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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 20:45 GMT
#2021
if you disagree with me then that's fine, we'll just go back to killing grush.

I just cannot make sense of this given how worthless these 3 have been all game.

grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 26 2013 20:46 GMT
#2022
We only have a little bit over an hour( i think) and my vote is currently on Lazer. Do the right thing wbg!
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 26 2013 20:49 GMT
#2023
I'd rather lynch Jay than Lazer today, to be honest. But grush is definitely the most likely scum. You can't say he's town just because he didn't go to a ridiculous troll-mode after being close to death.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 20:50 GMT
#2024
he hasn't trolled all game.

lazer has escaped lynch like 3 times now.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 20:52 GMT
#2025
So WBG, why wouldn't you want to kill Jay then? My brain isn't functioning very well atm.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 20:53 GMT
#2026
if grush is town then why would it matter which one of you I try to kill? you're both scum.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 26 2013 20:54 GMT
#2027
On January 27 2013 05:38 wherebugsgo wrote:
no how the fuck is that trolling?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&user=165092&currentpage=All

look at that, THAT is trolling.

I am NoSmurfHere btw, look at my filter and comments on grush. He is definitely not trolly here. I don't think he is scum anymore tbh.

lazer, let's go.

##unvote
##vote Lazermonkey

So if you don't think grush is scum, and you want to kill lazer who do you think the scum team consists of.

Also is it just a process of elimination? You switch to lazer because you dont think grush is scum? But is there anything lazer said recently that changed your mind at all?

Also you are stating what I said about grush in the first place... Yes he put in effort. But do you not think that scum grush could change his meta a bit? Trying to catch people on purely meta is usually bad as they can change it. I kept pushing grush this whole game and he produced a case. But it seems you act like scum grush has to do the same thing each game.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 26 2013 20:55 GMT
#2028
On January 27 2013 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
he hasn't trolled all game.

lazer has escaped lynch like 3 times now.


It's all relative. He has sheeped his scumreads, posted contradicting statements right after each other and done other things that can't be considered not trolling. It's not as senseless in that other game, but it's far worse than anything I've seen before.

That's bothering me about Lazer too, but there are other things that make Lazer look more townish (Kush's play, Lazer's positive participation today..). And last moment vote switches rarely end well.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 20:55 GMT
#2029
On January 27 2013 05:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
if grush is town then why would it matter which one of you I try to kill? you're both scum.
Yhea, so you are okay with Jay lynch then?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 20:56 GMT
#2030
On January 27 2013 05:55 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
he hasn't trolled all game.

lazer has escaped lynch like 3 times now.


It's all relative. He has sheeped his scumreads, posted contradicting statements right after each other and done other things that can't be considered not trolling. It's not as senseless in that other game, but it's far worse than anything I've seen before.

That's bothering me about Lazer too, but there are other things that make Lazer look more townish (Kush's play, Lazer's positive participation today..). And last moment vote switches rarely end well.


you never qualified why kush's play made lazer look better.

In fact, I disagreed with you and never got an answer on that.

you haven't qualified how grush playing here is "worse" relative to anything, because you haven't provided a game where grush played town in which he was more helpful than this.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 20:57 GMT
#2031
WBG thinks Jay is scum.
I think Jay is scum
Xata is okay with lynching Jay
grush think(?) Jay is scum

=

Let's kill Jay!
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 20:59 GMT
#2032
like, grush is one of those players where I don't even know if you can read him based on his uselessness.

He's not an asset as town, ever. I can't remember a game in which I said, wow, I really wish grush would play like that more often.

Lazer IS normally an asset to town and he's done fuck all this game. He only became active when it was clear he was going to die. He's only really focused on defending himself prior to lylo.

iunno, maybe I'm confusing myself and running myself in circles but the meta leads me to believe grush might not be scum after all.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 26 2013 20:59 GMT
#2033
WBG doesnt your whole case rely on Grush not knowing how to change his meta?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 26 2013 20:59 GMT
#2034
On January 27 2013 05:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 05:55 Xatalos wrote:
On January 27 2013 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
he hasn't trolled all game.

lazer has escaped lynch like 3 times now.


It's all relative. He has sheeped his scumreads, posted contradicting statements right after each other and done other things that can't be considered not trolling. It's not as senseless in that other game, but it's far worse than anything I've seen before.

That's bothering me about Lazer too, but there are other things that make Lazer look more townish (Kush's play, Lazer's positive participation today..). And last moment vote switches rarely end well.


you never qualified why kush's play made lazer look better.

In fact, I disagreed with you and never got an answer on that.

you haven't qualified how grush playing here is "worse" relative to anything, because you haven't provided a game where grush played town in which he was more helpful than this.


That's because Kush and Lazer share the same alignment....... You need to ask that?

grush's play here is worse and more useless than anything I've seen from any other player. It's not as bad as that previous game where he was scum, but it's not like he needs to just go 100% troll once he gets under pressure. It's stupid to assume something like that.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 20:59 GMT
#2035
also lazer right now is trying to be diplomatic with everyone. :/
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 21:00 GMT
#2036
On January 27 2013 05:59 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 05:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 27 2013 05:55 Xatalos wrote:
On January 27 2013 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
he hasn't trolled all game.

lazer has escaped lynch like 3 times now.


It's all relative. He has sheeped his scumreads, posted contradicting statements right after each other and done other things that can't be considered not trolling. It's not as senseless in that other game, but it's far worse than anything I've seen before.

That's bothering me about Lazer too, but there are other things that make Lazer look more townish (Kush's play, Lazer's positive participation today..). And last moment vote switches rarely end well.


you never qualified why kush's play made lazer look better.

In fact, I disagreed with you and never got an answer on that.

you haven't qualified how grush playing here is "worse" relative to anything, because you haven't provided a game where grush played town in which he was more helpful than this.


That's because Kush and Lazer share the same alignment....... You need to ask that?

grush's play here is worse and more useless than anything I've seen from any other player. It's not as bad as that previous game where he was scum, but it's not like he needs to just go 100% troll once he gets under pressure. It's stupid to assume something like that.


no, because I don't think kush's play was townish!
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 21:01 GMT
#2037
On January 27 2013 05:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
also lazer right now is trying to be diplomatic with everyone. :/
How? I want Jay killed.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 26 2013 21:04 GMT
#2038
WBG STOP FUCKING IGNORING ME. YOUR PISSING ME OFF>

YOur whole case on Grush relies on him onty being able to change his meta. da fuck?

The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 21:04 GMT
#2039
Grush, Xata you are oki with lynching Jay, righty?
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 26 2013 21:06 GMT
#2040
I would fine with killing lazer but if you gonna fucking mislynch me tmw we are gonna lose this shit.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
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