EPTTL Mafia LIX - Page 176
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
 To answer mocsta's questions (sorry it's... er... late): I was asking for logs for a comparison. I was still unsure about mocsta's alignment, and I found it unlikely that scum chenizu and scum mocsta would have prepared an extra set of convo logs. I wanted yamato's to compare the two, which was why I was waiting for his. Mocsta responded so quickly I doubted they were faked, but a fake conversation between two scum would look different than a true convo between a scum and a townie. I wanted to see them anyway just to gain any information I could, but I accepted FT and yamato's responses, since I'd found someone I was more interested in. I've got a case on austin coming up, but it could take a bit. Or I could just post the first bit and discuss it while writing up the next bit? I'll probably do that. @FT: It was obvious for me. But I also thought his actions were reasonable at the time. If we could have found someone else to lynch, I would probably have voted differently based on my annul read. You're making me question him now, though. Especially the quote vivax pointed out. | ||
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Vivax
22089 Posts
On January 29 2013 11:31 FiveTouch wrote: No, but annul claimed Mad Hatter on day 3. Going into day 3, he hadn't yet. If you take aside your tunnels, and before annul claimed, did you think there was any realistic likelihood of those 2 not getting lynched? If so, who did you think was getting lynched day 3? Anyone who I claimed to have checked as red had the potential of getting lynched. I could be crazy enough to fakeclaim if I'm sure that it gets scum lynched. Grush knows that, I told him I might do it. But I decided to tell the truth in the end. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
If no one's lynching Austin, I'm all for lynching Annul. | ||
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Vivax
22089 Posts
On January 26 2013 00:21 annul wrote: debears, grush, toad, BKE 3/4 are mafia calling it now On January 26 2013 02:25 annul wrote: hey WBG and fivetouch and toad who are your top three scum reads pl0x On January 26 2013 02:56 annul wrote: okay, so you both have top 3 of: Chez, BKE mkfuba fivetouch? On January 26 2013 03:10 annul wrote: oatsmaster if you are around, top 3 scum reads please Annul scouting for opinions on tomorrow's lynch, in the end he decided to pick the one who didn't coincide with his earlier reads. Either he sheeped as town, or he fakeclaimed. | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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Vivax
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 29 2013 11:41 Vivax wrote: Anyone who I claimed to have checked as red had the potential of getting lynched. I could be crazy enough to fakeclaim if I'm sure that it gets scum lynched. Grush knows that, I told him I might do it. But I decided to tell the truth in the end. Alright. Forget you're DT for the moment. Say you're some random townie, a mad hatter. All the town leaders want to lynch the same two players. No-one is disagreeing with them. There's the possibility of some cop (you) having a check, but whatever. It's looking monumentally likely Chez/BKE are getting lynched. Do you place your bomb on one of them, or some 3rd guy, who could be mafia? | ||
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Vivax
22089 Posts
FiveTouch - 7 DearestSnot FiveTouch debears JieXian mkfuba07 yamato77 prplhz austinmcc - 3 Oatsmaster austinmcc sandroba Chezinu - 2 Chezinu grush57 Toadesstern - 4 Toadesstern Vivax Stutters695 djodref gonzaw - 3 Gonzaw mocsta axlegreaser annul - 1 annul Why didn't annul try to get his buddies elected if he's indeed scum? I don't see that vote make sense for mafia. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 29 2013 11:46 grush57 wrote: Why no check annul or austin? did you mason me? | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 29 2013 11:52 Vivax wrote: I just checked the voting thread. Why didn't annul try to get his buddies elected if he's indeed scum? I don't see that vote make sense for mafia. I agree, this is the strongest cases for annul not being mafia. | ||
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Vivax
22089 Posts
He could have managed to elect gonzaw or austin into position together with Chez. If you think about it, a townie in pole position like both of them could be effectively framed by getting elected this way by a scum right before dying. That actually speaks for austinmcc being scum cause they were afraid of forcing his election. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On January 22 2013 09:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Day 1 Votecount FiveTouch - 7 DearestSnot FiveTouch debears JieXian mkfuba07 yamato77 prplhz austinmcc - 3 Oatsmaster austinmcc sandroba Chezinu - 1 grush57 Toadesstern - 4 Toadesstern Vivax Stutters695 djodref gonzaw - 4 Chezinu Gonzaw mocsta axlegreaser annul - 1 annul Let me color in that votecount for you, because what you're suggesting is that every mafia would have piled on Gonzaw to get him elected, which is obviously not true. You guys are rehashing the same argument. There's 2 unconfirmed mafia on that list somewhere. They could have Gotten Gonzaw elected, but they didn't. It's not a good argument to say someone is town just because they didn't vote for Gonzaw. Posted this in the wrong thread, derp. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Mkfuba, Why did you write this? both Mocsta and Chez flipped already, so this is really useless. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 29 2013 12:00 Vivax wrote: For prplhz it made sense to not get one of them elected, it would look super fishy after his lynch. He could have managed to elect gonzaw or austin into position together with Chez. If you think about it, a townie in pole position like both of them could be effectively framed by getting elected this way by a scum right before dying. That actually speaks for austinmcc being scum cause they were afraid of forcing his election. Vivax, this is ridiculously speculative :/ Mafia didn't want an un-DTable, shot-proof, jailing protection because being elected is suspicious? Come on. I mean, just to note, that's 3 roleblocks on any outed DT/medic or whatever that mafia were forfeiting for some wifom-y reason. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
Unless you or Toad are mafia, they didn't get someone elected, even if you think they wanted to. YOU are the one being speculative here. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 29 2013 12:06 yamato77 wrote: Let me color in that votecount for you, because what you're suggesting is that every mafia would have piled on Gonzaw to get him elected, which is obviously not true. You guys are rehashing the same argument. There's 2 unconfirmed mafia on that list somewhere. They could have Gotten Gonzaw elected, but they didn't. It's not a good argument to say someone is town just because they didn't vote for Gonzaw. Posted this in the wrong thread, derp. What do you think about what I've been saying about annul's bomb? | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
What the fuck are you doing, marv? | ||
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Vivax
22089 Posts
1) Getting one of theirs elected instead of Toad 2) Framing austinmcc for later. Unless you think that Toad is scum I don't see them acting like this. Maybe prplhz played against his own team cause you are scum and he was pissed that you bussed him D1. That is speculative. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
Because looking at what happened, unless I think Toad is mafia (I don't), then you're the only other option. | ||
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