On January 22 2013 07:11 Xatalos wrote:I have to go sleep now, so unfortunately I can't wait for the deadline. But here are my current reads anyway (although I think most likely WBG or MrZentor is NK'd tonight).
MrZentor is confirmed town, so there's no point to talk about him. I'm fairly certain that WBG is town as well. He's been the most influential and active poster ever since D2, yet he hasn't done anything alarming during this time, which feels like an almost impossible task for Mafia. He's also been constantly pushing town agenda by actively discussing, controlling the voting process and sharing reads. I haven't played with iamperfection before, but his play seems very similar to his earlier town play and he's been reasonably active, so I think he's town for now.
I had to do some re-evaluation after Hopeless flipped town, so I think scum could be among any of these following players, but some are more likely scum than others.
jaybrundageI didn't like his D1 play at all, but he started to focus on scumhunting during N1 and D2. Then he almost completely stopped posting (apparently internet problems or something), although his rare posts were okayish. I think it's plausible for him to flip scum, but not likely enough to make him a decent lynch.
LazermonkeyHe's been a top suspect for most of the game, but I just couldn't see Kush behaving the way he did as scum. There aren't many choices left anymore, though, so by process of elimination (and lack of anything to really make me think of Lazermonkey as town) Lazermonkey has an okayish chance of flipping scum.
HapahauliIf we look at just this one game, Hapahauli has played decently: pushed his scumreads, analyzed, posted a fairly good amount of content. But something is wrong. He has posted less and less frequently since the beginning (it's characteristic of scum to degrade in activity over time), led two mislynches (despite being a really good player) and used unusually bad logic (despite him usually having constantly sound logic):
Show nested quote +On January 13 2013 12:34 kushm4sta wrote:
hapa you aren't acting townie. You are actively pushing logical falsehoods for some reason and I don't get why. A more spammy version of the dumb or scum conundrum.
I'm just pointing out how your logic is bad. ---->I was useless as scum, i'm useless right now, therefore I must be scum.
Bad reasoning.. one example of many in the thread so far.
@hapa are you saying stupid shit just because you like to talk a lot? why are you using bad logic?
None of these things were present when I played with town Hapa before! There's always the chance that he's just really having a bad game, but with all these combined, it feels like too much of a coincidence. A decent lynch IMO.
grush57He actually has 5 pages of filter but (almost) nothing valuable in all those posts. Mostly it's just fluff, vague remarks and other unhelpful small talk. He also flip-flops on his reads constantly and almost never gives reasoning for his reads and/or for the changes in them. This is a good example:
Show nested quote +On January 19 2013 11:54 grush57 wrote:On January 19 2013 10:27 iamperfection wrote:
im pretty sure hapa isnt scum at this point. I thought there was a possibility of him being sk but with that eliminated i think it is likely that he is town.
## Vote hopeless
You can die hopeless you are making no sense because you are scum.
this guy is scum.
Also because hopeless is too...
##Vote: Hopeless1dr He is confident in Hopeless flipping scum (apparently?). But then:
Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 02:54 grush57 wrote:
I'll go for a lazermonkey lynch.
##Unvote
##Vote: lazermonkey
Also Mr. Zentor you are a confirmed town and you are doing absolute jack shit with it.
Jumping off the wagon for some reason (Hopeless' recent surge of activity?) when a good opportunity presents itself. No real reasoning for this HUGE change from clear scum -> don't lynch! Of course he can look better after Hopeless flips town, right?
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Then we have to also consider grush's recent push for Hapa. I think it's weird for him to do that if they're both scum (not impossible but somewhat unlikely), so more likely one of them is scum and one is town. Hapa hasn't played up to his meta, but he has still played much better than pretty much anyone else, so I'd say grush is the safer lynch right now. And *safe* is the keyword at LYLO... There are no second chances anymore.