snowball? This doesnt match up to me and this game was ONE WEEK ago. Here is another example of Oats tunnel aggression. On January 13 2013 19:37 Oatsmaster wrote: Instead you focus on somebody who has been active, playing his previous town meta, and has been trying to promote activity while defending himself from you. I think he is scum. Is that not a good enough reason? So again.. if this is his standard play.. why is he trying to jump in and randomly defend people all the time? This is a complete contradiction in his normal play. And heres the cincher FiveTouch missed  On January 14 2013 21:19 Oatsmaster wrote: Which game? My first newbie game was fucking horrible and I was town, My chrono game was different because there were 20-30 people, I was one of the few newbies, It was my first actual game. So yeah, since then, I have become more confident to pressure people. Question to Oats Why did you change your playstyle from your previous game if you won there as town Are the differences scummy? or just different? Oats admits hes confident since Chrono ( a game with vets)....; stark contrast to this. On January 23 2013 23:51 Oatsmaster wrote: ... Here, I shy.  Please share thoughts people. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 24 2013 00:35 FiveTouch wrote: Ok, your mayor who lynched you mafia on Day 1 is awful. Coming from the guy who apparently made some bullshit play to keep himself alive (?!) and then after the nightkills had to admit all his reads were wrong. Such a pro. do you think our early read on Vivax is wrong? Dude's annoying as it can get... | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 24 2013 00:38 Toadesstern wrote: do you think our early read on Vivax is wrong? Dude's annoying as it can get... Unfortunately it's still quite likely Vivax is town. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 24 2013 00:32 Vivax wrote: But the connection between gonzaw and your Oats read and the people getting interested in gonzaw after the night sealed the deal. This was the post where Toad changed his mind about Oats. But Toad's latest scumreads before this post were: 1st of all, super easy targets to pick as scum. Then, you changed your whole fucking read on Oats based on him being the first to make a case on gonzaw. He wanted gonzaw protected during that night and thought that his former scumread is suddenly town for making a case on someone he wants protected? No, actually, he and gonzaw are scumbuddies. Toad has seen the winds change towards a gonzaw lynch and has set himself up to bus him, that's why he switched stances on both of Oats and gonzaw so extremely. He obviously didn't have good reasons except for the bus motive to do so, that's why his answers regarding gonzaw and annul have been extremely bad and even contradict his opinion on gonzaw. Lynch either of them and thank me after the game, you noobs. Even Axle noticed this shit. FT is awful with his Oats tunnel. For sure not Palmar. not to mention that everything you mentioned is true for Sandroba and WBG as well because they said THE EXACT SAME THING. Guess it has to be Sandroba + WBG + Toad + Prplhz + Gonzaw as team mafia... damn sorry that Sandroba already flipped town and I really don't think WBG is mafia and I know I'm town. Nothing you're saying makes sense... | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
I have become more confident to pressure people. Uhuh, so other than the start of the game, which was poor play which I already addressed, Wouldnt you say im more confident than in my Chrono game? | ||
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Vivax
22414 Posts
It's telling that in none of your arguments you ask me why I think gonzaw is scum if I'm so sure about the connection between you two and you aren't sure about him. | ||
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Vivax
22414 Posts
For now. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 24 2013 00:44 Vivax wrote: I have good reason to believe Bugs isn't mafia. It's telling that in none of your arguments you ask me why I think gonzaw is scum if I'm so sure about the connection between you two and you aren't sure about him. why should I ask you why gonzaw is scum, I know you can't scumhunt and a "scumread" is nothing other than rolling a dice for you.. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On January 24 2013 00:40 Oatsmaster wrote: Mocsta, I have become more confident to pressure people. Uhuh, so other than the start of the game, which was poor play which I already addressed, Wouldnt you say im more confident than in my Chrono game? Well the game I know intimately is Newbie XXXV as that was one week ago. I also know we butted heads majorly. You were town. Either way, what has poor play got to do with anything? You quoted directly before you were shy. I found evidence specifically stating since Chrono you feel confident in your play. FiveTouch comments on your change in aggression regarding nominating people as scum within 2 posts.. and you respond by saying you are now suddenly shy. Why are you lying Oats? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
I know this is a lot of a non-vet to ask of vets, but can you please put your discussions on hold. I feel like you two are discussing semantics - i am not saying the discussion is invalid or inappropriate.. just : Concurrently we have a case mounting on Oats, based on facts in this game and meta from a game I just played with him. I would really appreciate if you could share your thoughts on what FiveTouch and myself have raised over the past 2 pages. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 24 2013 00:45 Vivax wrote: But you are lucky to play against this town Toad. For now. Curse this town with its almost complete lack of flaming and its killing of mafia Day 1. Such a bad town, curses! | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Anyway, gonna sleep now. Vivax, please think before you post. | ||
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