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On January 27 2013 07:49 Vivax wrote:
I don't think medic gets confirmation if the target dies.
But yeah, I just realized I made a mistake in thinking, forget what I just posted about medic not claiming if he targeted Bugs.
If the medic targeted Bugs we know for sure that BKE is town, actually.
Toad looked SO sure that Bugs hadn't been targeted though.
This is the thing, you get so wrapped up in your blind paranoia that you won't listen to the basic sense that I'm trying to talk about.
As to your following post, it also seems unlikely that bugs was doublestacked, simply because in this position mafia seriously need to get killing townies.
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Sure. Chezinu is very likely to be mafia, yamato is not.
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Why don't you just read the multitude of posts bugs wrote on him? I can go re-post a load of those if it makes you happy.
Chezinu has no reads, he's not involved in town, and he continues to have no reads. He doesn't participate with town in the slightest, like he normally does. Chezinu is known for being a troll of sorts, but also very perceptive and with very accurate reads. Yet he has displayed absolutely none of these qualities here. What has Chezinu done for the last several days? Absolutely nothing. In addition he screwed around with the mayoral voting on Day 1, bugs found the fact he voted gonzaw incriminating, I found his general jumping incriminating (when I played mafia with him in NMM3, he did many last-minute votes). He claimed to want to kill prplhz, yet refused to vote the candidate who wanted to vote prplhz (me), claiming he didn't understand what or who was running, despite quoting a bugs quote which had him voting for me. He also canvassed for prplhz's vote despite wanting to kill him.
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On January 27 2013 08:11 AxleGreaser wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 07:55 Vivax wrote:
Yeah, well whatever. We'll be lynching BKE today.
As for the other target, we should start to talk about that.
As you see, I want to lynch yamato.
Can I hear reasons for not lynching him? I cant think of one
Wait, you're telling me you can't think of one reason yamato is town?
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On January 27 2013 08:14 Stutters695 wrote:
FT Do you consider it worth it to lose a mad hatter to lynch chez? Annul made a pretty good point about safety in having you and him alive towards lylo as long as we ensure mafia has 1kp from now on.
Given I'm pretty sure Chezinu is mafia and not at all sure anyone out of yam/axle/mocsta/debears etc. is mafia, yes. Saving a mad hatter bomb isn't a good enough reason not to lynch a strong mafia read.
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How do you read that as 'so upset'?
I was expressing disbelief that he couldn't think of a single reason yamato was town. As can be seen, that wasn't what he was saying at all anyway.
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Well, then that simply adds up with what we think already. Given where we're at, I don't see any harm in it whatsoever.
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On January 27 2013 20:24 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 18:09 annul wrote:
AND HEY TOWN: please stop voting chez today. there is literally no reason whatsoever to vote him today. none. save my bomb and pile onto him on a future day if we absolutely whiff today. an active hatter is much more important to have in a potential late game scenario. your bomb just won't trigger no matter what if you're telling the truth. Mafia is not going to shoot you and we're not going to lynch you. Have fun being a VT.
Pretty much this.
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On January 27 2013 18:23 Mocsta wrote:AND.. if you want the PM I sent to FT regarding Chez before Night 2 ended here it is to confirm my thoughts on Chezinu Show nested quote +Mocsta: Subject: chezinu innocence
Date: 1/25/13 23:49
Hey. Last pm from me before cycle finishes.
I had a brain wave and wanted to pass it by u. If u agree with logic and i die tonight u r welcome to post this in the thread.
Day1 two masons contacted chez.
Day2 the same two masons contacted u.
U think both masons are town... If chez was mafia. Why werent me and the other mason killed?
Neither of us would have a chance to communicate we contacted chezinu.. So would be easy one or two blue kills...
I thought of this because someone suggested jx may have been an attempted blue snipe. If chez was scum it would make sense in my mind to hit me instead of jx...hence i think chezinu is now innocent.
P.s thanks for listening to my rambles on the pm . I enjoyed this cycle a lot. Good luck with day 3
Hi Mocsta, you should check out the conversation me and bugs had about this in-thread, if you haven't already.
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There's fewer than 11 hours left, and all you're doing now is causing confusion. You are in fact stifling town, because basically everyone is just waiting for you to reveal your check.
Players like Axlegreaser and Adam are australian, and are either asleep already, or shortly going to sleep, and won't be awake much before the deadline. For whatever egotistical reason, you're denying them the opportunity to digest the check you have.
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Mocsta, a note from your mayor:
Stop responding to Vivax.
Already Axlegreaser has had to go to sleep without knowing who the redcheck supposedly is. This is simply a disgrace.
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It's ok Oats, we have two excellent lynches for today. Vivax can be dealt with post-game:
On January 15 2013 06:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Play to win.
This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.
You have been warned.
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On January 28 2013 00:22 Vivax wrote:
Have it: There was no check yesterday, the check was on Bugs.
I'm not going to act like most people here and head like a zombie towards the next lynch without discussing other options and depriving the MH of his bomb. Pro town ftw yeah.
Also, Mocsta is scum.
What a terrible check.
I am considering policy lynching you tomorrow, depending on the results of today's lynches. There's only so much blatantly playing against town wincon you can do before you have to be mafia.
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Mocsta, leave it please.
In any case, now we can genuinely look for the 5th mafia.
Vivax has been preventing the town doing so for the last 38 hours, as town was waiting for his redcheck. Now we can finally move on.
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I'd like Vivax in particular and people in general to read this.
On August 04 2012 00:47 Palmar wrote:
Non-top town players aren't terrible, they're just less adept at coming up with solutions, that doesn't mean they're incapable of recognizing a correct solution when it's presented to them by a top town player. Which is why killing town heads is so important.
One amazing town player, can make 10 decent townies good. Almost everyone in this game is at least decent or good, so all it takes is someone to lead them, then they WILL recognize what is correct and what is not, and steamroll the mafia.
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On January 28 2013 00:57 Mocsta wrote:
ooo.. do we need to vote double lynch again for day 4?
I hadn't even thought about this. Perhaps it's best we wait until today's lynches and tonight resolves before we have another double lynch. I don't see the harm in not double-lynching tomorrow, and seeing where we stand and deciding then.
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On January 28 2013 01:15 annul wrote:
well fuck, i still think you should not vote chezinu. there is LITERALLY only a potential neg negative about a chez lynch today. mafia do not get any extra KP for his survival today.
The problem is, neither you nor anyone else has put forward a convincing case for anyone else being mafia.
Plus Chezinu's mason flip gives us more information on the alignment of other masons.
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On January 28 2013 01:20 annul wrote:
you have a short list of suspected reds. if you systematically go down that list, we will get to the end before mafia ever kills us all off.
Chezinu's death gives us a lot of information on the shortlist.
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Because no-one is confirmed red until they flip. Not prplhz, not gonzaw, not BKE, and not Chezinu.
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