If you analyse what happened last night where two people claimed a roleblock but only the SK managed to shoot Toad, it only leaves Bugs as the roleblocked guy being scum.
I'm soon dropping an extensive post about it. For now, it's reason enough to vote for him.

##Vote Wherebugsgo

Morbidius

Brazil3449 Posts

December 25 2012 00:22 GMT

#1143

I got roleblocked.

Morbidius

Brazil3449 Posts

December 25 2012 00:25 GMT

#1144

On December 25 2012 09:19 Vivax wrote:
If you analyse what happened last night where two people claimed a roleblock but only the SK managed to shoot Toad, it only leaves Bugs as the roleblocked guy being scum.
I'm soon dropping an extensive post about it. For now, it's reason enough to vote for him.

##Vote Wherebugsgo

Who else claimed roleblock??

Eywa-

Canada4876 Posts

December 25 2012 00:26 GMT

#1145

What effect does Role Block have on nk if any?

If I had to guess, I'd say it's likely Vivax who is scum... Reason being, I can't really see the others being scum and if we look back to day 1... Vivax kind of attacked Stutters for very little reason and pushed for his early lynch while no one else thought there was any merit in his case.

sciberbia

United States1359 Posts

December 25 2012 00:29 GMT

#1146

On December 25 2012 09:25 Morbidius wrote:

Show nested quote +

Who else claimed roleblock??

I think Vivax is talking about N1 where bugs and Palmar both claimed a roleblock.

You, Morbidius, and Vivax have both claimed a roleblock N2.

I don't see how this implicates bugs as scum though, so I await Vivax's extensive post.

Vivax

22407 Posts

December 25 2012 00:29 GMT

#1147

If you don't understand what I mean with scum can't have a vig in my last post (which sounds retarded in retrospect): Last night, Palmar and Bugs have been roleblocked. SK claimed to have killed 1, but there wasn't a second kill.

I had been thinking that Palmar or Bugs could have been scum since one of them could have been the one carrying out the kill and being stopped from doing it.
I even thought Palmar might be SK cause he claimed vig along with the late roleblock claim. Actually, I wasn't alone:

On December 23 2012 07:06 iamperfection wrote:
Palmar might be sk

That's cause Palmar might have gotten scared when Bugs claimed it before him, assuming it was a town bugs. Palmar couldn't know if it was a town or a scum roleblocker hitting him N1. His roleblock + vig claiming timing was quite strange at the point. That caught iamps' and my attention.

When debears flipped, Palmar couldn't be SK anymore, the only option left was that he or Bugs could be scum.
Tonight, I have been roleblocked, Palmar claimed the shot, scum still hit, so he can't be scum. Hell, he can't be scum just for claiming the shot. And it coincides with me being jailed.
On the other hand, that leaves a question mark on bugs, who was the first guy claiming the N1 roleblock.

Vivax

22407 Posts

December 25 2012 00:35 GMT

#1148

Actually, screw this bullshit. Did I really only get shot cause of my amount of posts during Christmas time? You could have asked me for proof of everything I did. I could have posted the train ticket for the time I was travelling.

Instead, I'm almost getting killed for some shitty meta reason while Bugs does nothing but call everyone stupid, + the fact he should be a given as suspect with the happenings of N1, but apparently no one except me and iamp tried to gain information from the roleblocks?

sciberbia

United States1359 Posts

December 25 2012 00:43 GMT

#1149

@Vivax
So your theory is that
- bugs is scum and was trying to carry out a scum night kill on someone other than Toad and Palmar
- bugs got roleblocked by someone

And my question is: who roleblocked him? JK was on Palmar.

I'm not saying bugs can't be scum, because I'm suspicious of him too, but I think the most likely explanations for the missing kill N1 are:
- debears shot Toad and scum shot Palmar
- debears shot Palmar and scum shot Toad
- debears shot Toad and scum shot Toad

I'm off to christmas eve mass. Probably won't be posting much over the next two days what with Christmas and family and all.

yamato77

11589 Posts

December 25 2012 00:48 GMT

#1150

##Vote: Eywa-

Because I'm tired of reading speculation about the NK.

Morbidius

Brazil3449 Posts

December 25 2012 00:56 GMT

#1151

I'm a bit unsure on the Eywa vote now, in Witchcraft mini mafia I (and everyone else playing problably) thought he was scum, hell i could bet my life that he's scum and then... bam he flips town... Maybe he's just crazy, maybe he has a weird playstyle but for now i think we need to go for a safer lynch. Like... the guy whose only claim to town is a roleblock claim by himself.
##vote Wherebugsgo

yamato77

11589 Posts

December 25 2012 01:03 GMT

#1152

On December 25 2012 09:56 Morbidius wrote:
I'm a bit unsure on the Eywa vote now, in Witchcraft mini mafia I (and everyone else playing problably) thought he was scum, hell i could bet my life that he's scum and then... bam he flips town... Maybe he's just crazy, maybe he has a weird playstyle but for now i think we need to go for a safer lynch. Like... the guy whose only claim to town is a roleblock claim by himself.
##vote Wherebugsgo

What makes you think he's SCUM? Just because he isn't all that townie doesn't automatically make him scum.

Vivax

22407 Posts

December 25 2012 01:18 GMT

#1153

Actually, I'm a fucking idiot. Bugs can't be scum cause there can't be a town roleblocker targeting the cop and I have been jailed. Since Iamp let us know that it was his intention to jail Palmar and he thought he was SK when he claimed vig late, we can assume that Palmar has been jailed N1 and bugs roleblocked by scum, therefore he isn't scum unless there were shenanigans with scum withholding the roleblock, which I can't imagine.

That means that scum shot Palmar or Toad along with the SK N1.

##Unvote
##Vote Eywa

Eywa-

Canada4876 Posts

December 25 2012 01:24 GMT

#1154

On December 25 2012 10:18 Vivax wrote:
Actually, I'm a fucking idiot. Bugs can't be scum cause there can't be a town roleblocker targeting the cop and I have been jailed. Since Iamp let us know that it was his intention to jail Palmar and he thought he was SK when he claimed vig late, we can assume that Palmar has been jailed N1 and bugs roleblocked by scum, therefore he isn't scum unless there were shenanigans with scum withholding the roleblock, which I can't imagine.

That means that scum shot Palmar or Toad along with the SK N1.

##Unvote
##Vote Eywa

So basically you'll just vote for anyone who may get more votes than you?

Eywa-

Canada4876 Posts

December 25 2012 01:26 GMT

#1155

Wherebugsgo doesn't seem scum... This vote is a waste in my opinion.

Vivax

22407 Posts

December 25 2012 01:35 GMT

#1156

No shit Sherlock.

You only seem to go active when people start talking about you. And right now you are parroting what I concluded about Bugs.

Your last case has been a ridiculous case against Palmar, you voted for the miller for no fucking reason and then the SK, who has been lynched by 11/11 anyway.
That along with your initial roleplay that gives me the impression you tried to crumb something since you were speaking of law enforcement and stuff, I was actually speculating that you were the cop before Morbidius claimed, so I gave you slack until then.

Instead, with the blues being uncovered now, it implies that you were trying to create a crumb to rely on in case you had to false claim.

Vivax

22407 Posts

December 25 2012 01:36 GMT

#1157

Anyway, good night.

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

December 25 2012 01:54 GMT

#1158

let's just kill eywa, he's clearly not going to do shit.

##vote Eywa-

I also am really annoyed that iamp decided to offensive jail, since we could have confirmed Palmar with that shot. It also tells us nothing about Vivax's alignment since there are still 2 scum left.