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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 11 2013 17:01 GMT
#121
While we wait for the last confirmation, I have some general questions with respect to setup, but probably not ones that I will get very specific answers.

What is a common Townie/Blue/Mafia ratio? Something like 3/1/1? or 2.5/1.5/1? My first game of forum mafia here

Also curious, If Pa Grape (Cop) checks the Dinner Fork (Third Party), What does he receive back? According to OP he recieves EITHER guilty OR innocent. I assume he would get guilty, but that might mislead town about how many mafia they need to nail? I suppose that is a good/desirable part of the game?
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2013 17:12 GMT
#122
as for common ratios, you should look at bunch of other newbie games and draw conclusions from there. everything is in the op

SK checks return as guilty, unless the SK chooses the ability to return innocent to all checks. The sk's other option is have 1kp worth of protection.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
January 11 2013 17:39 GMT
#123
/obs if it isn't too late for that
shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 11 2013 17:42 GMT
#124
Will the starting time be the same as lynch deadline? If so, I'll probably not going to make it most of the time. 5 am here.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 11 2013 18:21 GMT
#125
/in

/obs
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 11 2013 18:28 GMT
#126
48 hour days means that you have forever to get in lynch votes, although admittedly you will miss a lot of the last-minute discussion.
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2013 18:29 GMT
#127
On January 12 2013 03:28 Sn0_Man wrote:
48 hour days means that you have forever to get in lynch votes, although admittedly you will miss a lot of the last-minute discussion.


you would be surprised
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 11 2013 18:32 GMT
#128
On January 12 2013 03:29 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 03:28 Sn0_Man wrote:
48 hour days means that you have forever to get in lynch votes, although admittedly you will miss a lot of the last-minute discussion.


you would be surprised


First game. No doubt I will be surprised .

I'm still going over in my head ways a Serial Killer can actually win without mafia OR town victory triggers happening.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 11 2013 18:33 GMT
#129
On January 12 2013 03:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 03:29 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 12 2013 03:28 Sn0_Man wrote:
48 hour days means that you have forever to get in lynch votes, although admittedly you will miss a lot of the last-minute discussion.


you would be surprised


First game. No doubt I will be surprised .

I'm still going over in my head ways a Serial Killer can actually win without mafia OR town victory triggers happening.

Killing everybody else is usually a good start.

Then you go from there.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 11 2013 18:46 GMT
#130
On January 12 2013 03:33 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 03:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
On January 12 2013 03:29 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 12 2013 03:28 Sn0_Man wrote:
48 hour days means that you have forever to get in lynch votes, although admittedly you will miss a lot of the last-minute discussion.


you would be surprised


First game. No doubt I will be surprised .

I'm still going over in my head ways a Serial Killer can actually win without mafia OR town victory triggers happening.

Killing everybody else is usually a good start.

Then you go from there.



Since I assume town can win even if SK is still alive (hes not mafia, town have no need to eliminate him), and mafia can win even if SK is still alive (I think...), SK has 2 possible win conditions.
1: Enter the final night with 3 living people, 1 mafia 1 townie and himself. He NK's the mafia, the mafia NK's the townie and voila.
2: Enter the final night with 2 living people, but still with his KP protection that he starts with (if he chooses). He kills mafia, mafia's attempt to kill him is blocked, done.

However, I thought scenario 2 would lead to mafia victory triggers? (all townies are dead). The Role section (and sample role PMs) weren't all that clear on mafia win conditions.

Thoughts? (since we have like 9+ hours to game start...)

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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 11 2013 18:48 GMT
#131
No, as long as the SK is alive, the game must go on.

He has to be lynched or shot.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
bringaniga
Profile Joined January 2013
18 Posts
January 11 2013 18:53 GMT
#132
I am excited, dear children!
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 11 2013 18:58 GMT
#133
On January 12 2013 03:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
No, as long as the SK is alive, the game must go on.

He has to be lynched or shot.


I'm happy to believe that, but that is certainly not the way it is represented in the role explanation section. (And you don't happen to be host/cohost).

Either way, I gather that most games do NOT have an SK so...
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 11 2013 18:59 GMT
#134
On January 12 2013 03:58 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 03:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
No, as long as the SK is alive, the game must go on.

He has to be lynched or shot.


I'm happy to believe that, but that is certainly not the way it is represented in the role explanation section. (And you don't happen to be host/cohost).

Either way, I gather that most games do NOT have an SK so...

lol
A backwards poet writes inverse.
zebezt
Profile Joined August 2011
185 Posts
January 11 2013 19:55 GMT
#135
Yeah, I thought about SK kill conditions alot as well too. Seems very hard.
A last night with 4 people including a vigilante also could lead to a winning scenario.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 19:59:12
January 11 2013 19:58 GMT
#136
On January 12 2013 04:55 zebezt wrote:
Yeah, I thought about SK kill conditions alot as well too. Seems very hard.
A last night with 4 people including a vigilante also could lead to a winning scenario.


I thought about that, but the chances of there being mafia, a vig AND an SK are pretty slim. The game ends too fast that way (I'm guessing). Plus the vig is decently likely to have used up their bullet{s} at that point.

either way, Dandelion seems to indicate that other kill conditions are superseded by there being an SK so the game wont insta-end. I don't really know.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 11 2013 20:31 GMT
#137
Game will not end if two parties still have a a chance of winning. Think of the town win con as 'eliminate all antitown factions' instead of eliminate all scum. And scum would not win with an sk still alive as he could shoot them every night.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 11 2013 20:36 GMT
#138
On January 12 2013 05:31 Promethelax wrote:
Think of the town win con as 'eliminate all antitown factions' instead of eliminate all scum.


I know you aren't host, but my thoughts on the statement:

Write the town win con as 'eliminate all antitown factions' instead of "You win with town, by killing all the mafia dudes" (direct quote from sample VT role PM).
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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 22:47:29
January 11 2013 22:46 GMT
#139
What the fuck I'm not even listed as a replacement ?!

/obs please
there is no game on-going right now, I'm going to obs the shit out of this game
bringaniga
Profile Joined January 2013
18 Posts
January 11 2013 23:52 GMT
#140
I formally request that no observers be permitted. I would like to limit exposure of my revolutionary scumhunting techniques, especially exposure that circumvents personal reimbursement.
Thank you.
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