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You can make a case like that and it doesn't really put you into the spotlight at all. If we all voted for him and he flipped town THEN it would. But you yourself didn't even vote for him. How is not even voting for somebody and just calling everything they have done scummy dangerous for you in any way? It's a good way to start conversation on a target, and you got him to answer but it's not putting yourself out there in any way. | ||
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Also spag I only read your last post as writing this and I have no idea what you are talking about. I think you have this made up illusion that I have something against you because of NMM XXXIII. Get over it. You are trying to get people to think that we can't agree on anything and that our opinions will always be different. As I know I am town, I can only see it as a move to try to divide townies and get us to lose faith in each other, please stop or I'll assume its scum motivated instead of you dwelling too much on the past. | ||
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I'll start with the people I don't think we should vote for in this lynch. I believe Mocsta and Spag should be free of suspicion for this lynch entirely. TeMiL and StriX I believe we should wait until D2 TeMiL I think is just bad town and I don't think a vote on him is the BEST we could do. StriX says he makes long analytical posts. I'm waiting to see one. He hasn't delivered in 48 hours and I am most likely going to put my vote on him. I believe Syl is in the middle ground and responded to the case made against him really well. I have a very slight town read on Jampi. I most likely will not be voting on him unless something drastically changes. Cora hasn't called himself scum twice yet so thats a plus  he's actually been playing in my mind what a town cora would be.Please ask any questions I'm doing a larger write up right now. | ||
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On January 05 2013 05:51 cDgCorazon wrote: So, crossing out the people you're not going to vote for, that leaves Zare and a No-Lynch. You've already voted and unvoted for Zare, so are you going to go back to Zare, or are you going to push for a no-lynch? I literally say I'm probably going to vote StriX | ||
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yes oh really. Just because I'd like to see StriX in D2 to see what he comes up with, I believe 48 hours should have been enough and I'll still vote for him. | ||
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Why he is my top scum read. Syl gave him a very nice resume as Mocsta called it and made me look forward to what he would bring to the table to help us with his insight. However I have not seen any of it in nearly 48 hours. Perhaps a town StriX would make large posts and push strong scum reads however that is not what we have seen at all. He plays a newbie card early on and on top of that votes for TeMiL and feels that after making that his only useful(?) post he should not be grouped together with him as a lurker. + Show Spoiler + StriX Australia. January 04 2013 14:40. Posts 31 PM Profile Report Quote # filter @OmniEulogy by the way - if you reread I was the first to call out zarepath on his no-lynch so it's amusing to me that you use it as an argument then call me out for contributing nothing. @cDGCorazon I shouldn't be grouped with TeMil. He follows up when asked why he doesn't pursue Zare with this + Show Spoiler + [QUOTE]On January 04 2013 15:27 StriX wrote: [quote]Why have you backed off zarepath? I want to know rationale, you should have this case-at-hand if you are analytically minded as Sylencia stated.[/quote] Seems to defeat the purpose - Much easier to wait for a mistake then tell someone your watching them and expect one. Not to mention you could create one self fulfilling prophecy style. He also admits that Mocsta has fed him the names for his top scum reads at that point in time. No real searching involved. We then have his take on Zare's case vs Syl and how to support/promote town play + Show Spoiler + [QUOTE]On January 04 2013 21:19 StriX wrote: oops forgot this bit On January 03 2013 22:47 StriX wrote: (2) [Mocsta] thus, how do you propose to support town play? At this point transparent observations are my strength. Aggression for me is fun and all but very often seems to lead to situations we have with Sylencia v Zarepath. He wants to lurk as town and offer no helpful information himself and use information other people gather to give his opinions. On top of this he then criticizes it when it is exactly what Syl had to do to answer Zare's case. It makes no sense considering it is exactly what he wants to watch happen. (have people question each other for information so he can make cases) The only problem with what happened was that a bandwagon did not form on a possibly innocent Syl and thus as scum he had nowhere to hitch his vote to. He also backtracks on Zare just based on the fact that he no longer things the no-lynch would be scummy without a good reason. Stating "it was a ploy" and that is all. At this point in time StriX has moved to my top scum read and therefore I am voting for him. ##Vote: StriX | ||
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On January 05 2013 08:14 StriX wrote: sorry time is of the essence so I can't really post the long analysis you guys keep hyping me for. I just have one simple question. Don't you think it's interesting OmniEulogy bandwagons twice? (first on zarepath then on myself) I'll attempt to find some proof because didn't really suspect him until now. doesn't sound like an OMGUS? "I didn't suspect anything and haven't had any proof to support that he's scum but now that he's made a case on me and voted for me TIME TO HUNT" for the first time this game I might add. I guess its good that something finally pushed you to contribute. It's unfortunate that it's you being up for a lynch. I welcome your case on me by the way. I am town, so the sooner you make your case the sooner I can tear it apart. You can spin what you meant by "it was a ploy" all you want now. It's become a matter of opinion and as I believe you to be scum, your opinion on what you yourself wrote doesn't change the fact that you stopped pressuring him. | ||
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On January 05 2013 08:52 StriX wrote: @OmniEulogy at risk of adding more fuel to the fire. Will you vote for jampidampi if I die VT? I would have been suspicious if you bandwagon'd anyone. I'm not sure honestly. I think I'd look at him again for sure, but the N1 kill and how D2 goes would influence my vote far more than who started the lynch in this case. especially as we have 3 choices currently. | ||
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It's almost like he didn't read my case on StriX or wants to even mention it. Why would Mocsta not bring up this case? It brings up very good arguments against StriX which he has not even tried to respond to and he criticizes me for play he made (much worse) on TeMiL. Why does he not address such an important case? Ask yourself if Mocsta's "case" has been made attempting to hunt scum when what I have been doing all game is giving out my reads on people and trying to pressure with votes and gain town information or if its an attempt to save StriX. Mocsta votes on TeMiL - useless vote, changes to me with NO real scum indication or facts. All of his "scum reads" are his personal opinion. I could claim Mocsta has personally delivered very little to the conversation himself, he asks a lot of questions but answers very vaguely and does not contribute unless it has been on TeMiL or other players who have been lurking. He's been called out on it already and tried to sidestep the accusation. This is very easy for scum to do. He has also conveniently left so he can't expand on any of his idea's further. His block of text says very little for so much writing. He claims no contribution when I have pushed more aggressively than some people feel comfortable with against Zare, and now StriX. He claims that switching my vote from Zare to StriX is me not caring who gets lynched. This is simply not the case. Zare began to contribute more and as the day progressed he became less likely to be scum and as such my scum reads changed. I unvoted and went over filters, read through countless posts again to come to a conclusion. That is not carelessly voting as he would like you to believe based on his opinion. I say him voting for TeMiL and then switching to me is much worse than what he has accused me of. He went from a lurker who has not even defended himself to a player who is possibly on to scum and has been scum hunting and giving his input on the top scum reads all game long. Mocsta is wrong and I strongly advise you to not confuse his reads for facts. | ||
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On January 05 2013 09:32 StriX wrote: Survival = bad? It's weird also that you are basically saying with your vote that I lurk more than TeMiL. last game I refused to vote for somebody I believed was town because I knew it would lead to a win. You voting for somebody you didn't have a read on to live is extremely selfish. You didn't even try to convince us of your read afterwards. You just jumped on me. It's not a townie way of dying. You haven't given us any of the information you've built. You didn't even make a case on ME because you couldn't find one. This is NOT town behavior. | ||
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