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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 23 2013 20:54 GMT
#1761
Its k go run off to your qt
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 23 2013 20:56 GMT
#1762
there's a big difference if, for example, jay dies over iamp. that would be really fucking strange.

also, no matter what you say, you cannot call me scum for simply being alive, that's ignoring literally everything else I've done this game. You're not this dumb as town. Quite frankly, I would be so incredibly mad if you flipped town this game that I'd probably quit for a while. I'm not even kidding, because if you are town your play will literally be the worst I have ever seen on this forum.

As town, you have no interest in considering other possibilities? I don't find that likely. You have simply suddenly jumped to the conclusion that I am scum, you've basically ignored all other possibilities, and you certainly don't seem to have been interested in actually figuring out the game. If you are town that is quite honestly pathetic. If you are town why wouldn't you have asked yourself if Xata or jay could be scum?

Lastly, and this is the important part: if you are town, and you really thought it would come down to me and you, you'd support lynching lazer first. That gives town MUCH more time to discuss and actually deliberate. Those who want to end the game as quickly as possible before town can think about it are scum. Scum don't want to drag the game out, it's too painful and hard. You're under scrutiny for much longer. I'd much rather take you to 2v1 and then argue it out, and I can guarantee you that you will lose. Not willing to do that? Too lazy? You're not town.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 23 2013 21:07 GMT
#1763
K ignore my question where I said find where I called who scum would shoot.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 23 2013 21:13 GMT
#1764
THAT's your response?

rofl, you really didn't think this through, did you?
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 23 2013 21:41 GMT
#1765
The case on WBG:

His first post with Hapa, so nice with his scumbuddy
On January 15 2013 05:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
yo hapa, can you give me a list of past games of yours I can read?

Also I just noticed you went to school in MI :p cool, I'm a MI native haha.


Next post with Hapa

On January 15 2013 06:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 06:21 Hapahauli wrote:
Damnit SuperSoft, will you answer me?

@ WBG

The Lazer counter-wagon is pretty "resistance-y".

But again, who would be an alternative lynch target? You've pushed Xatalos a lot this game, but that stopped when you sheeped the lazer wagon. I haven't heard much from you at all since in terms of scumreads.


wtf? How is Lazer a counterwagon to Prom when the votes on Lazer CAME FIRST?

Jesus, this is why I call all of you people stupid all the time.

Hey wbg scumbuddy, you've pushed a probably town, but that stopped when you sheeped a wagon that you didn't vote for.No scumreads.
Geez, your stupid, but definitely not scum. Notice How he doesn't actually adress anything in the post that matters, just corrects a little thing.

Here is a post of how constantly throughout the game the scum do a shitty attack against eachother but never a real case
On January 15 2013 08:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 08:42 Lazermonkey wrote:
##Vote: WBG

It's never too late...


[image loading]


On January 15 2013 08:38 wherebugsgo wrote:
Why does prom not care about getting lynched?

This whole thing bothers me

A town is getting lynched, but I;m not gonna bother to save him.

On January 15 2013 11:19 wherebugsgo wrote:
anyway on a serious note:

the two who escaped lynch yesterday through that prom debacle were Lazer and Xatalos. I am more suspicious of Xatalos, considering that he wasn't around as much during lynch time. He just kinda slinked away, while Lazer at the very least was around and doing stuff. His only contributions really were asking slOosh why his opinion changed on him-very self-centric.

Hapa, thrawn, and slOosh I basically have auto-town reads on. I hope they don't turn into the sciberbias of this game. (I had an auto-town read on Prom too)

Xatalos (1): jaybrundage
Promethelax (7): slOosh, thrawn2112, grush57, MrZentor, Xatalos, Ruuch, Supersoft
Lazermonkey (1): Promethelax
Ruuch (4): Lazermonkey, wherebugsgo, Hapahauli, Hopeless1der

The bolded votes are shady. Ruuch avoided a modkill/replacement by voting right before the deadline. I think that's too close to consider that coincidence. We will have to kill him at some point and there's almost no way scum will shoot him, ever. I suppose we can push him off till later, but I know the game will come down to it at some point.

Jay, don't waste your vote tomorrow if you are town. If I die tonight and jay gets away without contributing much, please someone tunnel the fuck out of him.

Secondly, the late votes on Prom: Ruuch's is the worst. Xatalos's is also pretty bad, considering that I never actually felt that he cared about the lynch. His argument was that he preferred Prom over Lazer. Whatever. Zentor and Grush are basically either trolls or scum, and grush's contributions this game err on the side of scum for me.

In addition to all of these players we have Hopeless, who seems to be feigning reasonability to live. He doesn't seem to be very interested in finding scum, either.

So, we have at least 4-5 players who I would confidently label "antitown" and not all of them can be scum. Wonderful.


Let's look at the bolds first, jay(probably town at this point, me(town), zentor flipped town, xatalos(probably town at this point), and ruuch who is now iamperfection so probably town.
This also shows who voted for ruuch, Happa, Lazer, and WBG. :o I wonder why they wanted the easy mislynch
On January 15 2013 08:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
If that were anyone else I would call that a scumclaim.

So, let's treat him like anyone else LOL

##unvote
##vote Ruuch

Besides the scummy logic notice the capital LOL
On January 24 2013 05:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
so you're saying you know who scum will shoot, too?

LOL

WBG was completely wrong on this too.

The only big case he made was on...... the SK! The only time he seemed town was pushing Sloosh because sloosh was acting scummy, but he was sk.
On January 13 2013 16:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
super, agree/disagree:

three of four

Hopeless
Xatalos
Zentor
Promethelax

Hey I know you're town so I'm going to pull the classic move of making a town make reads for me.
Also
Hopeless - Town
Xatalos - Prolly town
Zentor- Town
Prome- Town


On January 17 2013 04:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
alright.

I'm feeling lazy so let's just kill Hopeless. I don't think anything is going to happen in the near future to make either read stronger and so it's just best to consolidate our votes rather than continue to inflate the thread with further pointless back-and-forths.

##unvote
##vote Hopeless1der


I am admitting to be lazy scum. Also lets mislynch hopeless.

On January 18 2013 05:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm inclined to believe LM on his read of Hopeless because I do actually remember him saying that Hopeless played like this last game.

I do also recall that Hopeless played somewhat similarly to this in another game as well, but I'm not quite sure what to think of it, given that I think he was playing like that because of lack of time. He seemed to not be willing to comment on much and he wasn't around at all, but he was town.

LM what do you think of Xatalos attacking me?


...

On January 18 2013 09:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
you're being lynched cause you're scum.

Deal with it.

I may decide to lynch Mr. Lazerscum instead, but who knows, there's probably about 24 hours before I get shot in the face anyway.



On January 21 2013 13:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
it's been a long time since scum have shot me as town.

I'm not going to get shot tonight either since Zentor is confirmed town.

Contradicting scum. That was just one post of why it was stupid to think that a vet town wbg would get shot by scum. When not in danger he puts himself townie, but when ind anger changes it up brohan.

On January 21 2013 05:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
This is actually kind of confusing. If I'm wrong about some of my town reads, it makes Lazer the better lynch by far. Everyone has called both players scum but no one is really willing to defend either of them. On meta they both look bad. They're both easily lynched, though Hopeless seems to be resisting the lynch far more.

Lol there's pros and cons to lynching them both.

Convince me to vote. Most swaying arguments for either side will get my vote. I'll be around till deadline.

On January 21 2013 06:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
Ok, shit reads = scum.

##vote Hopeless1der


So this was when it was between Hopeless and Lazer. It came down to wbg, and pretended to give a possibility of lynching lazer. In less than an hour he voted Hopeless mislynching him, because he called him scum. OMGUS... Also Lazermonkey just lurked and didn't even try to defend himself but he hopeless has shit reads therefore he is scum?

So basically throughout the game WBG has constantly contradicted himself, threw votes anywhere, put shitty attacks on scummates, always tried to mislynch(except for the sk), and even today he tried to vote me instead of Hapa at first. Strawman arguments, picks out one flaw of an attack and doesn't respond to the actual matter at hands.

I hope you all go throughout his filter aswell and make some reads yourself. I feel like I didn't get everything there was just too much scumminess.



"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 23 2013 21:43 GMT
#1766
I was planning to vote MrZentor (since he's scum), but apparently that's against the rules.

Sooooo...
##Vote Hapahauli

THAT WILL SHOW YOU DANDEL
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 23 2013 21:45 GMT
#1767
On January 24 2013 05:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
there's a big difference if, for example, jay dies over iamp. that would be really fucking strange.

also, no matter what you say, you cannot call me scum for simply being alive, that's ignoring literally everything else I've done this game. You're not this dumb as town. Quite frankly, I would be so incredibly mad if you flipped town this game that I'd probably quit for a while. I'm not even kidding, because if you are town your play will literally be the worst I have ever seen on this forum.

As town, you have no interest in considering other possibilities? I don't find that likely. You have simply suddenly jumped to the conclusion that I am scum, you've basically ignored all other possibilities, and you certainly don't seem to have been interested in actually figuring out the game. If you are town that is quite honestly pathetic. If you are town why wouldn't you have asked yourself if Xata or jay could be scum?

Lastly, and this is the important part: if you are town, and you really thought it would come down to me and you, you'd support lynching lazer first. That gives town MUCH more time to discuss and actually deliberate. Those who want to end the game as quickly as possible before town can think about it are scum. Scum don't want to drag the game out, it's too painful and hard. You're under scrutiny for much longer. I'd much rather take you to 2v1 and then argue it out, and I can guarantee you that you will lose. Not willing to do that? Too lazy? You're not town.


Also to respond to your case becasue I pulled a wbg with my earlier respone...

A strong town vet surviving to lylo is suspicious. Hell people policy lynch marv just if he survives.

Yea there is a possibility of Jay being scum. Hey grush make a case or if you don't I'll lynch you! But I won't do anything myself........

Yea I know me wanting to end the game quick sounds extremely scummy, but I was honest that I just wanted to save time. Going through your filter has changed my mind tho, I can lynch LZ first :D.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 23 2013 21:46 GMT
#1768
says I contradicted myself, didn't show any contradictions. He says because I said I might be shot and then because I said I don't get shot that's a contradiction. The fuck?

My posts with Hapa: I call him stupid because I had a town read on him at the time!

My posts asking super about reads, I was wrong. Wrong = scum? Since when?

Also, grush says I wanted an easy mislynch on Ruuch. If I was looking for an easy mislynch then why wouldn't i have simply voted Prom?

He also misrepresents my opinion about Prom in that post. I said I had a bad feeling about Prom when he didn't defend himself because I had a townread on Prom. When a townread disappears. you doubt that townread. grush says I didn't defend him and that's scummy. The fuck? I stated that because Prom's disappearance made me doubt my townread on him. Nothing weird there, it's just grush grasping at straws.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 23 2013 21:48 GMT
#1769
On January 24 2013 06:46 wherebugsgo wrote:
says I contradicted myself, didn't show any contradictions. He says because I said I might be shot and then because I said I don't get shot that's a contradiction. The fuck?

My posts with Hapa: I call him stupid because I had a town read on him at the time!

My posts asking super about reads, I was wrong. Wrong = scum? Since when?

Also, grush says I wanted an easy mislynch on Ruuch. If I was looking for an easy mislynch then why wouldn't i have simply voted Prom?

He also misrepresents my opinion about Prom in that post. I said I had a bad feeling about Prom when he didn't defend himself because I had a townread on Prom. When a townread disappears. you doubt that townread. grush says I didn't defend him and that's scummy. The fuck? I stated that because Prom's disappearance made me doubt my townread on him. Nothing weird there, it's just grush grasping at straws.

What would be easier to explain someone voting at the last minute or prome.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 23 2013 21:48 GMT
#1770
err *voting someone who voted at the last minute
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 23 2013 21:50 GMT
#1771
On January 24 2013 06:45 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 05:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
there's a big difference if, for example, jay dies over iamp. that would be really fucking strange.

also, no matter what you say, you cannot call me scum for simply being alive, that's ignoring literally everything else I've done this game. You're not this dumb as town. Quite frankly, I would be so incredibly mad if you flipped town this game that I'd probably quit for a while. I'm not even kidding, because if you are town your play will literally be the worst I have ever seen on this forum.

As town, you have no interest in considering other possibilities? I don't find that likely. You have simply suddenly jumped to the conclusion that I am scum, you've basically ignored all other possibilities, and you certainly don't seem to have been interested in actually figuring out the game. If you are town that is quite honestly pathetic. If you are town why wouldn't you have asked yourself if Xata or jay could be scum?

Lastly, and this is the important part: if you are town, and you really thought it would come down to me and you, you'd support lynching lazer first. That gives town MUCH more time to discuss and actually deliberate. Those who want to end the game as quickly as possible before town can think about it are scum. Scum don't want to drag the game out, it's too painful and hard. You're under scrutiny for much longer. I'd much rather take you to 2v1 and then argue it out, and I can guarantee you that you will lose. Not willing to do that? Too lazy? You're not town.


Also to respond to your case becasue I pulled a wbg with my earlier respone...

A strong town vet surviving to lylo is suspicious. Hell people policy lynch marv just if he survives.


I survived almost to lylo in the very last mini I played. In fact, in the last 2-3 minis I've played scum have avoided shooting me over shooting other players. It's simply because I have been wrong.

This is not any different this game, I was right about slOosh but slOosh wasn't on the scumteam. I was wrong about Hapa and he was.

Not alignment indicative.

On January 24 2013 06:45 grush57 wrote:
Yea there is a possibility of Jay being scum. Hey grush make a case or if you don't I'll lynch you! But I won't do anything myself........


Yet you never considered it. You never deliberated it, you never gave a reason for considering jay town. You've basically just assumed it and you've done fuck all throughout the game until now when you are in danger of dying.

And what you're saying makes no sense. Me calling you out on your lack of transparency has nothing to do with you not making a case on jay, and quite frankly your misinterpretation is what makes this hilarious. As scum you think all you need to do is make cases to survive. rofl.

Part of the job as town in lylo is to examine all possibilities and you've ignored 4 out of 6 of them.

On January 24 2013 06:45 grush57 wrote:
Yea I know me wanting to end the game quick sounds extremely scummy, but I was honest that I just wanted to save time. Going through your filter has changed my mind tho, I can lynch LZ first :D.


going through my filter has changed your mind? Doesn't sound like it. This is a lie.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 23 2013 21:50 GMT
#1772
On January 24 2013 06:48 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 06:46 wherebugsgo wrote:
says I contradicted myself, didn't show any contradictions. He says because I said I might be shot and then because I said I don't get shot that's a contradiction. The fuck?

My posts with Hapa: I call him stupid because I had a town read on him at the time!

My posts asking super about reads, I was wrong. Wrong = scum? Since when?

Also, grush says I wanted an easy mislynch on Ruuch. If I was looking for an easy mislynch then why wouldn't i have simply voted Prom?

He also misrepresents my opinion about Prom in that post. I said I had a bad feeling about Prom when he didn't defend himself because I had a townread on Prom. When a townread disappears. you doubt that townread. grush says I didn't defend him and that's scummy. The fuck? I stated that because Prom's disappearance made me doubt my townread on him. Nothing weird there, it's just grush grasping at straws.

What would be easier to explain someone voting at the last minute or prome.


???

this is not even a complete question
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 23 2013 21:52 GMT
#1773
Alright compeltely throwout what I said about jay and reading filters because I'm in danger of dying.

##Unvote
##Vote: WhereBugsGo

Hapa has declared scum!
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET WBG
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 23 2013 21:56 GMT
#1774
On January 24 2013 06:52 grush57 wrote:
Alright compeltely throwout what I said about jay and reading filters because I'm in danger of dying.

##Unvote
##Vote: WhereBugsGo

Hapa has declared scum!
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET WBG


rofl.

that's what I thought.

Scum want to win ASAP. Honestly if my alignment was reversed with Hapa's I would have gone for broke and tried to get a townie lynched today, but I'm greedy like that and my #1 interest as scum is to end the game without a single scum dying. It's hard to win after one of you has flipped when you are playing an active game, because there are connections and problems everywhere, even if you led the game for a long time before that. Also, when your teammates are more inactive than you, they become demoralized after the most active guy dies and will often give up.

grush wants to end the game ASAP. He doesn't want to read filters, he doesn't want to figure out the game, and because of all of these things he doesn't want town to win. He also accuses me of contradicting myself when I haven't done so at all, but he contradicts himself here. He says screw what I said about the filters and jay (and I suspected it was a lie to begin with-he claimed he would support me in killing lazer because of reading my filter but it didn't sound like he read it at all, just went back and cherry picked everything he could, as lazily as he could)

grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 23 2013 22:00 GMT
#1775
you really think scum would actually do that?

lol It's lylo with 3 scum left, and I would suicide?
I wanted to get a reaction out of you. I can't believe you just put all that bullshit about how the game is over, im actually scum and giving the game up.
btw I meant that as what you said about completely throwing out what I said.
Anyways becasue I hate dealing with wbg and he had some pretty townie stuff, iamperfection I am going to pull a jay and get you to do a case for me.
In the meantime,
##Unvote
##Hapahauli

I'll be looking at jay baby :D
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 23 2013 22:01 GMT
#1776
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
I REALIZE WHY MY CASE WASNT PERFECT
IT HAD NO STARSENSES
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.
Maybe wbg isn't scum? ;'(
the starsenses wouldn't lead my astray
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 23 2013 22:03 GMT
#1777
On January 24 2013 07:00 grush57 wrote:
you really think scum would actually do that?

lol It's lylo with 3 scum left, and I would suicide?
I wanted to get a reaction out of you. I can't believe you just put all that bullshit about how the game is over, im actually scum and giving the game up.
btw I meant that as what you said about completely throwing out what I said.
Anyways becasue I hate dealing with wbg and he had some pretty townie stuff, iamperfection I am going to pull a jay and get you to do a case for me.
In the meantime,
##Unvote
##Hapahauli

I'll be looking at jay baby :D


no, this is me calling your shitty bluff.

You're not going to read jay and you certainly didn't read shit from my filter, you just copy + pasted it and summarized it in the shittiest manner possible.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 23 2013 22:03 GMT
#1778
On January 24 2013 07:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 07:00 grush57 wrote:
you really think scum would actually do that?

lol It's lylo with 3 scum left, and I would suicide?
I wanted to get a reaction out of you. I can't believe you just put all that bullshit about how the game is over, im actually scum and giving the game up.
btw I meant that as what you said about completely throwing out what I said.
Anyways becasue I hate dealing with wbg and he had some pretty townie stuff, iamperfection I am going to pull a jay and get you to do a case for me.
In the meantime,
##Unvote
##Hapahauli

I'll be looking at jay baby :D


no, this is me calling your shitty bluff.

You're not going to read jay and you certainly didn't read shit from my filter, you just copy + pasted it and summarized it in the shittiest manner possible.

that language is why no one wants to talk to you :'(
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 23 2013 22:05 GMT
#1779
On January 24 2013 07:03 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 07:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 24 2013 07:00 grush57 wrote:
you really think scum would actually do that?

lol It's lylo with 3 scum left, and I would suicide?
I wanted to get a reaction out of you. I can't believe you just put all that bullshit about how the game is over, im actually scum and giving the game up.
btw I meant that as what you said about completely throwing out what I said.
Anyways becasue I hate dealing with wbg and he had some pretty townie stuff, iamperfection I am going to pull a jay and get you to do a case for me.
In the meantime,
##Unvote
##Hapahauli

I'll be looking at jay baby :D


no, this is me calling your shitty bluff.

You're not going to read jay and you certainly didn't read shit from my filter, you just copy + pasted it and summarized it in the shittiest manner possible.

that language is why no one wants to talk to you :'(


and your playstyle is why I hate playing with you.

seriously, if you flip town I'm quitting mafia for a good 3-4 months.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 23 2013 22:08 GMT
#1780
like seriously, you know how demoralizing it is to have to deal with players like you every fucking single game?

Sometimes you're more of an asset to mafia as town than as mafia! Seriously, what the fuck?!

I don't understand what the motivation is behind playing the way you do. You sign up for multiple games and afk through them all, forcing townies to question whether or not you're scum or town lurking it away. It's not fun to have to deal with players like you, it makes the game almost impossible to win.
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