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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 29 2013 16:27 GMT
#3641
Also Mocsta can you provide the timestamp for the first PM Annul responded with? Thanks.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 29 2013 16:28 GMT
#3642
On January 30 2013 01:27 Stutters695 wrote:
Also Mocsta can you provide the timestamp for the first PM Annul responded with? Thanks.


Still not reading the thread? Mocsta is dead.
Artanis & marv
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 29 2013 16:31 GMT
#3643
Oh goddamnit. I was working when the day post happened. Read it and moved on.

Annul what time did you send the PM?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 29 2013 16:31 GMT
#3644
On January 30 2013 01:28 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 01:27 Stutters695 wrote:
Also Mocsta can you provide the timestamp for the first PM Annul responded with? Thanks.


Still not reading the thread? Mocsta is dead.

that could be a mafiaploy! Don't make it a townread on stutters please :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 29 2013 16:32 GMT
#3645
Stutters, dearest, it's very hard to take what you say seriously when you keep missing large thread events like who Vivax checked and who died... ^^
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 29 2013 16:33 GMT
#3646
On January 30 2013 01:31 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 01:28 FiveTouch wrote:
On January 30 2013 01:27 Stutters695 wrote:
Also Mocsta can you provide the timestamp for the first PM Annul responded with? Thanks.


Still not reading the thread? Mocsta is dead.

that could be a mafiaploy! Don't make it a townread on stutters please :p


:/ lol. Guess what i just wrote in my spreadsheet...

Missed that Mocsta is dead... could be cunning mafia ploy, but probably stupid townie.
Artanis & marv
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 29 2013 16:39 GMT
#3647
Well other than that I asked a dead guy something, what do you think about what I said?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 29 2013 16:40 GMT
#3648
can't call me stupid anymore after this game. We do think alike after all.

I mean for all I care you can still call me stupid every now and then but I'll do the "stop hitting yourself" and link to this game / to this post :3
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 29 2013 16:45 GMT
#3649
On January 30 2013 01:26 Stutters695 wrote:
This is pure WIFOM but the only thing that gives me pause about an annul lynch is how obviously of a bad play it was for scum if he knew BKE would flip town. He pretty much asked us to keep scum at 2kp another night without suggesting a solid case for the double lynch. Surely he'd know how bad that would bite him in the ass as soon as the flip happened?

But his lack of truly explaining why he kept his bomb on chez and the convenience of his claim from a scum perspective (no way to verify other than role cop) doesn't look good. Additionally the whole mason thing with Mocsta didn't sit right with me. At the time it was hard to explain since he just abruptly stopped talking to Mocsta so he wouldn't potentially get framed. That's all well and good, but why wouldn't he push him after. He said another Mason was scum, voted Mocsta (mason) and tried to save Chez (confirmed scum mason). These are an awful lot of coincidences in addition to not being a very town player in general.


There's not that much to say about it because it's essentially correct. I still think he might be town, but I'll feel exceptionally dumb if he turns out to be mafia. It's like he's actively sabotaging himself and I don't understand the mafia motivation for doing so. The whole mad hatter thing drew massive amounts of attention to himself. Was it really worth it for possibly having one extra KP, when even this wasn't likely at all? Why make the play at all? It makes me tentatively lean on townie doing some really fucking stupid things instead.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 29 2013 16:46 GMT
#3650
On January 30 2013 01:40 Toadesstern wrote:
can't call me stupid anymore after this game. We do think alike after all.

I mean for all I care you can still call me stupid every now and then but I'll do the "stop hitting yourself" and link to this game / to this post :3


The worst of it is that we both used the words "mafia ploy". I might kill myself
Artanis & marv
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 29 2013 16:50 GMT
#3651
I think vivax might like that
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 29 2013 16:55 GMT
#3652
snore.

i did not use my role in a bad way. my role usage is perfectly fine. if i have ANY bad marks on my play, it's not recognizing that the BKE got lynched without a single defender... it was way too easy and i should have picked up on the fact that he had not even one player at his back for the lynch, and thus may not be mafia. but this bad mark is on the entire town, not just me.

assuming BKE was mafia, like 100% of the players here did (i may have missed a defender, but i doubt it), then there is literally no reason at all to have killed chez yesterday. none. mafia KP remains at 1 and chez does not hold any town powers, he isn't trusted, he's essentially already dead, just with a voice and one vote. that's it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
January 29 2013 16:56 GMT
#3653
Toad, did you look into Axle's willingness to vote gonzaw before the check? What are your results?
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 29 2013 16:57 GMT
#3654
On January 30 2013 01:55 annul wrote:
snore.

i did not use my role in a bad way. my role usage is perfectly fine. if i have ANY bad marks on my play, it's not recognizing that the BKE got lynched without a single defender... it was way too easy and i should have picked up on the fact that he had not even one player at his back for the lynch, and thus may not be mafia. but this bad mark is on the entire town, not just me.

assuming BKE was mafia, like 100% of the players here did (i may have missed a defender, but i doubt it), then there is literally no reason at all to have killed chez yesterday. none. mafia KP remains at 1 and chez does not hold any town powers, he isn't trusted, he's essentially already dead, just with a voice and one vote. that's it.


This is precisely why I told you no-one is confirmed red until they flip. We must lynch our strongest scumreads, because we need to know what they flip for certain. That's why we had to lynch Chezinu, it's really obvious.

As for the BKE lynch, do you really think the other two mafia would stick their neck out to defend him? That's an absurd notion.
Artanis & marv
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 29 2013 17:01 GMT
#3655
IF BKE was mafia, when the first accusation went against him (i think it was someone saying "yeah you're definitely mafia" as a one-liner right after one of his posts), people may have tried to sway people off of him. i can see a world where they do this, yes. i would as scum anyway.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 29 2013 17:02 GMT
#3656
btw when i say " i can see a world where they do this, yes. i would as scum anyway." i dont mean immediately at the first accusation, but in general
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
January 29 2013 17:04 GMT
#3657
On January 30 2013 02:01 annul wrote:
IF BKE was mafia, when the first accusation went against him (i think it was someone saying "yeah you're definitely mafia" as a one-liner right after one of his posts), people may have tried to sway people off of him. i can see a world where they do this, yes. i would as scum anyway.


On January 21 2013 14:04 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 13:38 Toadesstern wrote:
Do you honestly think Vivax would be send out by his (supposedly) mafia team for a candacy as mayor?
Do you honestly think Vivax would be so carefree as mafia to candidate for mayor and not post for the next *idk* bunch of hours?
Don't you think Vivax would have been way to scared to candidate for mayor as mafia? Especially given his recent game as mafia that he, against all odds still won due to massive town modkills.
Do you honestly think Vivax would be dropping a vote like that if he has multiple people in irc / QT / whatever to ask on who to vote? With that "reasoning" he provided? Sure it's bullshit, it's one of the most retarded posts I've seen in this game so far but do you really think he'd do that as mafia?



[image loading]


Never forget.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 29 2013 17:05 GMT
#3658
On January 30 2013 02:04 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 02:01 annul wrote:
IF BKE was mafia, when the first accusation went against him (i think it was someone saying "yeah you're definitely mafia" as a one-liner right after one of his posts), people may have tried to sway people off of him. i can see a world where they do this, yes. i would as scum anyway.


Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 14:04 annul wrote:
On January 21 2013 13:38 Toadesstern wrote:
Do you honestly think Vivax would be send out by his (supposedly) mafia team for a candacy as mayor?
Do you honestly think Vivax would be so carefree as mafia to candidate for mayor and not post for the next *idk* bunch of hours?
Don't you think Vivax would have been way to scared to candidate for mayor as mafia? Especially given his recent game as mafia that he, against all odds still won due to massive town modkills.
Do you honestly think Vivax would be dropping a vote like that if he has multiple people in irc / QT / whatever to ask on who to vote? With that "reasoning" he provided? Sure it's bullshit, it's one of the most retarded posts I've seen in this game so far but do you really think he'd do that as mafia?



[image loading]


Never forget.


Your best post of the game, Vivax :D
Artanis & marv
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 29 2013 17:07 GMT
#3659
how the fuck is it WIFOM to respond DIRECTLY to a question about whether i "really think" a mafia "would do something"
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 29 2013 17:08 GMT
#3660
there is a massive difference between "do you think X ACTIVE PLAYER IN THE GAME would make Y move in Z role" and "assuming X DEAD player was a different role, do you think other players in that role would make Y move in Z situation?"
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