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JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 01:53 GMT
#1028
Look you have 100% permission to lynch me if zara flips town but when I flip town you are screwed. Think about it. If Zara flips town my entire argument is based off him not flipping town and thus I am scum 100%. If I flip town then who are you going to lynch?

If you are town you can 100% hit scum by lynching zara then me. If you lynch me then you can't be sure.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 07:48 GMT
#1030
I could have claimed right away but I had to go over why zarapath lied and consider everything. Also I didn't want to get Nk'ed tonight so that is why I waited until I was voted for and likely to die anyway.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 08:28 GMT
#1031
Well obviously you two are against me but to the town considering there is no way I can survive day 5 if zara is town we should vote for him. You can just lynch me afterwards if I am lying. It's the only logical thing to do. This way eliminates all possibility's for mistakes.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 08:58 GMT
#1035
Hey I went to bed for most of that, the main point was not wanting to get night killed.

4 scum would be ridiculously overpowered. The only way I see this is if there were a mason pair. (which aren't in this game type) 3 scum one sk however.... So like you said there is no point for me to just drag this out.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 09:00 GMT
#1036
Also if there were 4 scum do you really think mocca would have died? Or even spag for that matter.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 09:06 GMT
#1037
Also killing me as your biggest opponent would bring suspicion. Acid died as someone who was on my side for the most part. (which only brings wifom suspicion at best) Snow also died (someone who I think was on my side) Why does everyone who agrees with me die? I might have done it once for wifom cred but honestly...
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 09:27 GMT
#1039
4 scum can concentrate votes 3 scum and 1 sk can't.


How would you have gotten killed during the night if you were RB? If your story is true you'd have me and zare as scum/SK. After lynching one of us, there would only be 1 left for you to RB so you wouldnt die during night. I'm sorry your argument makes no sense.


Oh that does make sense. Didn't think of that....

In that case we should 100% lynch zara because then I can just roleblock the other scum. If that doesn't happen you can just lynch me. If I was buying for time does it matter? It's still safer for town to lynch zara first and you know it.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 09:28 GMT
#1040
Why are you so scared of the safe option? I can't have a game plan past this day.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 09:51 GMT
#1043
I'm asking you showing that you are scum. (although it would make sense from a town perspective as well though) also trying to shut me up by saying it's a waste of time is poor play. Although it's got to the point where we both know what the other person is and it's down to you say I'm scum I say your scum it seems. I just hope the town make the right choice. ie; trotske and shz.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 10:25 GMT
#1050
On January 22 2013 19:00 zebezt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 18:51 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I'm asking you showing that you are scum.


huh?
What does that mean?
It just seems to me that you forgot that because of your story I already know you are scum.


Yeah I know you are scum and you know I am scum... we went over the fact that our stories cancel each other out in this regard.

On January 22 2013 19:13 shz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 19:04 zebezt wrote:
On January 22 2013 18:59 shz wrote:
One question for zebe, zare, and Trotske: If Jacob is lying and not RB, why would Mocsta lie about being RB'd on N1? Mocsta could not have known that there isn't a RB. If there isn't a roleblocker, Mocsta is fine, but if there is a RB and that RB did not roleblock Mocsta, he would have been called out for it. And town should not lie about being RB'd.

This is the one thing that I'm very concerned about.


Easy peasy
Mocsta knows there is no scum RB, or if there is one, he could tell em not to use their power.
So if someone else claims a RB, then it seems that there is a town and a scum RB.


The only thing that makes sense if there isn't a scum RB. What it really looks like. For a scum RB not to use their power is just dumb just to do that little claim.

So, in your opinion, it is more likely that Jacob is lying, than that Mocsta was not?


Exactly I pointed out there was no rb claims in the entire thread apart from mocca. if there was scum rb'er he would have used it on someone..... But mocca could gain cred if he knew there was no scum rb'er and obviously a town one. We can't both be lying that wouldn't make sense.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 10:35 GMT
#1052
All of a sudden? I had suspicions about him for ages but I put them aside in favour of zara. The fact I rb'ed both of them on separate occasions with still a nk led me to believe that zara was mafia and zeb was sk. Scum is a universal word for both.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 10:36 GMT
#1053
as sk you want to start killing later on. I imagine the last two days the sk was trying to kill but I role blocked him and mafia at separate times leaving only one nk.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 10:43 GMT
#1055
Wat. Well if there was "not likely" a scum roleblocker what does that make me? "Likely" a town Roleblocker. Besides I will get lynched tomorrow anyway if I was lying.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 10:53 GMT
#1057
Just dense is seems, forgive me for not being able to see myself from a perspective I wouldn't have. Almost ironic coming from you. I thought you were an idiot until recently.

But when zara flips scum I can then confirm myself via night actions. If I am town this means 100% win chance. If I am scum it still means 100% win chance for town.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 10:54 GMT
#1058
ebwop:100% isn't a chance... *facepalm*
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 11:10 GMT
#1060
-_- 4 scum would be completely imbalanced. Besides you can just lynch me if I don't rb someone. So not only do there have to be 4 scum but me not being rb'er for your theory to make sense it;s a stretch. and if I am not rb'er you find out in the night.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 11:53 GMT
#1065
I am not trying to confuse you... I don't see what part of the logic doesn't make sense. I want to see what trotske thinks about it. Zebezt is saying there is more likely hood that there is 4 scum as a mafia team. Than 3 scum one sk I have never seen a 4 scum mafia team ever in a 13 player game. I actually played in a game with 3 mafia one sk... I am assuming it's c9 set up.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9++

JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 11:56 GMT
#1068
It comes down to what do you think is safer and more likely. It's less likely there is 4 mafia ergo If I was lying you could lynch me day 5. It's not likely what zebezt is saying is true so when I flip town your screwed. If you do vote me you are screwed because town can't win vs sk and mafia. it would be 1-1-2

If there were 4 mafia (unlikely) then it would be 2-3 and we lose this lynch with nk which I the rb'er can't stop...
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 11:57 GMT
#1069
On January 22 2013 20:56 zarepath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 20:53 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I am not trying to confuse you... I don't see what part of the logic doesn't make sense. I want to see what trotske thinks about it. Zebezt is saying there is more likely hood that there is 4 scum as a mafia team.


I played a 4 scum 13 person Mafia once, but we had no Godfather or any other special powers on the Mafia team.


Well there was a godfather.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
January 22 2013 12:17 GMT
#1072
I am saying it's impossible to have 4 mafia and I know this because I am not mafia... actually if there were four mafia then shz and zara would have to be mafia. (and you would be town) I don't think this is the case in fact I almost know it isn't.

There isn't any point arguing with you though because I know you are sk. If trotske was to come in here or shz was to ask a question then yes. But what we are basically doing is saying each other is scum repeated times it's pointless.
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