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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 22 2013 21:21 GMT
#1701
I'm going to bed early today : /. Gotta go up early.

Will be posting more tomorrow.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 22 2013 21:23 GMT
#1702
I'm really curious about Hapa's silence. Has he just given up? Or is he really AFK?

If you in fact are town, Hapa, you better post ASAP - this lurking is really hurting the birth of any meaningful discussion. You haven't even updated your reads after Hopeless flipped... And he was almost confirmed scum according to you.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 22 2013 21:31 GMT
#1703
Lots of RB speculation... My assumption is that the final words of Sloosh made me the target of scum RB. I guess Hapa fakeclaimed being RB'd to gain some towncred (or alternatively scum had some reason to think he's blue). I wouldn't put too much thought into it, though, since it's ultimately all just WIFOM.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 22 2013 21:53 GMT
#1704
On January 23 2013 06:21 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm going to bed early today : /. Gotta go up early.

Will be posting more tomorrow.

Have a good night scum :D.
I like how Lazer and WBG want to lynch me, and I wouldn't be suprised if Hapa tries to lynch me.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 22 2013 21:54 GMT
#1705
On January 22 2013 14:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
okay so including the RB claim, why would Hapa as scum push Hopeless so hard with not even a shred of a backup plan?

Would a scum really suicidally push a townie that hard? I'm not getting that part at all.

sure, some of his reads look strange in hindsight, after knowing that Hopeless flipped town, but I think you can find town motivation behind most, if not all, of the things that he did. I'm super confused at why a scum, who knows Hopeless is town (and that Hopeless is one of the better players in the game) would just push him so hard for two days straight with not even an ounce of hesitation.

Tunnel-syndrome is almost exclusive to townies. If anyone has seen Hapa play a scum game before in this style I'd love to see it, It is troubling that he didn't do a read-dump and that he's afk now but this is mind boggling to me.


I think Hapa's play has had some similarities with Sloosh, actually. Both attempted to throw suspicion at me initially D1, but it didn't stick, so next they both decided to kill Prom. Then they both started tunneling Hopeless (although Sloosh also had WBG as his target for a while). Scum don't always need to be vague or opportunistic, it's also possible (and not certainly unheard of) to just tunnel some innocent townie. Of course it looks bad when he flips, but at least you're taking stances - and you can't always be correct, right? So no, I don't see Hapa tunneling Hopeless as a reason to think he's not scum. The only thing that could do that is if he finally jumped to the thread and absolutely nailed a scum or something equally townish.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 22 2013 21:57 GMT
#1706
well he's not back yet and if he doesn't care about the lynch then I'm fine with him dying.

I'm not going to bother defending someone who doesn't even want to defend themselves, so if he's town then the loss is on him.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 22 2013 22:03 GMT
#1707
On January 23 2013 06:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
well he's not back yet and if he doesn't care about the lynch then I'm fine with him dying.

I'm not going to bother defending someone who doesn't even want to defend themselves, so if he's town then the loss is on him.


Yeah, this really sucks if he's town and just lost interest or something :/
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 22 2013 22:07 GMT
#1708
WBG, do you think that grush is town if Hapa flips scum? It feels pretty drastic to start heavily bussing Hapa during D3 (when he wasn't yet suspected by almost anyone).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 22 2013 22:10 GMT
#1709
On January 23 2013 07:07 Xatalos wrote:
WBG, do you think that grush is town if Hapa flips scum? It feels pretty drastic to start heavily bussing Hapa during D3 (when he wasn't yet suspected by almost anyone).


wait, when was that?

I don't remember grush attacking him like that. I remember him switching off Hopeless and onto Hapa. There is nothing particularly alignment indicative about anything grush has done.

If grush is not scum, then I take it you argue that Lazer + jay are?

Is Lazer 100% scum then?

I don't see grush not being scum, tbh.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 22 2013 22:29 GMT
#1710
On January 23 2013 07:10 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 07:07 Xatalos wrote:
WBG, do you think that grush is town if Hapa flips scum? It feels pretty drastic to start heavily bussing Hapa during D3 (when he wasn't yet suspected by almost anyone).


wait, when was that?

I don't remember grush attacking him like that. I remember him switching off Hopeless and onto Hapa. There is nothing particularly alignment indicative about anything grush has done.

If grush is not scum, then I take it you argue that Lazer + jay are?

Is Lazer 100% scum then?

I don't see grush not being scum, tbh.


Hmm... I guess you have a point. It was just a wasted vote, not at all dangerous to Hapa. And it was all around useless anyway.... So not really telling of his alignment.

If Hapa flips scum (and I pray he does or we're headed to a swift loss) the remaining 2 scum really have to be among grush/Lazer/Jay - I'm not going to vote for you or iamperfection in any case. That means a 2 / 3 chance to hit scum, but it's not a thankful job to figure out the townie among them.

I still feel like Kush was town, so atm it is grush/Jay.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 22 2013 22:29 GMT
#1711
Anyways, good night
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 22 2013 23:32 GMT
#1712
Let's just surrender now if no one wants to lynch wbg.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 22 2013 23:33 GMT
#1713
:'(
I guess if we lynch Lazermonkey tommorow you guys will see that wbg is scum by then tho.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 22 2013 23:47 GMT
#1714
WBG is being buddy buddy and useless but in LIX he is being is useful townie jerk self :D.
there, he is mafia!
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 22 2013 23:49 GMT
#1715
nope. Nice try scum.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 22 2013 23:51 GMT
#1716
It makes perfect sense for scum to try to lynch me on the basis that "I should have been shot" at this point.

Anyone who has read the game can tell you that I am one of the few players interested in actually killing scum. I already killed one.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 22 2013 23:51 GMT
#1717
No talking about other, ongoing games, pls.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
January 23 2013 00:04 GMT
#1718
ya hapa is confirmed scum in my view no excuse for promising reads and not delivering at this point.

I declare no last minute shenanigans even if hapa hasn't voted. We kill him.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 23 2013 00:32 GMT
#1719
On January 23 2013 08:51 wherebugsgo wrote:
It makes perfect sense for scum to try to lynch me on the basis that "I should have been shot" at this point.

Anyone who has read the game can tell you that I am one of the few players interested in actually killing scum. I already killed one.


How is that a scum standpoint and not a town standpoint. Is wanting to lynch marv because he survived to lylo scummy? You're a strong town player and scum would of shot you, but wbg you arent yourself this game cuz ur scum :D
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 23 2013 00:34 GMT
#1720
HMMMM... THIS IS NOT A GOOD SITUATION... WHATEVER SHALL I DO?
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