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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On January 13 2013 13:19 MrZentor wrote: Well, he was in it, I suppose, but he didn't read the last half. Well, you did make a huge comeback later in the game. But you've posted more stuff so far in this game than during the early game there... | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
On January 13 2013 13:51 jaybrundage wrote: Hapa didnt even vote in the first one T_T Need i quote "HAMMER HIM HAMMER HIM" Yamato, the scum, was going to hammer him, regardless of whether I encouraged him or not. Actually, Xatalos, I think Occam's Razor says he's town. It doesn't make sense for scum to act like that; it's most probable that he's town. That's the simplest solution, Occam's Razor. What do you think of that? | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On January 13 2013 13:53 Xatalos wrote: Let me get this straight. You almost instantly leave the wagon after having voted, not because you see anything wrong in the wagon at all, but because it doesn't gain enough support for your liking. Then you proceed to throw some dirt on several additional players. It just fits a Mafia agenda too well and doesn't make any sense as town. Then again, your entrance to the thread was pretty suicidal from a Mafia perspective. But if I look at the recent pages (or even just this one post), Occam's razor says you're Mafia. Can you explain your behaviour? i read his filter twice i thought it was scummy. THEN everyone who knows his meta says he isn't scummy. he doesn't respond scummily. i dont think he's scummy is that explained enough to you? also your name is pronounced shatalos? sorry but this is relevant to me because I like to say it in my head. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On January 13 2013 13:59 MrZentor wrote: Yamato, the scum, was going to hammer him, regardless of whether I encouraged him or not. Actually, Xatalos, I think Occam's Razor says he's town. It doesn't make sense for scum to act like that; it's most probable that he's town. That's the simplest solution, Occam's Razor. What do you think of that? second person you defended without cause to. back on my scum list. ATM i woudl lynch. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
(It's pronounced Ksatalos btw, lol) | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On January 13 2013 14:12 Xatalos wrote: Well... I can actually relate to that kind of thinking. I was under heavy suspicion last game for switching my reads based on others' opinions. It's still scummy though, but on the other hand, it's a blatantly scummy thing to do that actual scum wouldn't do (at least so clearly). Conclusion? Tentatively town, purely based on you doing too many anti-town/scummy things for it to make any sense as scum. It sounds stupid, yeah, but it's actually logical. Playing like that makes you get heavy pressure and you end up most likely claiming scum at some point unless you're an amazing player. (It's pronounced Ksatalos btw, lol) Who the hell are you talking too Zentor or Kush use a @ sign plz | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On January 13 2013 14:00 kushm4sta wrote: i read his filter twice i thought it was scummy. THEN everyone who knows his meta says he isn't scummy. he doesn't respond scummily. i dont think he's scummy is that explained enough to you? also your name is pronounced shatalos? sorry but this is relevant to me because I like to say it in my head. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
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slOosh
3291 Posts
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On January 13 2013 14:36 slOosh wrote: Ok, enough second guessing, my case is gonna be on Xatalos. People should read up on his filter before reading my case so they can better look at it objectively. Next post will be case. you said enough second guessing, what were your other thoughts about before deciding on xatalos? | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On January 13 2013 14:36 slOosh wrote: Ok, enough second guessing, my case is gonna be on Xatalos. People should read up on his filter before reading my case so they can better look at it objectively. Next post will be case. Okay, bring it on. Unfortunately I'm going to sleep now (it's morning here already lol) so I'll take a look at it sometime later. | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
On January 13 2013 14:46 Xatalos wrote: Okay, bring it on. Unfortunately I'm going to sleep now (it's morning here already lol) so I'll take a look at it sometime later. HE AINT SCARED | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On January 13 2013 14:28 Xatalos wrote: Actually (@Jay) you haven't done anything meaningful after accusing Kushm4sta as scummy for his anti-town entrance. You have a lot of fluff in your filter, though. But that's actually worse than having nothing in its place. MrZentor keeps saying you're town for your spamminess, but that's not too hard for Mafia with some experience and knowledge to fake. All you have to do to keep MrZentor off you is to post something a lot, no matter how thought-out it is. I'm on the border of voting you right now based on this very early game alone. Prove me wrong. Start by scumhunting. Da fuck I have been scum hunting have you read my filter. I was pressuring Supersoft, and defending a town read I have. Dont throw baseless accusations at me. Atm your looking kinda scummy you ask questions in the thread never draw any conclusions about the things you ask. You have a scum read on Kush and then when he changes his read on Mr.Zentor you say that hes too scummy to be scum hes town. ????? dafuq Thats after a single fucking small post. You got lynched last game day one for you 180's that make no damn sense and your doing them again this game. The only thing that make's me hesitate to lynch you is that your such giant lynch bait. I also am not sure about Kush both of you guys have such fluctuating reads. Kush goes from this guy is scum vote. To oh wait ok hes not scum. To explaining why hes prolly not scum to being scum again. Like is this normal? | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
@ MrZ I don't think it's good to give Kush a town read based on the 180. If it was another player, I'd agree with you, but Kush is some who doesn't mind the spotlight at-all as scum. I don't know what to think of him yet, and I'm going to wait until I see his scumhunting before I make a judgement. @ Supersoft Have you looked into MrZ's meta at all? Because those early-game town reads are super-normal for him. Also, please reply to my previous post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955¤tpage=6#119 Regarding Xatalos His interaction with MrZ regarding Kush looks super-duper sketchy. He's balls-out convinced that Kush's 180 was scummy, then backs down to a "townish" read when confronted by MrZ. That, and he's been soft-defending a few players early in the game. His soft-defense of supersoft in particular reads as very forced: On January 13 2013 11:30 Xatalos wrote: What are you saying? You agree with hopeless so he's more scummy than grush whom you think is scummy with the same reasons as hopeless? Yeah, supersoft's focus on a single smilie was very overdone. But I think he looked pretty convinced about the matter. Why was it fake? Maybe he just wanted to pressure and get a reaction? I'm generally hesitant about him given that I mislynched him in British Mini Mafia for his "wishy-washiness," but his filter doesn't look very good right now. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On January 13 2013 12:45 MrZentor wrote: Also, I've already, although indirectly, pointed out that Hapa's play this game is different than usual, waaay before Kush said it. From me to Hapa So in a way, Kush is agreeing with me. I certainly took it out of context, but it wasn't intentional. That's what I do early on Day 1 - I'll go after anything I perceive as scummy early on and think of the consequences later. | ||
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