EPTTL Mafia LIX - Page 208
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
What do you see changing your mind regarding austin in the days to come? When you reach this point: 3-1 FiveTouch Toad austin oats What do you see yourself doing? Because according to the plan you're lynching oats. That loses the game. Did you read what I wrote about him? None of my points has ever been disputed regarding austin. The only thing holding the votes back is his claim, which he was incredibly overeager to present. He knew that, which is why he claimed at such a pointless time. He was afraid, and he made a mistake. That manner of that claim was a scumtell. He killed yamato because yamato was the only one strongly opposing him. Everything makes perfect sense. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
What does that mean to you? | ||
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Vivax
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If there's 3 GF then this is a semi-troll setup. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 02 2013 03:10 mkfuba07 wrote: The remaining scum isn't afraid of a DT. They found a mason who was tunneling austin to be a more important NK. What does that mean to you? they might want us to think they're not afraid of the DT because they know they can't win any other way? Or the DT is mafia himself. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On February 02 2013 03:10 mkfuba07 wrote: The remaining scum isn't afraid of a DT. They found a mason who was tunneling austin to be a more important NK. What does that mean to you? It means I super-duper pinky-homo promise to look into austin very hard if you and Oats flip town. | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On February 02 2013 03:31 mkfuba07 wrote: Ugh. Either way, I've proven that it's not impossible for mafia to win. This method is flawed, and we're being lazy. Didn't you say that the double lynch was supposed to get people talking? This is the exact opposite of what you proposed. And you're lynching the only person who's doing any talking. Only under the premise that there's 3 godfathers, which I outright refuse to accept. So no ^^ | ||
yamato77
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On February 02 2013 03:10 mkfuba07 wrote: The remaining scum isn't afraid of a DT. They found a mason who was tunneling austin to be a more important NK. What does that mean to you? THE TUNNELING. IT BURNS ME On January 31 2013 11:11 yamato77 wrote: You're less likely mafia after the flip, but not completely off the hook. At this point, with the people I'm looking at, it's a scum grading system, and grush just jumped to the top. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
As in: They didn't get a number like "4" and were told they can choose what the roles are on top of that, correct? Probably best to quote the right one and say something along the lines of "yeah, that one" :p | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
Quiz Time: Can anyone tell me who else responded to one of my good posts while commenting on only the least important aspects of it? + Show Spoiler + On January 30 2013 15:25 AxleGreaser wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 30 2013 14:22 mkfuba07 wrote: Annul The town annul explanation is far more feasible. I'm about 95% more inclined to believe that town annul had a significant oversight and had trouble explaining himself than I am to believe that scum annul risked his life quite blatantly to save someone who ultimately was likely going to be lynched anyway. Without commenting on the accuracy or presence or lack of holes in your argument. Why did you make it, or more specifically why did you post it in the thread? On January 30 2013 15:30 AxleGreaser wrote: Why has it been doing that.... ? Ahh because you are currently not voting for your top scum read... " If I had to say who I feel most likely to flip scum at the moment, I would say austin. " If austin is town, he's played literally the most unfortunate game of mafia ever. His actions D1 fit perfectly into what we now know to be the scum goals. 100% perfectly! The votes right now are based solely on setup speculation. If three godfathers wasn't unlikely, every single person would be voting for austin based on his D1 alone. I don't even know how to explain anymore how perfectly he fits the scumteam. At least when I sheep I've thought about it long and hard. Those single posts take me hours to write because I keep going back through filters, seeing what fits and what doesn't. Half of the time I just delete the whole thing because I decide it's wrong or inconclusive, and I start over. It's probably not the best method of playing mafia because it doesn't give me a very strong town presence, but I put the effort in. This sheeping from town just feels lazy. Marv is really good, I know. That's why I sheep him anytime we're in a game together. But he's not infallible (BKE, me, most likely oats), and I haven't seen a reason to set oats and I above austin on his scumdar. He's just decided to lynch up the list, and as I've already said, that will lose us the game. Why not just lynch scum? | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On February 02 2013 05:46 mkfuba07 wrote: You expect me to believe yamato wasn't still suspicious of you? As scum, he was your biggest threat, though I don't even know how he came to the conclusion that you were less scummy at that point. The flip just confirmed that your scumbuddy did exactly what you were trying to persuade townies to do: vote for chez, and then vote for gonzaw. It's telling that you picked up on the only part of my argument that I knew could be contested though. It means you know it too. Quiz Time: Can anyone tell me who else responded to one of my good posts while commenting on only the least important aspects of it? + Show Spoiler + On January 30 2013 15:25 AxleGreaser wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 30 2013 14:22 mkfuba07 wrote: Annul The town annul explanation is far more feasible. I'm about 95% more inclined to believe that town annul had a significant oversight and had trouble explaining himself than I am to believe that scum annul risked his life quite blatantly to save someone who ultimately was likely going to be lynched anyway. Without commenting on the accuracy or presence or lack of holes in your argument. Why did you make it, or more specifically why did you post it in the thread? On January 30 2013 15:30 AxleGreaser wrote: Why has it been doing that.... ? Ahh because you are currently not voting for your top scum read... " If I had to say who I feel most likely to flip scum at the moment, I would say austin. " If austin is town, he's played literally the most unfortunate game of mafia ever. His actions D1 fit perfectly into what we now know to be the scum goals. 100% perfectly! The votes right now are based solely on setup speculation. If three godfathers wasn't unlikely, every single person would be voting for austin based on his D1 alone. I don't even know how to explain anymore how perfectly he fits the scumteam. At least when I sheep I've thought about it long and hard. Those single posts take me hours to write because I keep going back through filters, seeing what fits and what doesn't. Half of the time I just delete the whole thing because I decide it's wrong or inconclusive, and I start over. It's probably not the best method of playing mafia because it doesn't give me a very strong town presence, but I put the effort in. This sheeping from town just feels lazy. Marv is really good, I know. That's why I sheep him anytime we're in a game together. But he's not infallible (BKE, me, most likely oats), and I haven't seen a reason to set oats and I above austin on his scumdar. He's just decided to lynch up the list, and as I've already said, that will lose us the game. Why not just lynch scum? No, I'm simply pointing out that you're a bit blinded. You said earlier He killed yamato because yamato was the only one strongly opposing him. I was showing you that yamato had backed off. You're distorting the situation because you either think I'm scum or want to get me mislynched.Like when you say As scum, [Yamato] was your biggest threat WHAT!?!?!?!? Look at what you are saying. There is one scum left. There is a mayor with three votes, there is a jail left, there is an active DT, there are two bodyguards. Not only am I not scum, but if I were, yamato wouldn't have been "the biggest threat." (Even in magical 3-GF land, having two invulnerable townies, one of whom can triple vote, which is the world you're pushing, is kind of a bigger deal).Look at your other statements: every single person would be voting for austin based on his D1 alone This is false (I know I wouldn't be voting for me). Moreover, it's silly. That statement amounts to, "If we didn't have all the information we do, everyone would be voting for austin." We DO have more than D1. We SHOULD be looking at more than D1. The only thing holding the votes back is his claim Go read the pages where I first got suspicified. Suspicions --> others saying "no, he's town" --> suspicions --> claim. You're again distorting things to fit this idea that I'm scum. At no point has anyone ever said that they weren't voting me because I claimed vet (afaik). They're not voting me because (a) they think I'm town and/or (b) vivax checked me.His actions D1 fit perfectly into what we now know to be the scum goals. The scum goals of...what? Not getting any mafia elected? I actually really want to know what these "scum goals" were. Because so far, no mafia has flipped and said "Hey town, here were our goals this game." So what are these goals, besides "Win", and how did my play fit into them? You are missing the forest AND the trees. Some of what you are saying is straight up wrong, because you're overlooking posts or overlooking the specific times at which things happened. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 02 2013 06:10 austinmcc wrote: I will not, however, argue that I have played a VERY unfortunate game of mafia up until this point. I don't like posts like that. Makes it look like you're going to change, which won't happen  | ||
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