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On January 18 2013 05:27 AxleGreaser wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hi all I have a cunning plan. Well maybe... I once saw game where it was suggested (by someone else who shall remain nameless, unless they choose to admit it) that D1 we have mass role claim, then we lynch everyone that claims scum and were done. There is a small but fatal flaw in that plan. Cunning Plan 2.0 Would all the smurfs who are not Kush, please claim they are not Kush. I am busy trying to work out who I will "suggest" the mayor consider Lynching D1. + Show Spoiler [obvious shit] + Yeah I also suggest apart from hold hands and elect a mayor... that we hunt scum D1
rather than elect him then demand that he single handedly find scum while we all LOL around our work done...
The guide says: Priority #1: Establishing Your Innocence, ... which means by hunting scum of course
This is done by typing in tab that is not Kush's main account "I am not Kush" and pressing post. You could of course also then give us some feel for who you are + Show Spoiler +For instance @NamelessHero Your posting history Meta shows strong tendency to post or at most twice per game you have ever posted in..... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=Nameless Hero&gb=dateI sure hope there is planned change in your careers illustrious undefeated career You appear to know people and people know you..... Hi? @Fivetouch So far I am equally divided between a threesr smurf, and Kush smurf that has learned how not to post in the wrong tab. Is it your intention to post enough that we have better chance of deciding which smurf you are? All non smurfs with short post counts (aka < me) last exit is fast approaching on the left.
smurfing is hard work and dangerous too.
fivetouch is not a threesr smurf and not a kush smurf. There are no threesr smurfs or kush smurfs in this game.
Threesr finally realized mafia isn't the game for him.
/obs
i will find the scum from the sidelines i guess :'(
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1 or 2 posts per game is all I need to serve Justice.
If you're with me!
##Fistbump
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I'm not playing but you should all vote me for mayor anyway
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On January 18 2013 06:42 kushm4sta mumbled somthing incoherently from under a ginormous BAN:+ Show Spoiler [ Mumble Mumble] +On January 18 2013 05:27 AxleGreaser wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hi all I have a cunning plan. Well maybe... I once saw game where it was suggested (by someone else who shall remain nameless, unless they choose to admit it) that D1 we have mass role claim, then we lynch everyone that claims scum and were done. There is a small but fatal flaw in that plan. Cunning Plan 2.0 Would all the smurfs who are not Kush, please claim they are not Kush. I am busy trying to work out who I will "suggest" the mayor consider Lynching D1. + Show Spoiler [obvious shit] + Yeah I also suggest apart from hold hands and elect a mayor... that we hunt scum D1
rather than elect him then demand that he single handedly find scum while we all LOL around our work done...
The guide says: Priority #1: Establishing Your Innocence, ... which means by hunting scum of course
This is done by typing in tab that is not Kush's main account "I am not Kush" and pressing post. You could of course also then give us some feel for who you are + Show Spoiler +For instance @NamelessHero Your posting history Meta shows strong tendency to post or at most twice per game you have ever posted in..... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=Nameless Hero&gb=dateI sure hope there is planned change in your careers illustrious undefeated career You appear to know people and people know you..... Hi? @Fivetouch So far I am equally divided between a threesr smurf, and Kush smurf that has learned how not to post in the wrong tab. Is it your intention to post enough that we have better chance of deciding which smurf you are? All non smurfs with short post counts (aka < me) last exit is fast approaching on the left. smurfing is hard work and dangerous too. fivetouch is not a threesr smurf and not a kush smurf. There are no threesr smurfs or kush smurfs in this game. Threesr finally realized mafia isn't the game for him. I note you have not claimed @NamelessHero is not your smurf... but I was already with 3 9's sure of that.... I am glad for you to thus by not claiming it confirm @NamelessHero is probably not your smurf... he should still confirm it to as above, even though that will (AFAIK) then set record of 3 posts in one game and ... thus be inconsistent with his meta and hence a scum tell.. /obs i will find the scum from the sidelines i guess :'(
He who will not be heard, yet somehow was, said:
> smurfing is hard work and dangerous suicidal too. (fixed it)
Obvious as shit trolling of newbs is obvious as shit.... sheesh even half the newbs, who dont speak fluent Strine, knew you were a dead cert ringer from the get go. "Dangerous" are things that might turn out bad... "suicidal" are plans that only have bad outcomes.
Speaking of bad plans that cant work out well....
kushm4sta typing in his tab that is not Kush's main account wrote:
> fivetouch is not a threesr smurf and not a kush smurf. There are no threesr smurfs or kush smurfs in this game.
Sigh.... Instructions who needs them when your Kush powered...
How to claim "I am not Kush"
This is done by typing in tab that is not Kush's main account "I am not Kush" and pressing post.
Wrong tab man.
>i will find the scum from the sidelines i guess :'([/QUOTE]
it is safer from day vigi's, Lynch mobs (Policy or scum), Mayors, out there... next time you play there may even be a necromancer...
Hell n1, powered by Axel logic you could get nk'd.... (i am not just talking night vigis and third party...)
That might just about however confirm @NamelessHero as a Not Kush smurf...
Kush Seriously: Quiet times, are in my experience best used to work out what it is you did last time that really should not be repeated or it will produce the same outcome every damn time. Youre not crazy are you... Well... Learn....
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On January 18 2013 06:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
Everyone is running for mayor and the game still hasn't started :p
close
This bunny is
Everyone is running from mayor and the game still hasn't started :p
besides gotta start the game all spam trollied out. Look at my filter go....
I will have the ideal Lynch Lurkers Policy platform to campaign not to be mayor from...
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The good thing about all this spam is that we could be pretty that Axle rolled mafia if he suddenly stops posting after the start of the game ^^
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On January 18 2013 07:35 Nameless Hero wrote:
1 or 2 posts per game is all I need to serve Justice.
If you're with me!
##Fistbump
Ooops I missed a smurf hey.... NosePicker
On January 16 2013 06:19 DearestSnot wrote:
/in
So with your two posts You have /in here and you like the Hunger games cos its like 1984....
is there anything else we ought know before you get Lynched vigid or nk'd
If you really are new here, yeah.... now would be good time to claim to not know "whats happening man" and do it better than Kush...
Just reading some metas.... Starting with the short bus drivers
@mkfuba07 Iknow its been a while and you have read bit since then... but just in case....
+ Show Spoiler [mkfuba07] +On November 02 2012 02:59 mkfuba07 wrote:
Hi all! I forgot this was starting, and I just caught up.
About Release:
I don't think he's scum. He seems too involved and sincere to be scum. He might not say the best things at all times, but so far I have a slight town read on him. In any case, we seem to have moved passed him for the most part today.
As for Muso and Acrofales... this is an awkward situation. If there's only one mason pair (which looks to be most likely), I'm inclined to believe Acrofales over Muso. I find it more likely that Muso fakeclaimed mason before there were any claims, than Acrofales fakeclaiming mason after there was already a claim.
##Vote Muso
With regards me: Dont do this: I don't think he's scum. He seems too involved and sincere to be scum.
I lynch you for this: so far I have a slight town read on him.
In any case, we seem to have moved passed him for the most part today. <<< So who does saying this help....!!!
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I will $$Vote:AxleGreaser
(for mayor)
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On January 18 2013 10:05 Mocsta wrote:
I will $$Vote:AxleGreaser
(for mayor)
You legit have a death wish.
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On January 18 2013 09:32 Djodref wrote:
The good thing about all this spam is that we could be pretty that Axle rolled mafia if he suddenly stops posting after the start of the game ^^
So if I suddenly stop spamming and trolling which are sure as shit up the thread scum tells you're going to lynch me for that?
What are you going to do if i go on doing them? Woot now _you_ cant lynch me for either. Way to go.
Me stop posting...
Not really see my filter from XXXII although let it be know as most of this is unfocussed, light hearted, not going to fly spam, trolly material, I really will have to go on diet when the game starts.
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On January 18 2013 10:10 AxleGreaser wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2013 09:32 Djodref wrote:
The good thing about all this spam is that we could be pretty that Axle rolled mafia if he suddenly stops posting after the start of the game ^^ So if I suddenly stop spamming and trolling which are sure as shit up the thread scum tells you're going to lynch me for that? What are you going to do if i go on doing them? Woot now _you_ cant lynch me for either. Way to go. Me stop posting... Not really see my filter from XXXII although let it be know as most of this is unfocussed, light hearted, not going to fly spam, trolly material, I really will have to go on diet when the game starts.
I've obsed your newbie game but I'm sure you would post less as scum. That's all I'm saying 
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On January 18 2013 10:22 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2013 10:10 AxleGreaser wrote:On January 18 2013 09:32 Djodref wrote:
The good thing about all this spam is that we could be pretty that Axle rolled mafia if he suddenly stops posting after the start of the game ^^ So if I suddenly stop spamming and trolling which are sure as shit up the thread scum tells you're going to lynch me for that? What are you going to do if i go on doing them? Woot now _you_ cant lynch me for either. Way to go. Me stop posting... Not really see my filter from XXXII although let it be know as most of this is unfocussed, light hearted, not going to fly spam, trolly material, I really will have to go on diet when the game starts. I've obsed your newbie game but I'm sure you would post less as scum. That's all I'm saying
Dont be vague and eye of the beholder, conformation bias based fill in the blanks wishy washy...
less than what though...? less is a comparative operator... be explicit less than....
In order to actually be predictive feature(scum tell) and not just convenient piece of emotive wagon building BS, you need a threshold.
would you care to also hazard a guess whether I would ALSO post less than 1 quarter (16 page filter...) of this games thread as Town...
So the conditional probability of me being scum if you observe a shorter filter is effected by that observation how?
I am happy to be lynched but not on damned if I do, damned if dont platform.
Are we having fun yet?
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On January 18 2013 11:10 AxleGreaser wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2013 10:22 Djodref wrote:On January 18 2013 10:10 AxleGreaser wrote:On January 18 2013 09:32 Djodref wrote:
The good thing about all this spam is that we could be pretty that Axle rolled mafia if he suddenly stops posting after the start of the game ^^ So if I suddenly stop spamming and trolling which are sure as shit up the thread scum tells you're going to lynch me for that? What are you going to do if i go on doing them? Woot now _you_ cant lynch me for either. Way to go. Me stop posting... Not really see my filter from XXXII although let it be know as most of this is unfocussed, light hearted, not going to fly spam, trolly material, I really will have to go on diet when the game starts. I've obsed your newbie game but I'm sure you would post less as scum. That's all I'm saying Dont be vague and eye of the beholder, conformation bias based fill in the blanks wishy washy... less than what though...? less is a comparative operator... be explicit less than.... In order to actually be predictive feature(scum tell) and not just convenient piece of emotive wagon building BS, you need a threshold. would you care to also hazard a guess whether I would ALSO post less than 1 quarter (16 page filter...) of this games thread as Town... So the conditional probability of me being scum if you observe a shorter filter is effected by that observation how? I am happy to be lynched but not on damned if I do, damned if dont platform. Are we having fun yet?
Let's assume you are going to roll scum and me town ^^
Let's take for reference your activity level in the pre-game and in your newbie game. With this reference in mind, the less you are going to post, the surer I'm going to be that you are mafia. Then I'll just find other evidence to get you rightly lynched by the town 
Can we keep this for when we get our roles ?
I think you have yet to experience the dark side of this game
You are never the same once you get to roll scum for your first time...
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On January 18 2013 12:07 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2013 11:10 AxleGreaser wrote:On January 18 2013 10:22 Djodref wrote:On January 18 2013 10:10 AxleGreaser wrote:On January 18 2013 09:32 Djodref wrote:
The good thing about all this spam is that we could be pretty that Axle rolled mafia if he suddenly stops posting after the start of the game ^^ So if I suddenly stop spamming and trolling which are sure as shit up the thread scum tells you're going to lynch me for that? What are you going to do if i go on doing them? Woot now _you_ cant lynch me for either. Way to go. Me stop posting... Not really see my filter from XXXII although let it be know as most of this is unfocussed, light hearted, not going to fly spam, trolly material, I really will have to go on diet when the game starts. I've obsed your newbie game but I'm sure you would post less as scum. That's all I'm saying Dont be vague and eye of the beholder, conformation bias based fill in the blanks wishy washy... less than what though...? less is a comparative operator... be explicit less than.... In order to actually be predictive feature(scum tell) and not just convenient piece of emotive wagon building BS, you need a threshold. would you care to also hazard a guess whether I would ALSO post less than 1 quarter (16 page filter...) of this games thread as Town... So the conditional probability of me being scum if you observe a shorter filter is effected by that observation how? I am happy to be lynched but not on damned if I do, damned if dont platform. Are we having fun yet? Let's assume you are going to roll scum and me town ^^ Let's take for reference your activity level in the pre-game and in your newbie game. With this reference in mind, the less you are going to post, the surer I'm going to be that you are mafia. Then I'll just find other evidence to get you rightly lynched by the town Can we keep this for when we get our roles ? I think you have yet to experience the dark side of this game You are never the same once you get to roll scum for your first time...
> Can we keep this for when we get our roles ?
Why yes we can... but I am not sure you will keep your word as more shit in thread is also very conceivably a scummy tell and you can simply claim it was scum trap... that you laid for a wet noob. Thats WIFOM? but if you go first with your case its then in peoples minds.
We can especially keep the way you keep (purposefully?) missing the point that a less than operator is a comparator and not just a directional ordering operator. less post => more scummy (unless you later claim it doesn't)
It is true you have now claimed that the less I post the scummier I will be as the quietness is stimulated by the anxiety of now being on the "darkside"... for the first time. (sounds plausible/normal) (that sounds bit like valid function for mapping my behavior into and ordered set of increasing scuminess. I grant that... if you sure you want to be wedded to it and not the reverse...)
That strikes me as a viable hypothesis, but as shitting up the thread is motive of scum , and trolling is out of bounds somewhat for this game but more tolerance has to be given to posters who have that as their wincon it is a risky assumption.
So again if you wish to pre-specify to me potential scum which way your evaluation function will operate thats fine, it may not be too risky a play as all the other players have not specified their behavior<->scuiminess mappings. Anyway thats your problem.
However you have still not in anyway specified a threshold. How much less how much scummier starting where....
Some amount less spammy is I would have thought virtually guaranteed even as town. So at some amount less it will be town tell then some more less a null tell and finalyl when I am somewhat aout there in the direction of a quivering mess of nerves I am scum.
> Can we keep this for when we get our roles ?
Sure we can but You dont get to make up the threshold at that time to suit your motives.
Not unless i get to lynch for that.... Fair?
> I think you have yet to experience the dark side of this game
> You are never the same once you get to roll scum for your first time...
I believe thats a verifiable fact....
Thus you'd be claiming.... this as scum tell wont be weak and that i will clam up lot if i roll scum...
or is that just a window dressing of true facts, to give an air of authenticity to raw speculation.
Apart from being kind to me,(scum tell, preemptive ground work buddying just in case) and letting me know how deep a hole i am digging if I do roll scum what is the motivation of your explanation other than as a window dressing of truth.
or are you expecting that if
I roll scum your prior knowledge of the sudden trepidation i feel will make me panic that you see everything .... in advance.
I am sure we are having fun.
The only thing I am unsure of is if I circling my prey/stalker clockwise or widdershins.
I can see the whites of his bloodshot eyes and that's about all i can see from here...
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On January 18 2013 11:58 kushm4sta wrote:
maybe i dodged a bullet
Several if i count right.
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@ Axle
Don't try to lynch the host if you roll scum
Also, I have nothing to do with who is going to roll what. I'm just hoping to get town because I've been scum in almost half of my games already as you can see in my profile ^^
And this pre-game chat is not very relevant of what I'm going to do later in the game, because it is mainly going to depend on my alignment, and also what the other players are going to do.
Nevertheless, if I get to be town, I do think that activity level is a good tell of the alignment of one player, and I don't need to give any threshold or quantified value to the less because it is mainly going to be a starting point for me to see which player I should investigate/pressure/read carefully.
If my suspicion gets some confirmation under further inspection, then I'll start to promote my lynch candidate by writting cases and stuff
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Djo I had some more thoughts:
Djo Wrote:
> Let's assume you are going to roll scum and me town ^^ << why yes sir we will chosoe secnario to suit you with no risk to youa s there are no diagnostics that make you scum....
So if you are scum and i am town how will you rewrite and manipulate those models of my scumminess to get me mislynched... Eh? looks kinda easy now i think about that. Your right me never having rolled scum doesnt let me see you prepare the ground for the off chance that you do.
> Let's take for reference your activity level in the pre-game and in your newbie game. With this reference in mind, the less you > are going to post, the surer I'm going to be that you are mafia. Then I'll just find other evidence to get you rightly lynched by the
> town
> Can we keep this for when we get our roles ?
Sure thing Can I keep all the free parmeters you kepty in this model of scummines on me that you keppt so tyou could make your model of my scumminess fit the data later....
Over what time window will you evaluate my posting rate... are you assuming it is constant over time? if so you didnt read XXXII very well. Will the context of the thread have any input as to how much i am expected to post in response. My rate and the spaminess of it went up and down with my tiredness what was happening if anything int h thread and finalyl me virtually giving up discussion in LYLO because no one would talk anymore.. (perhaps with reason)
Will the extra number of players or their cagieness in this as opposed to a newbie be taken into account as that make there be more or less that is worth me saying...
Exactly how oversimplistic is your model of my posting.... isnt intention the better heuristic measure than word post or page count.
Why you want crap, malleable heuristic scummyness function, you have not even rolled scum yet?
or is it because you know you might need one... as you have rolled scum before.
> I think you have yet to experience the dark side of this game
> You are never the same once you get to roll scum for your first time...
Apparently you were not.
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@ Axle
Yeah, I think I'll just look at the number of pages you post, and compare it with your day average in the newbie game and in this pre-game. But it's not going to definitively make you scum or town in my mind. It is going to be a good indicator to know if I should spend my time concentrating on you/your filter to assess my read on you
Because you need to concentrate on few people in a big game like this ^^
Also I don't think I'm going to pay a lot of attention to you in the beginining, I think I'm going to focus on the players I know.
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