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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
January 05 2013 06:01 GMT
#280
ok going to dinner. BBL.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
January 05 2013 10:32 GMT
#291
Well. I am town now. :/

I am not convinced hapa is town but I also don;t want to lynch the most active player.

I am pretty furious with jay right now so my vote stays for now. I am going to read his last game and check his meta. anyone around to chat?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
January 05 2013 10:33 GMT
#292
also. If I fucking have to flame with hapa every game for an entire day I am going to be a sad panda.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
January 06 2013 00:45 GMT
#372
Man I would love to hear from Riseagain. This kind of inactivity from a player hurts and it makes it absolutely impossible to determine their alignment.

Also just reading through all the posts since I have been asleep I noticed something weird. It seems as if Jaybrundage and Xatalos have been pushing the same agenda and using very similar reasoning despite extremely limited in thread interaction.

Now I know we can't make association cases before a flip, but I thought that I would mention it in case someone else had noticed the same thing.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
January 06 2013 01:18 GMT
#391
On January 06 2013 09:48 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 09:45 DarthPunk wrote:
Man I would love to hear from Riseagain. This kind of inactivity from a player hurts and it makes it absolutely impossible to determine their alignment.

Also just reading through all the posts since I have been asleep I noticed something weird. It seems as if Jaybrundage and Xatalos have been pushing the same agenda and using very similar reasoning despite extremely limited in thread interaction.

Now I know we can't make association cases before a flip, but I thought that I would mention it in case someone else had noticed the same thing.


Funny, but fairly irrelevant. In fact, mafia buddies often won't push the same mislynch early Day 1

Do you have any individually focused thoughts on Jay and Xatalos?


Not really. I went and read through J's filter for Hero mini and it seemed he was a lot more engaged in that game than he has been in this game. I didn't notice any sniping on a player that was under fire either.

In fact in that game I would not be voting for him. The thing is though that one game of meta is not enough to make me feel comfortable lynching someone.

His sniping at me was such an obvious misinterpretation that I feel Justified in my vote for him. The problem is I could see a townie doing that too.

Eh. If it comes down to it, If I had to lynch someone right now I would be lynching Rise or MrZ for lurking straight up.

Rise as a fairly obvious smurf should know better as it is. And I am sick of Mr Z trolling to make himself unreadable.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
January 06 2013 01:21 GMT
#392
##Unvote

##Vote: Riseagain

This shit aint moving until he shows up and does something.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
January 06 2013 01:22 GMT
#394
also. It is almost 48 hours since Rise posted last. He is 17 minutes from being eligible for inactivity modkill.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
January 06 2013 01:24 GMT
#396
Also where the hell is Shiao PI? He lurks more as scum you know.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
January 06 2013 01:32 GMT
#402
On January 06 2013 10:25 Hapahauli wrote:
@ DP

What's the sense in voting for someone that's likely to get replaced? Also I'm rather surprised to see you not following up on Jay at all.


If he get's replaced I'll move my vote. I did follow up on J. I read his entire filter from hero mini mafia and some of the context. The thing is that aside from his sniping which I could see a townie doing I wouldn't want to lynch him. He has contributed to the discussion, and even though I don't agree with a lot of what he says I can't justify a lynch on him at the moment.

He has scumhunted. He has been fairly active. He has been fairly open to discussion.

The one thing that worries me is that in Hero he seemed to be more engaged in the byplay than he has been this game but the difference is minimal and as I just said it isn't enough to lynch him for.

Basically If I left my vote on Jay it would be solely for the sniping/misinterpretation and that isn't enough for me.

Basically I have no solid solid reads at this juncture. And my largest read previously (you) is acting quite townie and has justified what I viewed as extreme confirmation bias in tunnelling me with a townie motive.

So it's down to voting lurkers for the time being.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
January 06 2013 01:33 GMT
#404
On January 06 2013 10:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Regarding Shaio, he's pretty lurky as town too. I hate it, but it is what it is. Can't get a read on the guy if he ain't around.


Yeah but it is worse as scum.
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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
January 06 2013 01:40 GMT
#409
On January 06 2013 10:39 jaybrundage wrote:
ugh im frustrated non else things that CC is scummy. DP thoughts on my two cc cases?

And hapa why are you convinced CC is townie he hasn't wrote a single case on his reads.

It would also suck if Rise got replaced. I just want him to come back tho. ShaioPi lets see ya


BRB going to reread them. Pretty comfortable in a townie cc read right now though.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
January 06 2013 01:46 GMT
#413
Yeah. Your case was pretty weak. You say that he has no cases so he is scum. He has been poking and prodding. Large formal cases are not the only way to scumhunt and are in fact the easiest form of fake scumhunting to manufacture. CC has been active and commenting on the byplay. He has promoted a pro-town atmosphere in the midst of a shit fight between hapa and myself, when it was very much to scums advantage to see that out to my death.

He has been transparent enough and done enough to be considered quite townie.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
January 06 2013 01:50 GMT
#414
on Yamato. like. I could lynch him but it would be a gamble. I can't find anything to distinguish him between useless townie and useless scum. He is just useless.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
January 06 2013 02:17 GMT
#424
On January 06 2013 11:17 MrZentor wrote:
I like to wait until the second day. c:


it's been 48 hours consider this the second day :O
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
January 06 2013 11:56 GMT
#502
Well. HI ZB

##unvote


we are minus a lurker and up someone who posts a lot. <3

OK. so Here is some thoughts for you all..

Town reads Mr CC.

Townish person that I am paranoid as fuck about. Hapa.

rest null.

So you can see my problem here. I can;t really see a good lynch at this point in time.

Like, I could probably lynch Mr Z but that would be just because I don't like his playstyle.

Don't really want to lynch yamato, nor ZB, nor Jay just yet.

It will probably be coming down between Shiao and Xatalos. Both were opportunistic with hopping on and off my bandwagon.

Ready? FIGHT!





"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
January 06 2013 23:48 GMT
#635
Ew. I wish I had woken up sooner. Although I can't blame you guys at all. I was pretty sure Xatalos was town from the latest developments. I was going to say that I wanted to lynch CC pretty badly.

Time to build a case on CC. anyone want my comments on anything? I have been sleeping a lot SO the last 140 odd posts are fresh in my mind from reading them after I got up.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
January 06 2013 23:49 GMT
#636
On January 07 2013 08:28 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 08:25 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 07 2013 08:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I'm just concerned why Yamato shows up randomly and hammers... and then Jay's like can we lynch cc now lol

Because im pretty confident your scum.


Tell me why - besides my "lack of cases"


Allow me <3

It's in the works presently.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
January 07 2013 00:06 GMT
#638
On January 07 2013 08:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
DP didn't you think I was town and stuff?

Also, how did you suddenly think Xatalos was town?


Yeah I did think you were town. But your posts ever since that stream of conciousness post changed my mind.

I thought Xatalos was town because many, many times it was stated in the thread exactly why people thought he was scummy. And what did he do? he continued to do those exact things in the pursuit of other players. I.E. He didn't give a fuck about looking scummy, which is not something I would expect newbie scum to pull.

He also changed his mind a lot even though he knew it would get him in trouble. after CASES were being made about that very thing he continued to do it.

Didn't care about being scummy. = Town

Didn't alter his play when it was obviously getting him into shit = Town

Continued to pursue his reads with the whole thread calling him out for them = Town

So yeah. By the end I think it was fairly obvious that Xatalos was town. I don't really blame people for voting for him. I just wish I had gotten up in time to change things.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
January 07 2013 00:54 GMT
#642
On January 07 2013 09:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 09:06 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 07 2013 08:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
DP didn't you think I was town and stuff?

Also, how did you suddenly think Xatalos was town?


Yeah I did think you were town. But your posts ever since that stream of conciousness post changed my mind.

I thought Xatalos was town because many, many times it was stated in the thread exactly why people thought he was scummy. And what did he do? he continued to do those exact things in the pursuit of other players. I.E. He didn't give a fuck about looking scummy, which is not something I would expect newbie scum to pull.

He also changed his mind a lot even though he knew it would get him in trouble. after CASES were being made about that very thing he continued to do it.

Didn't care about being scummy. = Town

Didn't alter his play when it was obviously getting him into shit = Town

Continued to pursue his reads with the whole thread calling him out for them = Town

So yeah. By the end I think it was fairly obvious that Xatalos was town. I don't really blame people for voting for him. I just wish I had gotten up in time to change things.


What posts are it? How did they change your mind? You were pretty sure I was town. You were also pretty sure Xatalos was scummy, and did nothing to prevent his lynch. In fact, you just told them both to fight. Now you come in here right after he's lynched, conveniently, and 180 your read on both of us?

Seems a bit odd.


I just explained exactly why. and it wasn't sudden. I think you'll find that my read on Xatalos went something like this

Null > Scummy > Null > Scummy > Townie

I explained my thought processes behind xatalos in a previous post they changed when ZB came in proclaiming him to be scum and after reading his Gdocs. And then changed again when I read all the posts from whilst I was asleep.

More/Changing Information = Different and more accurate reads.

I fail to see what is 'odd' about it.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
January 07 2013 00:54 GMT
#643
On January 07 2013 09:23 MrZentor wrote:
Everybody's panicking because we didn't lynch scum first day.

lolololololol


Hardly panicking lol. It does suck to mislynch but as you imply it is quite expected day one.
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