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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 01 2013 16:32 GMT
#4121
oh and bugs and I had phrases + keywords figured out for future checks so I could just claim anything that is red
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
February 01 2013 16:32 GMT
#4122
On January 25 2013 02:21 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 02:19 Vivax wrote:
This makes no fucking sense Toad.

You didn't ask "your" DT about his N1 check but doubted the syntax of my PM and what data I get back.

You dare to bombard me with suspicion but the guy you mason didn't tell you anything except his role and you immediately believed it without knowing what feedback he got?

Do you even realize how fucking ridiculous it is what you're claiming?

you still haven't read what I said?

I never masoned a DT. I shot a PM @the hosts because the OP says rolecop, not role+alignment cop.
I'm going to mason the DT next cycle.

Understood?
Or do I have to say it a 4th time?


It was this post btw
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
February 01 2013 16:33 GMT
#4123
Your argument is pointless. Toad is town.

On February 02 2013 01:25 FiveTouch wrote:
I'm not really willing to consider a 3 GF scenario in an already-nerfed setup for town. I don't think BC is that bad at balancing.

We just lynch down my list and win. Oats/fuba today, annul the next day, grush the next, Adam the next. Something like that.

In between you confirm someone as not-mafia OR give us an extra lynch (same difference) if mafia withold their kill.

It's really easy and people need to stop overcomplicating.

Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
February 01 2013 16:33 GMT
#4124
Also Stutters is very likely not-mafia, because if he's mafia he just signed up for a plan that would end up killing him.
Artanis & marv
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 01 2013 16:35 GMT
#4125
On February 02 2013 01:33 FiveTouch wrote:
Also Stutters is very likely not-mafia, because if he's mafia he just signed up for a plan that would end up killing him.

duh, told you I'd rather lynch into one of the green checks than lynch into stutters right now.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 01 2013 16:36 GMT
#4126
grush is pretty certainly town as well for some reason I forgot, am in a game of dota right now.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
February 01 2013 16:36 GMT
#4127
I still trust a green check with 2 godfathers flipped than Stutters being mafia. Although yeah, I'd be lynching Stutters last off the list.
Artanis & marv
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
February 01 2013 16:48 GMT
#4128
When I voted double lynch I really didn't expect us to just settle for a double mislynch.

Scum austin answers every question.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
February 01 2013 16:50 GMT
#4129
On February 02 2013 01:48 mkfuba07 wrote:
When I voted double lynch I really didn't expect us to just settle for a double mislynch.

Scum austin answers every question.


You think there's 3 godfathers in a setup which already required one less mislynch for mafia to win?
Artanis & marv
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
February 01 2013 16:51 GMT
#4130
I do. It filled in all my blanks.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
February 01 2013 16:53 GMT
#4131
On February 02 2013 01:51 mkfuba07 wrote:
I do. It filled in all my blanks.


So at this point in the game, where the guy you sheep as town every single game, and you've done so this entire game - you now suddenly won't sheep me on my plan, despite the fact it guarantees victory, and you won't listen to me that austin is town?

Does that cover it?
Artanis & marv
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
February 01 2013 16:55 GMT
#4132
If I'm somehow alive as the only unconfirmed it means you need to figure out which confirmed it would be who really isn't (if it's not lylo I don't give a shit if I die, but I will fight tooth and nail if it gets to lylo with me unconfirmed (I really don't see that happening though). I just want us to win, so whatever gets us to that point works for me.
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
February 01 2013 16:57 GMT
#4133
It does. I think you're wrong.

While I wouldn't oppose your plan, since I'm almost positive we'd win anyway if we follow it, I think we can win this cycle. There's also the kind of strong personal motivation for me to not be mislynched because it's never happened before, and I like being able to say that XD
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
February 01 2013 16:59 GMT
#4134
On February 02 2013 01:57 mkfuba07 wrote:
It does. I think you're wrong.

While I wouldn't oppose your plan, since I'm almost positive we'd win anyway if we follow it, I think we can win this cycle. There's also the kind of strong personal motivation for me to not be mislynched because it's never happened before, and I like being able to say that XD


This makes no sense. According to my plan, austin doesn't get lynched because he's in the confirmed list.

Scumslip?
Artanis & marv
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
February 01 2013 17:01 GMT
#4135
How is that a scumslip? It makes perfect sense.

You would go through the "unconfirmed" townies first, realize that they're all dead, be left with yourself and toad, and end up lynching austin eventually. It would take like, 3-4 days or something, but you'd eventually get it right. This saves us that time.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
February 01 2013 17:02 GMT
#4136
On February 02 2013 02:01 mkfuba07 wrote:
How is that a scumslip? It makes perfect sense.

You would go through the "unconfirmed" townies first, realize that they're all dead, be left with yourself and toad, and end up lynching austin eventually. It would take like, 3-4 days or something, but you'd eventually get it right. This saves us that time.


Because as I very clearly laid out, we don't have infinite amount of lynches. We have the perfect amount of lynches to lynch all the unconfirmeds.
Artanis & marv
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
February 01 2013 17:15 GMT
#4137
On February 01 2013 23:05 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 22:56 austinmcc wrote:
I agree with leaving Vivax up until later, and playing the safer game there.

But the "confirmed townie" list isn't as large as you're making it.


It is, and it's this attitude that might stop mafia from conceding. Anyway, here's my notes I drew up:

10-1

FiveTouch
Toad
Vivax
austin
debears

annul
mkfuba
adam
grush
oats
stutters

8-1, 7-1 - Toad confirms someone not mafia (say Stutters)

FiveTouch
Toad
debears
austin
stutters

adam
grush
oats


6-1, 5-1

FiveTouch
Toad
austin
stutters

Oats
grush

4-1, 3-1

FiveTouch
Toad
Stutters

Oats

Lynch for the win. Note, if mafia hold their shot so Stutters (or whoever Toad jails) isn't confirmed, there's 2 lynches at the end and not just 1.




In case Vivax is mafia:

10-1

FiveTouch
Toad
Vivax
austin
debears

annul
mkfuba
adam
grush
oats
stutters

8-1, 7-1 - Vivax confirms Stutters

FiveTouch
Toad
Vivax
austin
stutters

adam
grush
oats

6-1, 5-1 - Vivax confirms grush

FiveTouch
Toad
Vivax
stutters
grush

Oats

Lynch Vivax + Oats next 2 days, game over.

In both of these cases, austin dies. Did I misunderstand something in here somewhere?

Oh shit, I did. Looked down the list and saw austin dead either way. (you have austin dying in one shot in each scenario, btw. It would take two, remember?)

Well then I disagree with your plan, and say we should definitely lynch austin today.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
February 01 2013 17:28 GMT
#4138
ok, fuba.

Except no.
Artanis & marv
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
February 01 2013 17:42 GMT
#4139
That was poorly explained, but it should be evidence of my sincerity that I didn't make sure it's exactly what I wanted to say before posting it.

When I looked at your post, I scanned down each list, saw austin dead, and that was enough for me. I didn't actually follow along with it. Now I realize you assume austin dying to NKs (you'll have to adjust your notes a bit in that case). I still think you guys would figure it out eventually, but if you're just going to blindly assume that there isn't a 3rd godfather when all the evidence points to it, then I'd rather not risk it. Swap out stutters for austin in that first scenario, last day, and that's how I see that day ending. You lynch oats, austin shoots one of you, austin wins.

If you throw this game away after the lead we have, and all the sheeping I did to get here, I'm going to be incredibly angry.

Lynch me immediately tomorrow if austin flips veteran, because I'm apparently useless as town. But lynch austin today.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
February 01 2013 17:45 GMT
#4140
Silence, austin saved the kittens from being splattered by the anchor.
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