• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:04
CET 02:04
KST 10:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival12TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9
Community News
2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!9BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION1Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams7Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest3Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou22
StarCraft 2
General
The New Patch Killed Mech! RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Could we add "Avoid Matchup" Feature for rankgame Smart servos says it affects liberators as well Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou
Tourneys
2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival BSL Season 21 BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET ASL20 Pre-season Tier List ranking!
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION ASL final tickets help [ASL20] Semifinal A
Strategy
Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Roaring Currents ASL final
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Sabrina was soooo lame on S…
Peanutsc
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1593 users

Dessert Mini Mafia - Page 86

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 84 85 86 87 88 114 Next
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 22 2013 21:21 GMT
#1701
I'm going to bed early today : /. Gotta go up early.

Will be posting more tomorrow.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 22 2013 21:23 GMT
#1702
I'm really curious about Hapa's silence. Has he just given up? Or is he really AFK?

If you in fact are town, Hapa, you better post ASAP - this lurking is really hurting the birth of any meaningful discussion. You haven't even updated your reads after Hopeless flipped... And he was almost confirmed scum according to you.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 22 2013 21:31 GMT
#1703
Lots of RB speculation... My assumption is that the final words of Sloosh made me the target of scum RB. I guess Hapa fakeclaimed being RB'd to gain some towncred (or alternatively scum had some reason to think he's blue). I wouldn't put too much thought into it, though, since it's ultimately all just WIFOM.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 22 2013 21:53 GMT
#1704
On January 23 2013 06:21 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm going to bed early today : /. Gotta go up early.

Will be posting more tomorrow.

Have a good night scum :D.
I like how Lazer and WBG want to lynch me, and I wouldn't be suprised if Hapa tries to lynch me.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 22 2013 21:54 GMT
#1705
On January 22 2013 14:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
okay so including the RB claim, why would Hapa as scum push Hopeless so hard with not even a shred of a backup plan?

Would a scum really suicidally push a townie that hard? I'm not getting that part at all.

sure, some of his reads look strange in hindsight, after knowing that Hopeless flipped town, but I think you can find town motivation behind most, if not all, of the things that he did. I'm super confused at why a scum, who knows Hopeless is town (and that Hopeless is one of the better players in the game) would just push him so hard for two days straight with not even an ounce of hesitation.

Tunnel-syndrome is almost exclusive to townies. If anyone has seen Hapa play a scum game before in this style I'd love to see it, It is troubling that he didn't do a read-dump and that he's afk now but this is mind boggling to me.


I think Hapa's play has had some similarities with Sloosh, actually. Both attempted to throw suspicion at me initially D1, but it didn't stick, so next they both decided to kill Prom. Then they both started tunneling Hopeless (although Sloosh also had WBG as his target for a while). Scum don't always need to be vague or opportunistic, it's also possible (and not certainly unheard of) to just tunnel some innocent townie. Of course it looks bad when he flips, but at least you're taking stances - and you can't always be correct, right? So no, I don't see Hapa tunneling Hopeless as a reason to think he's not scum. The only thing that could do that is if he finally jumped to the thread and absolutely nailed a scum or something equally townish.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 22 2013 21:57 GMT
#1706
well he's not back yet and if he doesn't care about the lynch then I'm fine with him dying.

I'm not going to bother defending someone who doesn't even want to defend themselves, so if he's town then the loss is on him.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 22 2013 22:03 GMT
#1707
On January 23 2013 06:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
well he's not back yet and if he doesn't care about the lynch then I'm fine with him dying.

I'm not going to bother defending someone who doesn't even want to defend themselves, so if he's town then the loss is on him.


Yeah, this really sucks if he's town and just lost interest or something :/
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 22 2013 22:07 GMT
#1708
WBG, do you think that grush is town if Hapa flips scum? It feels pretty drastic to start heavily bussing Hapa during D3 (when he wasn't yet suspected by almost anyone).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 22 2013 22:10 GMT
#1709
On January 23 2013 07:07 Xatalos wrote:
WBG, do you think that grush is town if Hapa flips scum? It feels pretty drastic to start heavily bussing Hapa during D3 (when he wasn't yet suspected by almost anyone).


wait, when was that?

I don't remember grush attacking him like that. I remember him switching off Hopeless and onto Hapa. There is nothing particularly alignment indicative about anything grush has done.

If grush is not scum, then I take it you argue that Lazer + jay are?

Is Lazer 100% scum then?

I don't see grush not being scum, tbh.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 22 2013 22:29 GMT
#1710
On January 23 2013 07:10 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 07:07 Xatalos wrote:
WBG, do you think that grush is town if Hapa flips scum? It feels pretty drastic to start heavily bussing Hapa during D3 (when he wasn't yet suspected by almost anyone).


wait, when was that?

I don't remember grush attacking him like that. I remember him switching off Hopeless and onto Hapa. There is nothing particularly alignment indicative about anything grush has done.

If grush is not scum, then I take it you argue that Lazer + jay are?

Is Lazer 100% scum then?

I don't see grush not being scum, tbh.


Hmm... I guess you have a point. It was just a wasted vote, not at all dangerous to Hapa. And it was all around useless anyway.... So not really telling of his alignment.

If Hapa flips scum (and I pray he does or we're headed to a swift loss) the remaining 2 scum really have to be among grush/Lazer/Jay - I'm not going to vote for you or iamperfection in any case. That means a 2 / 3 chance to hit scum, but it's not a thankful job to figure out the townie among them.

I still feel like Kush was town, so atm it is grush/Jay.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 22 2013 22:29 GMT
#1711
Anyways, good night
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 22 2013 23:32 GMT
#1712
Let's just surrender now if no one wants to lynch wbg.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 22 2013 23:33 GMT
#1713
:'(
I guess if we lynch Lazermonkey tommorow you guys will see that wbg is scum by then tho.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 22 2013 23:47 GMT
#1714
WBG is being buddy buddy and useless but in LIX he is being is useful townie jerk self :D.
there, he is mafia!
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 22 2013 23:49 GMT
#1715
nope. Nice try scum.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 22 2013 23:51 GMT
#1716
It makes perfect sense for scum to try to lynch me on the basis that "I should have been shot" at this point.

Anyone who has read the game can tell you that I am one of the few players interested in actually killing scum. I already killed one.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 22 2013 23:51 GMT
#1717
No talking about other, ongoing games, pls.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
January 23 2013 00:04 GMT
#1718
ya hapa is confirmed scum in my view no excuse for promising reads and not delivering at this point.

I declare no last minute shenanigans even if hapa hasn't voted. We kill him.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 23 2013 00:32 GMT
#1719
On January 23 2013 08:51 wherebugsgo wrote:
It makes perfect sense for scum to try to lynch me on the basis that "I should have been shot" at this point.

Anyone who has read the game can tell you that I am one of the few players interested in actually killing scum. I already killed one.


How is that a scum standpoint and not a town standpoint. Is wanting to lynch marv because he survived to lylo scummy? You're a strong town player and scum would of shot you, but wbg you arent yourself this game cuz ur scum :D
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 23 2013 00:34 GMT
#1720
HMMMM... THIS IS NOT A GOOD SITUATION... WHATEVER SHALL I DO?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Prev 1 84 85 86 87 88 114 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL 21
01:00
Open Quali #1
LiquipediaDiscussion
The PiG Daily
22:10
Best Games of SC
Rogue vs herO
MaxPax vs Clem
MaxPax vs Lambo
Clem vs herO
Reynor vs Classic
PiGStarcraft540
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft559
ProTech106
Nathanias 98
Vindicta 16
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 22103
Artosis 746
NaDa 46
Jaeyun 15
Dota 2
PGG 905
monkeys_forever597
XaKoH 361
League of Legends
JimRising 430
Cuddl3bear7
Counter-Strike
fl0m1273
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0696
hungrybox412
AZ_Axe115
Other Games
summit1g7266
Grubby2522
Maynarde109
RuFF_SC216
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1127
BasetradeTV38
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• RyuSc2 85
• Hupsaiya 71
• Berry_CruncH31
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Mapu0
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21695
League of Legends
• Doublelift4577
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
8h 56m
Streamerzone vs Shopify Rebellion
Streamerzone vs Team Vitality
Shopify Rebellion vs Team Vitality
WardiTV Invitational
10h 56m
CrankTV Team League
11h 56m
BASILISK vs Shopify Rebellion
Team Liquid vs Team Falcon
BSL 21
23h 56m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
BASILISK vs TBD
Team Liquid vs Team Falcon
OSC
1d 10h
CrankTV Team League
1d 11h
Replay Cast
1d 21h
The PondCast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
BSL Team A[vengers]
4 days
Dewalt vs Shine
UltrA vs ZeLoT
BSL 21
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
BSL Team A[vengers]
5 days
Cross vs Motive
Sziky vs HiyA
BSL 21
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20
WardiTV TLMC #15
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.