EPT1) Why you think my play is different here than say... in Witchcraft Mini Day 1
2) Why you think I'm "twisting" and "misrepresenting" your posts
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Hapahauli
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1) Why you think my play is different here than say... in Witchcraft Mini Day 1 2) Why you think I'm "twisting" and "misrepresenting" your posts | ||
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On January 05 2013 14:55 jaybrundage wrote: Hapa besides DP give me your next scum read Yamato. He's been far too lurky and disinterested this game in comparison to anything I've seen from his other town games. It is early Day 1 though, so I'm not sold on it. | ||
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On January 05 2013 15:00 DarthPunk wrote: Holy fuck. What do you not understand about this. I am town. I have no additional info. I have to figure shit out. The way I figure shit out is to have ideas and then alter these ideas with changing info or more thought applied to the problem. Whilst I was flaming with you I was thinking about Xatalos. Now the thing about Xatalos is that he is a pretty bad townie. He likes to sheep and he changes his mind. Changing your mind is a pretty bad thing to do as scum because people such as yourself for some reason view it as scummy, and as scum you don't need to change your mind. You can defend someone you know will flip town and be fully justified in doing that later when he flips. You can also tunnel people as long as they aren't your buddies, and even then you can do so. So changing his mind/sheeping was originally scummy but not with some further thought applied. His list post irks me as all lists post do in general HOWEVER re reading it actually contained decent content and seemed to fit someone trying to figure shit out. Not scummy. So. He is back to null after reevaluation and I need to figure some other shit out. Savvy? Savvy. You're town brah. ##Unvote DarthPunk | ||
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Firstly, me tunneling DP is somewhat ritualistic, because I find him super hard to read unless he gets under heavy pressure. So I just call him scum until I find reasons to believe he's town or scum. In this case, I think a lot of his recent posts show that he's pretty clearly town. For one, he refuses to get into a flame-war with me. This is very very clearly a town trait. I have no interest in repeating myself for you hapa. I will respond to others but I refuse to get into a flame war with you. My position can be found easily within my filter. Secondly, a couple of his other posts have shown exasperation and other traits I'd associate with a townie frustrated at pressure on him. This post in particular seemed really townie from an emotional perspective: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391112¤tpage=14#278 As did his vote on Jay (which seemed sooooper townie) All and all, my tunnel served it's purpose. I'm convinced that DP is town. The method is crude, but IMO effective. Sorry DP <3 | ||
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After Hero Mini, my view on Jay is that he's lynch-bait, so I'm rather hesitant about lynching him. Right now, I'm unsure how likely his behavior is coming from a "town-Jay." His play on it's face is scummy, but I really need to hear more from him. @ Jay What do you make of my newly disclosed town-read on DP? Agree or disagree? Secondly, your quote accusing DP of assuming I was town was very clearly mis-interpreting his actions (in which he very clearly qualified as only IF I was town). It doesn't look very good. Explain yourself. | ||
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RiseAgain - Has been completely absent from the thread barring the opening hour of the game - Promised to return in 12-24 hours with some setup-speculation stuff and has not done so JayBrundage - He is lynch-bait, but his behavior alone has been the scummiest so far IMO. - Very little substantiative content in his filter. - He has his vote on Shaio right now, which is odd considering how much he's been pushing DP to get lynched. His "flow of suspicion" in this regard makes very little sense. I'll write more about this tonight when I have time. Yamato77 - Absurdly lurky and detached in comparison to his town games. - Hasn't done anything of consequence beyond a terrible vote on Mr.CC I would have ideally liked to have more narrow suspicions at this stage of the game, but it's simply impossible given the activity level. If you're town, your job right now is to generate content. If you see a player active at the same time as you are, have a conversation, probe that player, and ask him his opinions on things. The way things are going, this town is absolutely screwed if I get shot. | ||
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Also, making a "pressure vote," and then subsequently doing nothing to pressure said player doesn't look very good. | ||
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On January 06 2013 00:12 yamato77 wrote: His actions when you and DP were having it out were really towny. A scum could have been opportunistic or even just sat back and let it go on but he tried to get cooler heads to prevail and it worked. I haven't really had the time to follow up on anything yet this game. The vote wasn't a pressure vote, it was a play for a reaction, and I got one. Well the 180 seems especially strange since I'm used to seeing you tunnel players to death for the slightest of reasoning. In fact, Mr.CC hasn't done much to make me think he's town at this stage, and I'm surprised you were willing to give up your pressure so easily. | ||
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On January 06 2013 00:16 yamato77 wrote: I haven't had a problem with this before, but honestly my work schedule this week has been absurd. I am literally giving up thirty minutes out of the five hours I get to sleep today to play mafia right now and I'm putting my thoughts out there. I don't want to get too much into RL stuffs, but is your activity going to be a problem going forward? Because 30 minutes a day to "chime in" on things is not what I want to have from you going forward. | ||
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On January 06 2013 00:19 yamato77 wrote: I'm trying to quit the tunneling deal. I'm almost always wrong and I waste a lot of time in games by doing so. I can only attribute so much of your behavior to a "change of heart" about tunneling. Fact is, you've done very little resembling aggression this game at all. There's literally nothing in your filter resembling game-analysis, or even sustained pressure. On January 06 2013 00:20 yamato77 wrote: It'll get better after the weekend. I might have more time later today but I don't even know if I work in six hours or fourteen, lol. I have to wake up to find out. Fortunately we can extend Day 1 beyond the weekend, so I'll be holding you to this standard. | ||
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On January 06 2013 00:40 MrZentor wrote: I leave for a few hours and the thread explodes. -.- Thank me later. Anyway, I'm travelling for a good portion of today, so I'll be away for a little while. If you're town, it's up to you to generate some content. | ||
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Jay's case on Mr.CC is rather oddly timed given the rest of his suspicions. Rise is still not here. Yamato is apparently busy in RL, so not much to say there. I'm willing to give Yamato a pass until he's free after the weekend. Everyone else seems to care about the thread, so they get townie points for today. On January 06 2013 06:14 MrZentor wrote: I think we should assassinate Hapa while he's gone. Just think of his rage. XD + Show Spoiler + | ||
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What are your feelings on ShaioPi now? I can't figure out at all why you unvoted him, especially since Shaio hasn't even replied to you. Secondly, you've been gunning after DP for a while now, and have basically been calling out his "scumslips." Yet it's really strange that you've never had your vote on him. | ||
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Can you give me an update on your current suspicions? Xatalos does have a point when he says that you haven't been all that committal this game | ||
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On January 06 2013 08:35 jaybrundage wrote: Reread the thread he responded to me I then asked him another set of questions, Which he also responded too as well. The tunnel is strong in this one T_T Oh yes you did ask him some questions, however I'm still not sure what your current suspicions on Shaio are. You voted him early, and after asking him a couple of questions, I haven't heard you talk about Shaio since. And no I haven't been gunning after DP that was you btw. I thought the case on him you made wasn't decent. I also asked you question regarding you and DP and your past games. Plz answer it. DP and I have played in a couple of games. From my memory... TL Mafia LVII (DP = scum, Hapa = town) Rockband Mini Mafia (Both town) Mario Mini Mafia (DP = town, Hapa = scum) Witchcraft Mini Mafia (DP = town, Hapa = town) | ||
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On January 06 2013 08:42 MrZentor wrote: Can we kill somebody tomorrow? I want more information. I really don't want to kill anyone until Rise and Yamato start posting. We're shooting ourselves in the foot if we don't consider two players who've done nothing to prove their alignments. | ||
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So in LVII, we tunneled the hell out of each other for a bit in the mid-game. I called him town, and I was dead-wrong about his alignment, which might have "scarred" me a bit regarding my ability to read him. So I've been tunneling him since. In Rockband Mini, he had some really weird "plan," a bunch of people tunneled him, and I ended up with a town-read on him early on Day 1. In Witchcraft, I hard tunneled the crap out of him and similarly ended up with a town read on him. In both instances, I was correct. Now your turn: your attitude on ShaioPi. Go. | ||
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