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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 21:06 GMT
#2041
##Unvote
##Vote: jaybrundage
Doing this now. Will kill grush if this ain't happening.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 26 2013 21:12 GMT
#2042
WBG FUCKING RESPOND

HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 26 2013 21:14 GMT
#2043
On January 27 2013 06:06 Lazermonkey wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: jaybrundage
Doing this now. Will kill grush if this ain't happening.

yea you woudl like that wouldnbt you. I'm not gonna let town lose cause a fucking mislynch on me of all people fuck that.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 26 2013 21:15 GMT
#2044
Not sure if Lazer is bussing jay right now.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 26 2013 21:16 GMT
#2045
On January 27 2013 06:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 05:59 Xatalos wrote:
On January 27 2013 05:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 27 2013 05:55 Xatalos wrote:
On January 27 2013 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
he hasn't trolled all game.

lazer has escaped lynch like 3 times now.


It's all relative. He has sheeped his scumreads, posted contradicting statements right after each other and done other things that can't be considered not trolling. It's not as senseless in that other game, but it's far worse than anything I've seen before.

That's bothering me about Lazer too, but there are other things that make Lazer look more townish (Kush's play, Lazer's positive participation today..). And last moment vote switches rarely end well.


you never qualified why kush's play made lazer look better.

In fact, I disagreed with you and never got an answer on that.

you haven't qualified how grush playing here is "worse" relative to anything, because you haven't provided a game where grush played town in which he was more helpful than this.


That's because Kush and Lazer share the same alignment....... You need to ask that?

grush's play here is worse and more useless than anything I've seen from any other player. It's not as bad as that previous game where he was scum, but it's not like he needs to just go 100% troll once he gets under pressure. It's stupid to assume something like that.


no, because I don't think kush's play was townish!


Okay... You never actually answered about that though. iamperfection agreed, but you went AFK or something? The thing is that in Witchraft Kush was pretty cautious and diplomatic with everyone. Here he was just doing stupid stuff and well on his way to become lynched. Don't you see the difference?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 21:16 GMT
#2046
Grush. Answer. My. Question.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 21:20:38
January 26 2013 21:20 GMT
#2047
Votecount

grush57 (2): Xatalos, jaybrundage
Lazermonkey (2): grush57, wherebugsgo
jaybrundage (1): Lazermonkey


Currently, grush57 is set to be lynched! (tiebreakers)
~ 2.5 hours until deadline.

A backwards poet writes inverse.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 21:22 GMT
#2048
I don't understand, why would we care about grush changing his meta?

I've never seen someone drastically change their meta, and this is fucking grush we're talking about.

iamp might have agreed but I'm going to go check that newbie game that kush smurfed in. From what I recall his play was somewhat like what he did here.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 26 2013 21:25 GMT
#2049
On January 27 2013 06:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
I don't understand, why would we care about grush changing his meta?

I've never seen someone drastically change their meta, and this is fucking grush we're talking about.

iamp might have agreed but I'm going to go check that newbie game that kush smurfed in. From what I recall his play was somewhat like what he did here.

Because your assuming Grush cant change a fucking bit. If he's scum then all he has to do is play useless and get away scot free
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 21:25 GMT
#2050
why does kush attack hapa at the beginning of the game only to sheep someone else on a supposed MZ scumslip?

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 21:26 GMT
#2051
On January 27 2013 06:25 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 06:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
I don't understand, why would we care about grush changing his meta?

I've never seen someone drastically change their meta, and this is fucking grush we're talking about.

iamp might have agreed but I'm going to go check that newbie game that kush smurfed in. From what I recall his play was somewhat like what he did here.

Because your assuming Grush cant change a fucking bit. If he's scum then all he has to do is play useless and get away scot free


occam's razor is that he didn't change, because people don't voluntarily change their meta.

it's not that easy to change your meta, and I seriously doubt a player like grush would have the foresight to do so.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 26 2013 21:27 GMT
#2052
##Vote Lazermonkey

Grush or Lazermonkey doesnt make a difference to me.

Note that while lazer monkey says he wants to kill grush as well he insists on me instead.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 26 2013 21:34 GMT
#2053
On January 27 2013 06:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 06:25 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 27 2013 06:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
I don't understand, why would we care about grush changing his meta?

I've never seen someone drastically change their meta, and this is fucking grush we're talking about.

iamp might have agreed but I'm going to go check that newbie game that kush smurfed in. From what I recall his play was somewhat like what he did here.

Because your assuming Grush cant change a fucking bit. If he's scum then all he has to do is play useless and get away scot free


occam's razor is that he didn't change, because people don't voluntarily change their meta.

it's not that easy to change your meta, and I seriously doubt a player like grush would have the foresight to do so.


So this relies on grush being incompetent... But keep in mind that Hapa was scum as well. He could have easily coached grush to try something a bit different this time around. I doubt Hapa would have let grush just completely troll like he did previously. But he started trolling HIMSELF this game, so what do I know. Please do read Kush's filter in Witchcraft and tell me what you think then.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 26 2013 21:35 GMT
#2054
On January 27 2013 06:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 06:25 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 27 2013 06:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
I don't understand, why would we care about grush changing his meta?

I've never seen someone drastically change their meta, and this is fucking grush we're talking about.

iamp might have agreed but I'm going to go check that newbie game that kush smurfed in. From what I recall his play was somewhat like what he did here.

Because your assuming Grush cant change a fucking bit. If he's scum then all he has to do is play useless and get away scot free


occam's razor is that he didn't change, because people don't voluntarily change their meta.

it's not that easy to change your meta, and I seriously doubt a player like grush would have the foresight to do so.

Ok assuming lazer is scum and he flips red. Do you srsly think im his scum buddy. Da fuck? Reasoning plz
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 26 2013 21:41 GMT
#2055
On January 27 2013 06:34 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 06:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 27 2013 06:25 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 27 2013 06:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
I don't understand, why would we care about grush changing his meta?

I've never seen someone drastically change their meta, and this is fucking grush we're talking about.

iamp might have agreed but I'm going to go check that newbie game that kush smurfed in. From what I recall his play was somewhat like what he did here.

Because your assuming Grush cant change a fucking bit. If he's scum then all he has to do is play useless and get away scot free


occam's razor is that he didn't change, because people don't voluntarily change their meta.

it's not that easy to change your meta, and I seriously doubt a player like grush would have the foresight to do so.


So this relies on grush being incompetent... But keep in mind that Hapa was scum as well. He could have easily coached grush to try something a bit different this time around. I doubt Hapa would have let grush just completely troll like he did previously. But he started trolling HIMSELF this game, so what do I know. Please do read Kush's filter in Witchcraft and tell me what you think then.

Xat so if your confident in grush being scum why cant you see a grush lazer scum team. Your basing the majority of your read on some one who was only here on day 1 for like half of it. Wouldnt lazer if he had been town been able to do something townie that would influnces your read?
He has legit escaped from every lynch so far. Wouldnt scum want to keep him alive as much as possible?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 26 2013 21:49 GMT
#2056
On January 27 2013 06:41 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 06:34 Xatalos wrote:
On January 27 2013 06:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 27 2013 06:25 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 27 2013 06:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
I don't understand, why would we care about grush changing his meta?

I've never seen someone drastically change their meta, and this is fucking grush we're talking about.

iamp might have agreed but I'm going to go check that newbie game that kush smurfed in. From what I recall his play was somewhat like what he did here.

Because your assuming Grush cant change a fucking bit. If he's scum then all he has to do is play useless and get away scot free


occam's razor is that he didn't change, because people don't voluntarily change their meta.

it's not that easy to change your meta, and I seriously doubt a player like grush would have the foresight to do so.


So this relies on grush being incompetent... But keep in mind that Hapa was scum as well. He could have easily coached grush to try something a bit different this time around. I doubt Hapa would have let grush just completely troll like he did previously. But he started trolling HIMSELF this game, so what do I know. Please do read Kush's filter in Witchcraft and tell me what you think then.

Xat so if your confident in grush being scum why cant you see a grush lazer scum team. Your basing the majority of your read on some one who was only here on day 1 for like half of it. Wouldnt lazer if he had been town been able to do something townie that would influnces your read?
He has legit escaped from every lynch so far. Wouldnt scum want to keep him alive as much as possible?


It's possible, but I'm not confident on Lazer flipping scum, so I want to lynch grush. It's troubling that Lazer has always somehow escaped the wagons that started forming on him, and he hasn't really done much to make me think he's town during the game, but it's still a lot more than grush has going for him. And more than you have going for you. So why would we lynch Lazer now?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 26 2013 21:53 GMT
#2057
WBG did you read Witchcraft yet?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 22:07 GMT
#2058
is he town in witchcraft? he posted a lot more than he did here even in the short amount of time he was alive.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 26 2013 22:10 GMT
#2059
On January 27 2013 06:49 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 06:41 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 27 2013 06:34 Xatalos wrote:
On January 27 2013 06:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 27 2013 06:25 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 27 2013 06:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
I don't understand, why would we care about grush changing his meta?

I've never seen someone drastically change their meta, and this is fucking grush we're talking about.

iamp might have agreed but I'm going to go check that newbie game that kush smurfed in. From what I recall his play was somewhat like what he did here.

Because your assuming Grush cant change a fucking bit. If he's scum then all he has to do is play useless and get away scot free


occam's razor is that he didn't change, because people don't voluntarily change their meta.

it's not that easy to change your meta, and I seriously doubt a player like grush would have the foresight to do so.


So this relies on grush being incompetent... But keep in mind that Hapa was scum as well. He could have easily coached grush to try something a bit different this time around. I doubt Hapa would have let grush just completely troll like he did previously. But he started trolling HIMSELF this game, so what do I know. Please do read Kush's filter in Witchcraft and tell me what you think then.

Xat so if your confident in grush being scum why cant you see a grush lazer scum team. Your basing the majority of your read on some one who was only here on day 1 for like half of it. Wouldnt lazer if he had been town been able to do something townie that would influnces your read?
He has legit escaped from every lynch so far. Wouldnt scum want to keep him alive as much as possible?


It's possible, but I'm not confident on Lazer flipping scum, so I want to lynch grush. It's troubling that Lazer has always somehow escaped the wagons that started forming on him, and he hasn't really done much to make me think he's town during the game, but it's still a lot more than grush has going for him. And more than you have going for you. So why would we lynch Lazer now?

I dont have preference to lynching Grush or Lazer. However you have said previously that you would lynch me over lazer. What have i done that was scummy. In fact you had a townie read on me till my internet got cut off and i wasn't able to post and help the town as much as i would of liked.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 22:11 GMT
#2060
why does jay not have a preference, wtf

have you ever had a preference this game?
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