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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 23 2013 08:32 GMT
#1541
holy crap I shouldn't drink so much coke and coffee early on. Need to calm down a bit :3
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 23 2013 08:35 GMT
#1542
So do you think Annul is town/scum?
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 23 2013 08:38 GMT
#1543
Toad/WBG

I had a pretty major day at work, so don't have formalized reads to push right now.

But to promote some discussion, what do you make of the (lack of) activity from Chezinu?

I know that is has been discussed as *very* unreadable, but we are now ~8hrs into Day2, and he is on a 2page filter. Is that normal for him? Especially considering he campaigned for mayor?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 23 2013 08:39 GMT
#1544
I think he's mafia but the nighthits are retarded as it can get if he's mafia.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 23 2013 08:40 GMT
#1545
On January 23 2013 17:39 Toadesstern wrote:
I think he's mafia but the nighthits are retarded as it can get if he's mafia.

that was directed at the annul question...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 23 2013 08:48 GMT
#1546
Well Djdref did make a case on Annul but thats WIFOM.

I dunno I just didnt like the way Annul got pissed at Bugs. I know Bugs was antagonising, but I seen only one other town ragequit before, and he still tried to be helpful before quitting.

When i get home tonight will have a read of Brood and Annul and Gonzaw since those 3 seem to be the higher profile targets for Day2.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 23 2013 08:52 GMT
#1547
I think the problem with Broodking is that he is obviously somewhat active, but no posting other than a few things. I think he may be trying to lurk under the radar. Clarity is different cause he hasnt posted past the first 24 hours IIRC and I think he should get replaced/modkilled.
No gg, No skill.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 23 2013 08:59 GMT
#1548
On January 23 2013 17:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think the problem with Broodking is that he is obviously somewhat active, but no posting other than a few things. I think he may be trying to lurk under the radar. Clarity is different cause he hasnt posted past the first 24 hours IIRC and I think he should get replaced/modkilled.

which is exactly the reason BKE is more of a target than clarity is and which is exactly the reason I totally disagree with bugs PoV on clarity.
Clarity doesn't even care which makes it highly likely that he just has no time.

BKE on the other hand cares enough to not get modkilled and do nothing but that. Unlike Annul he however isn't exactly scummy besides that and I can't really say trying to not get modkilled is a mafiatrait at all... I would be pissed at someone getting modkilled as a townie if he had the possibility to toss in a vote, even if it's a rnd- or selfvote because getting yourself modkilled isn't helpful either...

What I'm trying to say is, it really does look like a mafia (BKE) but I could see him do that as a townie as well I guess which means I'm back at Annul / gonzaw....
Palmar where are you, we need you
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 23 2013 09:16 GMT
#1549
Lol why do you need 5touch? Is it cause he has been the voice of reason? Or cause you too as sheriff and mayor..... ;D
No gg, No skill.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 23 2013 09:23 GMT
#1550
I want to hear what he has to say. Don't mind other people explaining their thoughts about Annul / Gonzaw / BKE at all though. Palmar is just the one I want to see the most.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 10:04 GMT
#1551
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 23 2013 14:50 AxleGreaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 14:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Well I think that the protect roles should just protect who they think needs protecting and not discuss it at all, gives scum an idea on who to nk that is not protected.

And we should stop speculating night kills and strategy.

Annul, I thought you didnt want to waste the 48 hours, so where is your contribution?



Absolutely, we should NOT discuss who we are protecting tonight Last night that didn't work out at all well.

However Bugs DID

Then Toad Conveniently did what was maximally bad and most likely to result in Sherrif and a Doc if there is one protecting the same person.

Toad Claims with logs that cant be verified. That he and Sandroba decided that together.
I find that in itself implausible. I believe Sandroba is better than that. I believe Toad is better than that.

That Scum then happened to luck out and guess who to attack when their other targets were so Low key.. is to me mind boggling lucky.... or it is a plan.

If Toad is scum and takes the sheriff protection off Sandroba, scum kills Sandroba then Toad can claim the logs made him do it.

Exactly how tricky does scum toad make his plans?


I'm suspicious of Toad as well. I just don't see mafia being so precise or lucky with their kills without full knowledge of what he's going to do.

I am against putting a taboo over the NK talk. For the fans of Ockham's : Mafia knew who was going to get jailed and that Bugs was going to be roleblocked, so they shot players like Djo and JX.

Highly unlikely that they thought about 3² variations of WIFOM to determine their targets in such a way.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 10:28 GMT
#1552
On January 23 2013 11:35 annul wrote:
because there is only one mafia jack?


On January 23 2013 11:36 annul wrote:
or, i should say, there is either 0 or 1 mafia jacks. there is not 2.


On January 23 2013 11:37 annul wrote:
"These [potentially] four Mafia power roles must be separately distributed, meaning one Mafia member can only possess one of these powers." from the first page


Scumslip.

? of ? Jacks remaining


##Vote annul
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 10:31 GMT
#1553
In theory there could be multiple mafia jacks?

I see the way he corrected himself as scummy.

If he really thought what he said there he wouldn't have felt the need to immediately justify it afterwards, he justified it cause he knew he slipped.

Mafia suffer from spotlight effect.

annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 23 2013 10:34 GMT
#1554
every post you make makes me more and more certain that my focus on you was a great decision
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 23 2013 10:37 GMT
#1555
"this guy was talking about two jacks. now, this is an absolutely absurd premise from a balance standpoint, so i should quickly inform him he is wrong. i have just done so. hmm... maybe i should double check the rules and make sure. yeah, as expected... but it does say "potentially" so it may even be zero. let's quickly clarify."

this = OMG SCUMSLIP OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

like are you serious
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 10:45 GMT
#1556
That's not even the point. You corrected yourself hastily cause you believed that others would notice how certain you were about there only being one jack.

If there are multiple jacks possible is secondary. If you were so sure of it then you wouldn't have felt the need to correct yourself like that.

Since you didn't mention that you considered the possibility that the third kill was from a town vigi, don't even think about pulling that card now.


@ Toad


Give me an estimation of scumminess among these, put them in preferencial order please:

annul, yamato, gonzaw, mkfuba

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 10:47 GMT
#1557
EBWOP:
On January 23 2013 19:45 Vivax wrote:

If there are multiple jacks possible is secondary. If you were so sure of only one jack then you wouldn't have felt the need to correct yourself like that.

Since you didn't mention the possibility that the third kill was from a town vigi, don't even think about pulling that card now.

annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 23 2013 10:54 GMT
#1558
On January 23 2013 19:45 Vivax wrote:
Since you didn't mention that you considered the possibility that the third kill was from a town vigi, don't even think about pulling that card now.



o rly


On January 23 2013 10:58 annul wrote:
btw mafia has 2 KP, so the third death is either town vig/jack or mafia jack using their shoot power.


said like 45 minutes before the post you are attacking me over:

On January 23 2013 11:36 annul wrote:
or, i should say, there is either 0 or 1 mafia jacks. there is not 2.


annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 23 2013 10:56 GMT
#1559
like do you even read the game before you make attacks?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
January 23 2013 11:00 GMT
#1560
Good, if you seemingly took all the options into consideration, then why did you suddenly say

because there is only one mafia jack?


Thanks for pointing out that it even made less sense for you to say that after your former expressed considerations.
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