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Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 02 2013 21:26 GMT
#1518
Crossfire prolly outed himself because we made a bulletproof case on him and he's BY FAR not good enough a (scum) player to wiggle out of it.

Any assumption further than that is crazy tinfoil-hat talk.


Prome, I would like you to outline why you think the hopeless hydra is town. As I already noted on day 1 (sorry about that btw), you're probably the most familiar with hopeless in here. So I want to hear your thoughts.

~dandel
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 02 2013 21:35 GMT
#1521
On February 03 2013 06:32 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Well Dan, I need some things to play out before I update my read on the HopelessHydra. I have some thoughts about this recent Zeb case which I find...interesting. I'm sure you see what I see. Gonzaw and I are talking it through now. Updates to follow.
I usually use my reads to get reads on other people, I thought you knew that, I knew what I thought of Hope and had no idea about marv at the time.

p

Yeah I shouldn't have posted what I posted back then and given marv a stupid excuse to refuse doing a read. I realized that like 10 seconds after I posted it. But what's done is done.

Well no real rush I guess, but do share your immense wisdom at least by day 3.

~dandel
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 02 2013 21:45 GMT
#1524
On February 03 2013 06:38 RockHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 06:26 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Crossfire prolly outed himself because we made a bulletproof case on him and he's BY FAR not good enough a (scum) player to wiggle out of it.

Any assumption further than that is crazy tinfoil-hat talk.

~dandel


Well if it was bulletproof, why did Suck and DFTP disagree?
I agree though that any deductions based on this action are not very strong.

/zebezt

lack of thinking
drugs
being lazy and not actually checking the games we cited for his meta
letting a mentally challenged baboon do their posting for them
....


There's a million possible reasons, and I can't conceivably know which one applies to whom.

~dandel
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 02 2013 23:08 GMT
#1549
On February 03 2013 08:06 RockHydra wrote:
Ok.. new piece of information I wanted to share
Check out which people did not use New Frontier
CH (has no basic lands)
Stutters and xfire
wouldnt any decent scumbuddy have warned xfire to search for 2 lands to sac to destroy 2 more permanents?

stutters was the only one besides xfire that didnt notice the new frontier.

I dont think this coincedence

Read xfire's filter.

He says, quite early, that he's not running basics.

Also useless points, etcetc.



sutters, that ain't gonna work, New frontiers gives you lands tapped.

~dandel
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 02 2013 23:11 GMT
#1553
Anyways, guess who im attacking with my cute zombies.

Acro is afk, so I can rush things without any abandon!!! Take that acro!

~dandel
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 03 2013 06:56 GMT
#1575
holy shitfuck there's three pages of ppsts snce i left. dafuz happpenend?

/acro
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 03 2013 06:57 GMT
#1576
On February 03 2013 06:38 RockHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 06:26 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Crossfire prolly outed himself because we made a bulletproof case on him and he's BY FAR not good enough a (scum) player to wiggle out of it.

Any assumption further than that is crazy tinfoil-hat talk.

~dandel


Well if it was bulletproof, why did Suck and DFTP disagree?
I agree though that any deductions based on this action are not very strong.

/zebezt

1, they didn't
2. they're idiots.

Yup, that covers everything
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 03 2013 06:58 GMT
#1577
On February 03 2013 06:49 RockHydra wrote:
lol
damn baboons!

we're glad you agree instead of running random intereference
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 03 2013 07:06 GMT
#1578
On February 03 2013 07:05 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
hi guys. I'm just reading through some thread at the moment before i do some filtering.

Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 02:49 Clockwork Hydra wrote:

Stutters is blatantly drawing attention to himself with this post. He is walking up to one of the towniest townies in the game, who, as scum he knows is 100% town and doesn't have the lingering doubts of other townies that Gonzaw might just be faking it all. He then says "POKE, pay attention to me!" for no fucking reason at all.

There are very few scum who feel comfortable drawing attention to themselves and they are invariably known as some of the best scum players on the forum. Stutters is either an absolute natural at playing scum, or he is town.

PS. He doesn't just do it that once either. He pokes you too for no reason except to get your reaction... and later pokes me for, in his own mind, letting him off the hook when I had said I wouldn't do that. Now he is either a fucking mastermind scum in his very first game as scum ever, or he is a townie towner.

/Acro


I would probably have agreed with this wholeheartedly a couple of weeks ago, but just recently Xatalos, as mafia, in Dessert Mafia did a similar thing. He constantly drew attention to himself. Xatalos is pretty new himself (or, perhaps has played 1 game more or something) and while I respect and like him (we've shared many PMs in the past), he's not yet a mafia savant or anything. Yet he did the same. So I don't think it's as cast-iron as you make it sound here.

anyway, I'm not saying this to shed suspicion on stutters, because i've not even properly filtered him yet, but it's maybe not quite as strong a heuristic as you think.

-marvelbabe



I proably know Xata better than you do. Xata != Stutters. Not in a billion years.

1. In Xata's first game as scum he could borrwo from awesome sauce modkll worthy shit like my asha clame.
2. In Dessert Xata's scumbuddy wasn't as wuseless as xfire.

I think I got most of that right. Either way, I am right.
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 03 2013 07:14 GMT
#1579
On February 03 2013 08:11 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Anyways, guess who im attacking with my cute zombies.

Acro is afk, so I can rush things without any abandon!!! Take that acro!

~dandel

Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 03 2013 07:24 GMT
#1580
I'll try to make sense of that when I'm sobre, but why are you running EDH when there is absolutely no need to?

Also, you said you'd love to run mana barbs, but weren't allowed to, yet now claim you have mana barb. Also, if you play mana barbs 4 zombies will say hello. They might say more, but probably they'll be feasting on your brane.

/acro
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 03 2013 12:08 GMT
#1587
Yo Grokkie, that's all cool and stuff, but even drunk acro has a good point.

Why you running mana barbs even though you claimed artanis didn't allow it?


Together with your fearmongering on Storm decks, that's some real contradictions. If I made a google spreadsheet, I'd give +12 scumeter to the storm thing and +9 scumeter to the mana barbs thing.

Throw in some random +1 and +2 at a bunch of your posts, and you're already up to high grade B super-suspicion. Just to put it into terms you understand.

~dandel
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 03 2013 14:27 GMT
#1590
On February 03 2013 22:04 RockHydra wrote:
oh snap. Aperture caught in a lie.
Pretty damning.
If you combine that with his decklist he seems too dangerous to not lynch next.
Still wanna read over his filter again though, but I suppose we have time for that.

/zebezt


The decklist he gave doesn't actually sound that dangerous imo. At the very least, not until he has 9+ mana up.

Which might mean he has something else "dangerous" in his deck he didn't tell about, or he just wants to cast this Scrambleverse stuff and go full RNG.

Which I wouldn't have a problem with, since everything will be 6x more likely to hit town. So statistically, it'd be a REALLY bad move for scum, and really good for town.


Tho a really dangerous thing (potentially) was Acidic Ground, but bin only got a new frontiers off, so he can't just oneshot everything with it either. I feel like, if Aperture is scum, he'd probably be more happy to go through the deck with MA, let everyone get a million basics next turn, and then just instagib half of town. Cross and himself both not running (many) basics themself, and Cross running this global dmg scum deck of his, it would basically (no pun intended) be an awesome "we win nao" move. And AT LEAST get people into one-shot range of the mafia beast. Add in one of those copy spells...

Now now, it's possible he just didn't think about it and stuff, so I'mma not get too deep into those explanations.
Just some food for thought.


I'll have to ask Acro on what else that deck's supposed to do, though. Mb I missed something big. (Once he's lucid again, that is) It sounds way2complicated for me.

~dandel
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 03 2013 16:21 GMT
#1593
I don't understand the deck either. But my brain isn't working and the deck looks complicated. Eye of the Storm, Hive Mind and Niv-Mizzet together seem like the threat, but there doesn't actually seem to be an effective finisher.

I also don't understand why half the cards that are in there are included as they don't seem to be needed for the combo, or useful in setting it up. Also, what's the point of Braids, when all the expensive spells are enchantments or sorceries (and I guess a Hamletback Goliath, but I don't know why that's there either).

/Acro
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 03 2013 16:21 GMT
#1594
On February 04 2013 01:11 BinOnFire wrote:
Hey guys, I AM EXTREMELY SORRY for being fucking useless.

And I have no idea how I can contribute.

/Oats

Who's the 2nd scum?
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 03 2013 17:31 GMT
#1604
You know this wonderful function called private messages? Use it.
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 03 2013 19:08 GMT
#1619
I hate goblins, so i put them in grave.

Huehue.


~actually Acro, tho paraphrased by dandel
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 03 2013 19:51 GMT
#1625
On February 04 2013 04:50 Acrofales wrote:
Fine, have an update of our read on Aperture. My brain is still not really working, but luckily most of these thoughts are from yesterday.

Firstly, we're giving him the benefit of the doubt and believing that his temper tantrum was, in fact, a temper tantrum. However, he is still probable scum.

1. His cases are bad and on what we believe to be townies. While being wrong is not necessarily a scum tell, Grokmist has done absolutely nothing except for making these two cases. He doesn't share his reads.

2. He is seemingly inconsistent when it comes to magic (minds aglow, see yesterday's post) and refuses to explain. He also refuses to disclose his deck, hand or anything magic related. While not necessarily a scum tell, it is definitely not behaviour that makes him look townie.

3. Yells at people for making the thread unreadable (too large), then shits up the thread with pointless crap about non-game related stuff. Not sure this is a scumtell, but it pissed me off. Shitting up the thread serves scum's purpose and iGrok has done it twice now. However, he was completely obvious about it and I'm not sure scum have the balls for that.

Am I very sure he's scum? No. None of it's conclusive and I'm not done looking at the rest yet (primarily Nova, Rock and Suck). More tomorrow.

/Acro

My hydra heads are so awesome that they make identities of their own. This one is me!
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 03 2013 22:54 GMT
#1646
To celebrate, we will reanimate a Ghoul.

That should help.

~dandel
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 03 2013 23:19 GMT
#1649
The board card didn't suck enough for town before. So make it worse by capping it at 10 damage. Pointless stalling of board development, because everybody has to tap a minimum of 5 permanents to ensure Xfire doesn't fuck us over.

Artanis, why do you blatantly favour scum?
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