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On January 21 2013 11:15 Hapahauli wrote: @ WBG How did you go from this on grush: To this: I went back and reread after the flip, grush looks bad regardless of the flip. At first I thought that perhaps he might look worse for defending a scum Hopeless, but he looks worse either way; the timing was too convenient. | ||
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That's almost never true. I can't see any of the Hopeless voters being scum. That leaves grush plus whoever was on Lazer. | ||
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My talk about whether my town reads were wrong or not was me doubting Hopeless being scum over the fact that I found the voters on Lazer to be townier than the voters on Hopeless. Tell me, how are you going to judge players this game by content when literally half the player base has done nothing? Can you name something that grush has done? Or Zentor? Or Xatalos? Or jay? Or Lazer? Their contributions are nonexistent, there are only small things that you can come up with and they are pretty waffly either way. The only reason Zentor is town is because he is mason. The other 3? Who knows what they are. The votecounts are quite useful in this type of situation and far more useful than you make them out to be. | ||
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I'm not going to get shot tonight either since Zentor is confirmed town. | ||
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Confirmed town > anything at lylo. That's one person you can't lynch. | ||
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Let's kill grush today. we have: myself iamp Xata Jay Hapa Lazer grush In rough order of towniness, though I honestly have no idea where to put Hapa. He didn't come back with reads despite promising to do so and that degrades him considerably. ##vote grush57 | ||
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On January 22 2013 10:42 iamperfection wrote: any ideas on how we can spur activity. not really, this has been a problem for me 3 games in a row. Around this point in the game the town just becomes void of everything because anyone who would have talked is already dead. | ||
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On January 22 2013 10:45 iamperfection wrote: and yet here we stand bugs. I was going through your games bugs and unless the database is wrong you haven't played a scum game in quite some time. yup, not since Space Station Mafia. I don't actually like playing mafia all that much. On January 22 2013 10:50 jaybrundage wrote: I have a great fucking idea. How about we spam shit up while im here. WBG thoughts on Iamps suspicious of hapa? I think it's fairly warranted but I'm not sure how much to suspect him simply based on the Hopeless flip. He hasn't done anything outside of push Hopeless, and it's very weird that he isn't around now, that his activity has dropped immensely, and that he didn't do his promised read-dump. On January 22 2013 10:50 jaybrundage wrote: Both of you whats your guess for the scum team? 3 of grush, Hapa, Xatalos, Lazer. In that order from scummiest to towniest. Grush I think is almost 100% scum. On January 22 2013 10:50 jaybrundage wrote: WBG and Lamp what are you thoughts on Lazer? He's been fairly scummy all game but there are certain things that I found odd for scum to say. I was suspicious of kush too...but some things don't add up. On January 22 2013 10:50 jaybrundage wrote: And lol on Lamps comment thats a good point. Hapa WBG and Lamp all are decent players. Also WBG do you want to lynch Lamp or Lamp2 I I think one of them could be scum the other guys is just an asshole. Not really interested in lynching iamp, no. He COULD be scum, but I just don't see it. I've been fooled well if he is. | ||
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##unvote ##vote Hapahauli | ||
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that's pretty ironic, coming from you. | ||
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Thrawn might have died because he was suspicious of both lazer and hapa. If he was right about both it makes far more sense why he was shot over me, since I was suspicious of Hopeless over lazer and hapa wasn't even a scumread for me. Thrawn's death makes Lazer and Hapa both look worse. No one has really suspected Xata, and grush is grush. So it's pick your poison, really. | ||
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On January 22 2013 11:07 grush57 wrote: WBG, I'm not scum. You think I am but lets say that you know I'm not. Who is the other 3rd scum? if you're not scum then it has to be xata + lazer + hapa. There's pretty much no other choices. | ||
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If Xata is claiming the RB again that means it CERTAINLY wasn't a JK. Even a moron would have targetted Zentor last night, and any non-JK town RB would have claimed by now. In order for Hapa to be scum then either scum roleblocked super, they roleblocked slOosh (not buying it, as there would have been a CC from slOosh and he would've just gotten hapa killed) or they held it. I can't see them holding the RB and it's certainly possible they RBed super, so not much to go on there, but okay. Xata has claimed roleblock twice in a row. I think that makes him town, as I don't see why mafia would hold their roleblock twice in a row. This means that xata should be crossed off the scum lists IMO. | ||
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Would a scum really suicidally push a townie that hard? I'm not getting that part at all. sure, some of his reads look strange in hindsight, after knowing that Hopeless flipped town, but I think you can find town motivation behind most, if not all, of the things that he did. I'm super confused at why a scum, who knows Hopeless is town (and that Hopeless is one of the better players in the game) would just push him so hard for two days straight with not even an ounce of hesitation. Tunnel-syndrome is almost exclusive to townies. If anyone has seen Hapa play a scum game before in this style I'd love to see it, It is troubling that he didn't do a read-dump and that he's afk now but this is mind boggling to me. | ||
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I'm not going to bother defending someone who doesn't even want to defend themselves, so if he's town then the loss is on him. | ||
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