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Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 12 2012 02:12 GMT
#136
Hi guys. This game should be pretty crazy and fun. GL HF.

I don't know what is going on between Foolish and Marv, but I hope it doesn't continue unless more evidence presents itself, i.e. they each talk about other stuff and not each other.

I agree with whoever already said that we want to swap a town player to the other world. Basically, the swapped player's first day in the other world will be another swap vote, so he can't get lynched his first day over there. Therefore we only want to swap townie players.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 12 2012 16:04 GMT
#181
Marv and Palmar, do you really think Foolish is scum because of his vote on marv? Idk anything about foolish except that he is on the balance team, which I assume means he must be pretty good. Even if he did this bad vote as scum previously, do you think he would do it again? Personally, I don't feel comfortable voting for him just based on that.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 12 2012 16:14 GMT
#184
On December 13 2012 01:06 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 01:04 Crossfire99 wrote:
Marv and Palmar, do you really think Foolish is scum because of his vote on marv? Idk anything about foolish except that he is on the balance team, which I assume means he must be pretty good. Even if he did this bad vote as scum previously, do you think he would do it again? Personally, I don't feel comfortable voting for him just based on that.


who'd you rather kill right now?

No one at the moment.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 12 2012 16:22 GMT
#185
On December 13 2012 01:08 Dienosore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 01:04 Crossfire99 wrote:
Marv and Palmar, do you really think Foolish is scum because of his vote on marv? Idk anything about foolish except that he is on the balance team, which I assume means he must be pretty good. Even if he did this bad vote as scum previously, do you think he would do it again? Personally, I don't feel comfortable voting for him just based on that.


How do you feel about my evidence which shows him speculating about swaps, then minutes later telling everyone not to do exactly that?

Also, why would he cast the first stone at marv for absolutely no reason?

All I can see his first vote doing is creating discussion, which it obviously did. I don't really think he would be that dumb as scum, but I don't know him, hence why i asked marv and palmar my question.

As for his flip flopping. I actually don't see it as flip flopping. I think he misunderstood the way swapping works with his first quote, and then just didn't want people to derp around talking about swapping, so he voted marv for the sake of discussion.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 12 2012 16:56 GMT
#194
On December 13 2012 01:30 Dienosore wrote:
So you're saying he isn't scum, then?

Just trying to clarify so I know what sort of squiggle to use for you two on my map.

Eh, I don't know if he is scum or isn't scum yet. I agree that his vote on marv was unwarranted, but I've seen a lot of people vote a random person day 1 just to get discussion going. And I've seen that from both town and scum players, so right now I don't have a read on him.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 13 2012 02:12 GMT
#242
On December 13 2012 08:20 marvellosity wrote:
Maybe Crossfire's scum. He seems awful careful. Randomarseface is probably too derpy to be scum

So just because I'm careful I might be scum. The reason I'm careful is because I'm really racking my brain right now trying to understand what is going on between you, foolish, and palmar. I've only played with you marv once, but I know you are all vets and are pretty good from what I hear. This is why I don't understand what is going on. It seems too bad to come from players of your caliber.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 13 2012 02:18 GMT
#244
So riddle me this marv. You call foolish's play bad in this quote + Show Spoiler +
On December 13 2012 07:48 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 07:36 Foolishness wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:40 Palmar wrote:
I'm all for this discussion thing Foolishness. Let's start with you explaining in detail why you think marv is scum.

He hasn't made a post longer than 30 words (most of them are just one liners full of nothing). He's not contributed anything of substance, all he has done is start a silly counter vote on me, backed by horrible reasoning. He says my vote is exactly the same as bureaucratic mafia, but it's not anywhere close. In bureaucracy, I just said he should die, I didn't give reasoning, and I don't even think I ever voted for him, I just made the comments in passing and never really elaborated on them. Poor comparison to try to get something going (though the amount of people jumping on it is great for the town).

What's most sketchy about his accusations against me is that they seem so out of the blue. He was really quick to jump up and point the finger back, so quick that it was made out of panic (oh shit he's onto me...quick! accuse him back to divert the attention!).


Hi there. I'd made 2 small posts at the beginning of the thread when you called me scum

Now you're a pretty clever boy and you know that's not alignment indicative. I start every game ever in the universe like this.

And no, you're stupid accusation didn't panic me. You lost your aura back in Bureaucracy when you were so trivial to catch as scum.

How could I divert the attention when there was nothing to divert it from? Oh look, marv asked why Clarity was in both worlds and said hi, he must be scum! Give me a break.

My accusation of you (shallow as it may seem) had more depth and interest than your accusation of me.

If you're genuinely town then you should know the posts I made at the beginning of the game are in no way alignment indicative, so I can only presume what you were doing was some sort of play to get people talking? Whatever it was, it was bad.
. You also say it is most likely just a ploy to get people talking. If you really are thinking that it could be just a bad ploy to get people talking, why are you voting for him? It makes no sense.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 13 2012 02:28 GMT
#246
On December 13 2012 11:15 Clarity_nl wrote:
Judging by Mario, crossfire is not scum, or at least not showing it thus far.

Oh, how nice of you. Thank you for the vote of confidence. To be completely honest though, most of what happened in Mario was due to two things. 1) That thread was way way way too active for my taste. I absolutely hated it, and would have hated it even if I was town. 2) Real life screwed me over hard during that game. I was away for the first half of day 1 and didn't think it was going to be an issue at all, but was an issue because of the activity level. Additionally, my internet really did crap out on me and make me unable to use the 3 hours I had to planned to devote to that game. I had no idea what to do after that, so i did my random stuff with 1 hr to go before the most hilarious, crazy, and random lynch I have ever been a part of.

Anyway that turned out to be way longer than I thought it would be. Whatever. lol
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 13 2012 03:23 GMT
#254
On December 13 2012 11:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
Ehhh, okay. In that case could you link us to some of the games you've played other than Mario?

If you want an easy way to get to my games, just click the profile button on the top right of any of my posts. Then click the number of posts it lists in my profile. Then select the forum to be the TL mafia forum. Then you can see all the games I have played in.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 13 2012 21:20 GMT
#356
Now, I just caught up. I will have to reread the thread to determine who I want to lynch, but I definitely want to thank austin for using that objection.

Do i really have 2 votes even though sloosh is just voting for me?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 13 2012 21:37 GMT
#367
Right now I agree with starting from austin's list here.
On December 14 2012 05:12 austinmcc wrote:
That leaves me looking at a lynch among:

randombum
marvellosity
kenpachi
clarity_nl
dienosore

At least for D1, I'm happy to throw clarity off the list. Scum starting with 2 in each world means only 3 scum total if he's scum, and if anything I would think he'd be 3P or some kind of half-one alignment, half-the other. We should not absolutely count him town, but for purposes of the D1 lynch I don't think he's a good option.

I agree with his assessment of clarity and don't want to lynch him today.

I read through dienosore's filter and don't think he's scum atm. I don't have as strong as a read on marv, but I know he plays like this and am fine with not lynching him now.

This leaves kenpachi and randombum. Kenpachi is Kenpachi from what I gather. I can't really read him right now, but I don't want to lynch him because he reminds me of chezinu. Chezinu was difficult to read but was a townie.

This leaves randombum. Give me some time and I'll see what I can put together.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 13 2012 21:50 GMT
#374
Austin, didn't you play with Dieno in Chrono? I think this is the way he plays town from my cursory following of Chrono.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 13 2012 22:12 GMT
#397
Ugh, I read through random's filter and that left me thinking he's town. He made what I consider to be a dumb statement here
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 13 2012 16:27 randombum wrote:
No idea, not nearly enough information to say somebody is scum or not. I might consider lynching austin just because I still think focusing lynches on people who started on one world first is a decent idea if there are no better alternatives.
but he read over austin's filter and said he doesn't want to lynch him because he thinks austin's town. I liked that because he did work and just didn't cop out with a policy lynch. This means he will now have to actually think and come up with some reads now, which he seems to be in the process of doing.

Now where does that leave me? Lynching kenpachi for being unreadable. I don't want to do that. Ugh...
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 13 2012 22:13 GMT
#398
On December 14 2012 07:12 marvellosity wrote:
slOosh, why are you voting for yourself?

I think he's trying to figure out the votecount shenanigans.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 13 2012 22:27 GMT
#413
Marv, if no one was off the table, who would you want to lynch?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 13 2012 22:33 GMT
#421
Marv, did you see Keir's question for you in other world?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 13 2012 22:47 GMT
#430
On December 14 2012 07:41 austinmcc wrote:
Keirathi,

objection was 1-shot.
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 07:00 GreYMisT wrote:
Most players have 2 roles. Which role is active will be dependent on which world you are in. In most cases you will not know your alternate role until you have swapped Worlds. You may only use your currently active role.


clarity's swap was a special kind that did not alter our abilities. Foolishness has his Chaos of Grey role/ability; I have my iGrok role/ability.

If I get swapped back, and swapped over here normally, then there is a chance that I have another role. That's what I mean about wanting to get swapped. Not that I can re-up on whatever objection-making role I have, which was 1-shot, but that there's a chance I have a second role.

Austin if objection was 1-shot, how will you do this?
On December 14 2012 07:33 austinmcc wrote:
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On December 14 2012 07:29 marvellosity wrote:
On December 14 2012 07:27 Crossfire99 wrote:
Marv, if no one was off the table, who would you want to lynch?


Well, you seem kinda interested so maybe you're town this game. sloosh for right now I think is town, Palmar is null.

So really it's between austin and kenpachi. I'm fine with a policy lynch at this point and I don't trust austin for his checks at all. I don't know if now it's just ME being paranoid, but his explanation that he'd have to check me by myself seems such a copout.

Pshaw. Look at the rest of my play this game. Or we can discuss my checks after this lynch/you can try to get me lynched/whatever. But you'll notice that the people who were around don't seem to be finding me scummy. At the very least, drop me for this cycle.

Besides, you know I'll check you by yourself later

Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 13 2012 23:48 GMT
#475
This is the only thing I can find that kenpachi said about dieno. He said it right after he voted for him.
On December 14 2012 06:55 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 06:44 austinmcc wrote:
On December 14 2012 06:37 slOosh wrote:
austinmcc do you prefer randombum over the other two? He has shown that he is in the least reading the thread. I'm leaning kenpachi at the moment. I'm leaning away from marv for now based on some results.

I'm fine leaning away from marv atm. That takes us to

randombum
dienosore
kenpachi

Kenpachi feels like the "nobody else looks scummy" option. At the very least, I don't want us voting him now and leaving votes there when we've somewhat wasted today. So I'm most interested in randombum and dienosore.

Random HAS been reading thread, or was yesterday, but...in terms of what has happened during half this cycle, he's been MIA. He was commenting yesterday, on the swaps, on marv/foolishness/palmar, but then poof. Way less commentary when things started picking up with clarity's swaps and my objection. The change in reading/activity can be explained by any number of things, but ... I'm no longer sure that I want to stick him way on the side of "reading thread" after participation today. If that makes any sense. His reaction to clarity's swap, that clarity "screwed things up" is WEIRD. randombum was voting, and is voting, PALMAR. clarity didn't mess with randombum's vote, so I don't know what clarity could have screwed up. That phrase is...odd. Real odd.

slOosh, thoughts on that post in particular?


dienosore I'm waiting on, but he seems to be sheeping a thought process from some guy he's never explained his read on, and in doing so is voting a guy he says he is voting now as a way of "taking potshots at the scummiest looking lurkers." He's not explained yet WHY kenpachi is "the scummiest looking," unless less people talking about someone = scumminess in dienosore's mind. That troubles me.


I would prefer lynching into one of these two today over kenpachi I think? Right now the more I look at them, the more I keep disliking little things.


personally, i was waiting for him to come up with a bs case on me but it never came lol

On December 14 2012 06:55 Kenpachi wrote:
^talking about dieno

Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 13 2012 23:53 GMT
#483
I don't want to be on kenpachi honestly. He reminds me of chezinu and I needed a little bit of time to figure him out. I'm not sure about dieno, but when I read through his filter a little while ago, nothing jumped out at my as scummy. He is more of a null read for me. So I don't know what to do. Ugh. I don't want to vote for kenpachi, but what else is there to do.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 18:36 GMT
#910
First, Risen and I are confirmed town masons. I specifically asked about this and it is true. My breadcrumb is spoilered below.
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 13 2012 01:04 Crossfire99 wrote:
Marv and Palmar, do you really think Foolish is scum because of his vote on marv? Idk anything about foolish except that he is on the balance team, which I assume means he must be pretty good. Even if he did this bad vote as scum previously, do you think he would do it again? Personally, I don't feel comfortable voting for him just based on that.

On December 13 2012 01:14 Crossfire99 wrote:
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On December 13 2012 01:06 marvellosity wrote:
On December 13 2012 01:04 Crossfire99 wrote:
Marv and Palmar, do you really think Foolish is scum because of his vote on marv? Idk anything about foolish except that he is on the balance team, which I assume means he must be pretty good. Even if he did this bad vote as scum previously, do you think he would do it again? Personally, I don't feel comfortable voting for him just based on that.


who'd you rather kill right now?

No one at the moment.

On December 13 2012 01:22 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 01:08 Dienosore wrote:
On December 13 2012 01:04 Crossfire99 wrote:
Marv and Palmar, do you really think Foolish is scum because of his vote on marv? Idk anything about foolish except that he is on the balance team, which I assume means he must be pretty good. Even if he did this bad vote as scum previously, do you think he would do it again? Personally, I don't feel comfortable voting for him just based on that.


How do you feel about my evidence which shows him speculating about swaps, then minutes later telling everyone not to do exactly that?

Also, why would he cast the first stone at marv for absolutely no reason?

All I can see his first vote doing is creating discussion, which it obviously did. I don't really think he would be that dumb as scum, but I don't know him, hence why i asked marv and palmar my question.

As for his flip flopping. I actually don't see it as flip flopping. I think he misunderstood the way swapping works with his first quote, and then just didn't want people to derp around talking about swapping, so he voted marv for the sake of discussion.

On December 13 2012 01:56 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 01:30 Dienosore wrote:
So you're saying he isn't scum, then?

Just trying to clarify so I know what sort of squiggle to use for you two on my map.

Eh, I don't know if he is scum or isn't scum yet. I agree that his vote on marv was unwarranted, but I've seen a lot of people vote a random person day 1 just to get discussion going. And I've seen that from both town and scum players, so right now I don't have a read on him.

On December 13 2012 11:12 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 08:20 marvellosity wrote:
Maybe Crossfire's scum. He seems awful careful. Randomarseface is probably too derpy to be scum

So just because I'm careful I might be scum. The reason I'm careful is because I'm really racking my brain right now trying to understand what is going on between you, foolish, and palmar. I've only played with you marv once, but I know you are all vets and are pretty good from what I hear. This is why I don't understand what is going on. It seems too bad to come from players of your caliber.

On December 13 2012 11:18 Crossfire99 wrote:
So riddle me this marv. You call foolish's play bad in this quote + Show Spoiler +
On December 13 2012 07:48 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 07:36 Foolishness wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:40 Palmar wrote:
I'm all for this discussion thing Foolishness. Let's start with you explaining in detail why you think marv is scum.

He hasn't made a post longer than 30 words (most of them are just one liners full of nothing). He's not contributed anything of substance, all he has done is start a silly counter vote on me, backed by horrible reasoning. He says my vote is exactly the same as bureaucratic mafia, but it's not anywhere close. In bureaucracy, I just said he should die, I didn't give reasoning, and I don't even think I ever voted for him, I just made the comments in passing and never really elaborated on them. Poor comparison to try to get something going (though the amount of people jumping on it is great for the town).

What's most sketchy about his accusations against me is that they seem so out of the blue. He was really quick to jump up and point the finger back, so quick that it was made out of panic (oh shit he's onto me...quick! accuse him back to divert the attention!).


Hi there. I'd made 2 small posts at the beginning of the thread when you called me scum

Now you're a pretty clever boy and you know that's not alignment indicative. I start every game ever in the universe like this.

And no, you're stupid accusation didn't panic me. You lost your aura back in Bureaucracy when you were so trivial to catch as scum.

How could I divert the attention when there was nothing to divert it from? Oh look, marv asked why Clarity was in both worlds and said hi, he must be scum! Give me a break.

My accusation of you (shallow as it may seem) had more depth and interest than your accusation of me.

If you're genuinely town then you should know the posts I made at the beginning of the game are in no way alignment indicative, so I can only presume what you were doing was some sort of play to get people talking? Whatever it was, it was bad.
. You also say it is most likely just a ploy to get people talking. If you really are thinking that it could be just a bad ploy to get people talking, why are you voting for him? It makes no sense.

On December 13 2012 11:28 Crossfire99 wrote:
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On December 13 2012 11:15 Clarity_nl wrote:
Judging by Mario, crossfire is not scum, or at least not showing it thus far.

Oh, how nice of you. Thank you for the vote of confidence. To be completely honest though, most of what happened in Mario was due to two things. 1) That thread was way way way too active for my taste. I absolutely hated it, and would have hated it even if I was town. 2) Real life screwed me over hard during that game. I was away for the first half of day 1 and didn't think it was going to be an issue at all, but was an issue because of the activity level. Additionally, my internet really did crap out on me and make me unable to use the 3 hours I had to planned to devote to that game. I had no idea what to do after that, so i did my random stuff with 1 hr to go before the most hilarious, crazy, and random lynch I have ever been a part of.

Anyway that turned out to be way longer than I thought it would be. Whatever. lol

On December 13 2012 12:23 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 11:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
Ehhh, okay. In that case could you link us to some of the games you've played other than Mario?

If you want an easy way to get to my games, just click the profile button on the top right of any of my posts. Then click the number of posts it lists in my profile. Then select the forum to be the TL mafia forum. Then you can see all the games I have played in.

On December 14 2012 06:20 Crossfire99 wrote:
Now, I just caught up. I will have to reread the thread to determine who I want to lynch, but I definitely want to thank austin for using that objection.

Do i really have 2 votes even though sloosh is just voting for me?

On December 14 2012 06:37 Crossfire99 wrote:
Right now I agree with starting from austin's list here.
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 05:12 austinmcc wrote:
That leaves me looking at a lynch among:

randombum
marvellosity
kenpachi
clarity_nl
dienosore

At least for D1, I'm happy to throw clarity off the list. Scum starting with 2 in each world means only 3 scum total if he's scum, and if anything I would think he'd be 3P or some kind of half-one alignment, half-the other. We should not absolutely count him town, but for purposes of the D1 lynch I don't think he's a good option.

I agree with his assessment of clarity and don't want to lynch him today.

I read through dienosore's filter and don't think he's scum atm. I don't have as strong as a read on marv, but I know he plays like this and am fine with not lynching him now.

This leaves kenpachi and randombum. Kenpachi is Kenpachi from what I gather. I can't really read him right now, but I don't want to lynch him because he reminds me of chezinu. Chezinu was difficult to read but was a townie.

This leaves randombum. Give me some time and I'll see what I can put together.


If you take the first letters of my 2nd-11th posts. It will give you this:

M N A E S S O I N R

If you take every other letter starting from the left you get MASON and if you take every other letter starting from the right you get RISEN.

If it hasn't been apparent, Mementoss has been hardcore claiming scum and should be lynched tomorrow. In addition Foolishness needs to die today.

##Vote (GreY): Foolishness
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 19:15 GMT
#913
Also, everyone should be voting to swap Risen in iGrok's world. This will swap me and Risen again, so that we can maintain some townies in iGrok's world for the lynch in there tomorrow.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 19:17 GMT
#914
Sloosh, you should use it on Darkfire. He claimed 3rd party, plus we have no idea what his ability did. Since no one claimed to have given it to you, I agree it is probably from scum. To be safe use it on a claimed 3rd party with a weird ability activated.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 19:21 GMT
#917
Sloosh, do you think it could be in any way dangerous to yourself?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 19:27 GMT
#921
On December 19 2012 04:23 slOosh wrote:
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On December 19 2012 04:21 Crossfire99 wrote:
Sloosh, do you think it could be in any way dangerous to yourself?

It says it is a volatile device.

So random thoughts. This is pure speculation. Device could explode killing you if used across worlds. It could change abilities if used across worlds becoming more dangerous to target exists in other world. It could change abilities depending on the alignment of the target. After thinking about it, I think the first 2 options I listed could be likely, but I really have no idea. What do you think?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
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December 18 2012 19:32 GMT
#922
Sloosh, basically I think you should use it on scum or 3rd party in case it causes harm. I wouldn't use it on marv because he is at least helping more than darkfire.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 19:38 GMT
#925
On December 19 2012 04:36 syllogism wrote:
Using it on mafia is a terrible idea. An item that likely originated from mafia is very unlikely to do anything useful when used on mafia; in fact, it could lead to the worst outcome. Why would mafia give you an item that can be used to kill/rb/whatever mafia? Even assuming that it can be used to in some way harm mafia, wouldn't it make more sense to give the item to someone who is more likely to use it on a town aligned person (say, darkfire if he is somehow town)? I guess it's possible that the source of the item is a third party.

So you think it should be used on 3rd party then?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 19:40 GMT
#927
On December 19 2012 04:38 syllogism wrote:
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On December 19 2012 04:38 Crossfire99 wrote:
On December 19 2012 04:36 syllogism wrote:
Using it on mafia is a terrible idea. An item that likely originated from mafia is very unlikely to do anything useful when used on mafia; in fact, it could lead to the worst outcome. Why would mafia give you an item that can be used to kill/rb/whatever mafia? Even assuming that it can be used to in some way harm mafia, wouldn't it make more sense to give the item to someone who is more likely to use it on a town aligned person (say, darkfire if he is somehow town)? I guess it's possible that the source of the item is a third party.

So you think it should be used on 3rd party then?

If he has to target someone, yes

Ok I agree that 3rd party is best. He said he has to use it, so sloosh, my advice is to choose 3rd party.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 19:59 GMT
#930
On December 19 2012 04:52 Foolishness wrote:
Until I see a case made against me longer than 3 lines I'm ignoring anything anyone says about me

So if you're not scum, who is the scum from our world (Chaos of Grey)? I've only colored the confirmed people green.

Clarity_nl
Crossfire99 (Confirmed not anti-town. Masoned with Risen)
Dienosore (dead)
Foolishness
Keirathi
Kenpachi (dead)
Marvellosity
Palmar (dead)
randombum
SlOosh (confirmed not anti-town)
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 20:04 GMT
#932
On December 19 2012 05:02 Foolishness wrote:
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On December 19 2012 04:59 Crossfire99 wrote:
On December 19 2012 04:52 Foolishness wrote:
Until I see a case made against me longer than 3 lines I'm ignoring anything anyone says about me

So if you're not scum, who is the scum from our world (Chaos of Grey)? I've only colored the confirmed people green.

Clarity_nl
Crossfire99 (Confirmed not anti-town. Masoned with Risen)
Dienosore (dead)
Foolishness
Keirathi
Kenpachi (dead)
Marvellosity
Palmar (dead)
randombum
SlOosh (confirmed not anti-town)

Unless they're dead they are not confirmed. If we're believing marvellosity's claim that he's 3rd party I honestly don't know who the last one out of the bunch is. I don't think it's you, I don't think it's syllogism because he exists in both worlds (which would mean there's only 3 mafia, and that's not likely), so sloosh or keirathi; pick the one you hate the most.

Why don't you believe Austin's check? He died and is confirmed town?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 23:23 GMT
#949
On December 19 2012 07:39 Foolishness wrote:
I hope there's 24 hours left in the day otherwise I'm going to be the laughing stock of this forum forever

What is going to happen now?

@BH: I think you should swap risen, so I come over to iGrok's Strange Land.

@Yamato: Risen is 100% confirmed town. He may have lied, but he is 100% confirmed town. I already explained this earlier in the below post.
On December 19 2012 03:36 Crossfire99 wrote:
First, Risen and I are confirmed town masons. I specifically asked about this and it is true. My breadcrumb is spoilered below.
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 13 2012 01:04 Crossfire99 wrote:
Marv and Palmar, do you really think Foolish is scum because of his vote on marv? Idk anything about foolish except that he is on the balance team, which I assume means he must be pretty good. Even if he did this bad vote as scum previously, do you think he would do it again? Personally, I don't feel comfortable voting for him just based on that.

On December 13 2012 01:14 Crossfire99 wrote:
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On December 13 2012 01:06 marvellosity wrote:
On December 13 2012 01:04 Crossfire99 wrote:
Marv and Palmar, do you really think Foolish is scum because of his vote on marv? Idk anything about foolish except that he is on the balance team, which I assume means he must be pretty good. Even if he did this bad vote as scum previously, do you think he would do it again? Personally, I don't feel comfortable voting for him just based on that.


who'd you rather kill right now?

No one at the moment.

On December 13 2012 01:22 Crossfire99 wrote:
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On December 13 2012 01:08 Dienosore wrote:
On December 13 2012 01:04 Crossfire99 wrote:
Marv and Palmar, do you really think Foolish is scum because of his vote on marv? Idk anything about foolish except that he is on the balance team, which I assume means he must be pretty good. Even if he did this bad vote as scum previously, do you think he would do it again? Personally, I don't feel comfortable voting for him just based on that.


How do you feel about my evidence which shows him speculating about swaps, then minutes later telling everyone not to do exactly that?

Also, why would he cast the first stone at marv for absolutely no reason?

All I can see his first vote doing is creating discussion, which it obviously did. I don't really think he would be that dumb as scum, but I don't know him, hence why i asked marv and palmar my question.

As for his flip flopping. I actually don't see it as flip flopping. I think he misunderstood the way swapping works with his first quote, and then just didn't want people to derp around talking about swapping, so he voted marv for the sake of discussion.

On December 13 2012 01:56 Crossfire99 wrote:
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On December 13 2012 01:30 Dienosore wrote:
So you're saying he isn't scum, then?

Just trying to clarify so I know what sort of squiggle to use for you two on my map.

Eh, I don't know if he is scum or isn't scum yet. I agree that his vote on marv was unwarranted, but I've seen a lot of people vote a random person day 1 just to get discussion going. And I've seen that from both town and scum players, so right now I don't have a read on him.

On December 13 2012 11:12 Crossfire99 wrote:
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On December 13 2012 08:20 marvellosity wrote:
Maybe Crossfire's scum. He seems awful careful. Randomarseface is probably too derpy to be scum

So just because I'm careful I might be scum. The reason I'm careful is because I'm really racking my brain right now trying to understand what is going on between you, foolish, and palmar. I've only played with you marv once, but I know you are all vets and are pretty good from what I hear. This is why I don't understand what is going on. It seems too bad to come from players of your caliber.

On December 13 2012 11:18 Crossfire99 wrote:
So riddle me this marv. You call foolish's play bad in this quote + Show Spoiler +
On December 13 2012 07:48 marvellosity wrote:
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On December 13 2012 07:36 Foolishness wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:40 Palmar wrote:
I'm all for this discussion thing Foolishness. Let's start with you explaining in detail why you think marv is scum.

He hasn't made a post longer than 30 words (most of them are just one liners full of nothing). He's not contributed anything of substance, all he has done is start a silly counter vote on me, backed by horrible reasoning. He says my vote is exactly the same as bureaucratic mafia, but it's not anywhere close. In bureaucracy, I just said he should die, I didn't give reasoning, and I don't even think I ever voted for him, I just made the comments in passing and never really elaborated on them. Poor comparison to try to get something going (though the amount of people jumping on it is great for the town).

What's most sketchy about his accusations against me is that they seem so out of the blue. He was really quick to jump up and point the finger back, so quick that it was made out of panic (oh shit he's onto me...quick! accuse him back to divert the attention!).


Hi there. I'd made 2 small posts at the beginning of the thread when you called me scum

Now you're a pretty clever boy and you know that's not alignment indicative. I start every game ever in the universe like this.

And no, you're stupid accusation didn't panic me. You lost your aura back in Bureaucracy when you were so trivial to catch as scum.

How could I divert the attention when there was nothing to divert it from? Oh look, marv asked why Clarity was in both worlds and said hi, he must be scum! Give me a break.

My accusation of you (shallow as it may seem) had more depth and interest than your accusation of me.

If you're genuinely town then you should know the posts I made at the beginning of the game are in no way alignment indicative, so I can only presume what you were doing was some sort of play to get people talking? Whatever it was, it was bad.
. You also say it is most likely just a ploy to get people talking. If you really are thinking that it could be just a bad ploy to get people talking, why are you voting for him? It makes no sense.

On December 13 2012 11:28 Crossfire99 wrote:
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On December 13 2012 11:15 Clarity_nl wrote:
Judging by Mario, crossfire is not scum, or at least not showing it thus far.

Oh, how nice of you. Thank you for the vote of confidence. To be completely honest though, most of what happened in Mario was due to two things. 1) That thread was way way way too active for my taste. I absolutely hated it, and would have hated it even if I was town. 2) Real life screwed me over hard during that game. I was away for the first half of day 1 and didn't think it was going to be an issue at all, but was an issue because of the activity level. Additionally, my internet really did crap out on me and make me unable to use the 3 hours I had to planned to devote to that game. I had no idea what to do after that, so i did my random stuff with 1 hr to go before the most hilarious, crazy, and random lynch I have ever been a part of.

Anyway that turned out to be way longer than I thought it would be. Whatever. lol

On December 13 2012 12:23 Crossfire99 wrote:
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On December 13 2012 11:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
Ehhh, okay. In that case could you link us to some of the games you've played other than Mario?

If you want an easy way to get to my games, just click the profile button on the top right of any of my posts. Then click the number of posts it lists in my profile. Then select the forum to be the TL mafia forum. Then you can see all the games I have played in.

On December 14 2012 06:20 Crossfire99 wrote:
Now, I just caught up. I will have to reread the thread to determine who I want to lynch, but I definitely want to thank austin for using that objection.

Do i really have 2 votes even though sloosh is just voting for me?

On December 14 2012 06:37 Crossfire99 wrote:
Right now I agree with starting from austin's list here.
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On December 14 2012 05:12 austinmcc wrote:
That leaves me looking at a lynch among:

randombum
marvellosity
kenpachi
clarity_nl
dienosore

At least for D1, I'm happy to throw clarity off the list. Scum starting with 2 in each world means only 3 scum total if he's scum, and if anything I would think he'd be 3P or some kind of half-one alignment, half-the other. We should not absolutely count him town, but for purposes of the D1 lynch I don't think he's a good option.

I agree with his assessment of clarity and don't want to lynch him today.

I read through dienosore's filter and don't think he's scum atm. I don't have as strong as a read on marv, but I know he plays like this and am fine with not lynching him now.

This leaves kenpachi and randombum. Kenpachi is Kenpachi from what I gather. I can't really read him right now, but I don't want to lynch him because he reminds me of chezinu. Chezinu was difficult to read but was a townie.

This leaves randombum. Give me some time and I'll see what I can put together.


If you take the first letters of my 2nd-11th posts. It will give you this:

M N A E S S O I N R

If you take every other letter starting from the left you get MASON and if you take every other letter starting from the right you get RISEN.

Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 23:25 GMT
#950
Randombum, what's with the ninja vote on foolish?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 23:29 GMT
#953
What if everyone voted to swap you syllogism? You don't get swapped. It would move to the 2nd highest vote count, but if that was no one, then no one would get swapped.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 23:32 GMT
#957
Hmm. We could just do darkfire since he's claimed 3rd party. Also, his crazy ability is hitting tonight.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 19 2012 03:43 GMT
#960
On December 19 2012 11:52 Foolishness wrote:
Sorry, I had to run and had to make sure it got posted on time.

My ability kills everyone who has been swapped between worlds in the past cycle (it also kills myself whether or not I have or not). It's only usable during the day and activates at lynch time. So Risen and Crossfire will die at the lynch with me. After I flip town reread everything I've said this game.

And I have no idea why syllogism is agreeing to work with a 3rd party we know nothing about. He's clearly playing anti-town (and has been from day 1). What reason is there to trust him with no other proof then what he claims?

Yeah, I don't know how else you could scream scum more loudly than you just did. Activating a supposed ability that kills people who were swapped during the day is interesting if it really exists, but activating it to use on confirmed town masons that were swapped is over 9000 scummy.

Don't believe the B.S. Lynch Foolishness no matter what.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 21 2012 20:29 GMT
#1009
I agree with Risen. I don't want to be swapped. I'd actually be up for swapping Hassy to become Kaiba.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 21 2012 21:29 GMT
#1011
On December 22 2012 05:56 Hassybaby wrote:
The major downside of swapping me is that I have literally no idea what cards I'll get. Gonna pray for some heart of the cards to guide me

Kinda like what is happening right now. Lol
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 23 2012 23:59 GMT
#1039
Shhhhh. No Talking.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 24 2012 00:01 GMT
#1041
On December 24 2012 09:00 Keirathi wrote:
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On December 24 2012 08:59 Crossfire99 wrote:
Shhhhh. No Talking.

What? It doesn't say anything about not talking during the resolution period.

Wasn't it like that Chrono Trigger? I assumed it followed that model.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 24 2012 00:18 GMT
#1046
Uh, well this is awkward.

##Vote (GreY): No lynch
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 24 2012 00:21 GMT
#1047
On December 24 2012 09:15 yamato77 wrote:
Lol Keir confirmed scum.

How does that confirm him?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 24 2012 00:36 GMT
#1048
So marv, what do you think happened? Do you think Keir is telling the truth about is role? Maybe he misread it and is still alive?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 24 2012 00:42 GMT
#1051
On December 24 2012 09:37 yamato77 wrote:
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On December 24 2012 09:21 Crossfire99 wrote:
On December 24 2012 09:15 yamato77 wrote:
Lol Keir confirmed scum.

How does that confirm him?

Swaps out of lynch and lied about his ability.

Confirmed scum.

You're telling me that a confirmed scum with 2 other people in lynch world (me and you) doesn't kill one of us to leave it at 1-1 so there is a no lynch. He then pretty much just wins. The other thread will be forced to send someone over. Keir kills another person and it doesn't really matter who, cause by this point town lost.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 24 2012 00:43 GMT
#1052
@Keir

I think you said you would die last night or you made it seem like you would.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 24 2012 00:52 GMT
#1055
@Keir: I figured it was something like that.
Crossfire99
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United States1529 Posts
December 24 2012 01:17 GMT
#1057
On December 24 2012 10:15 GreYMisT wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Paladin of the White Dragon was summoned!

Go Hassy! Believe in the heart of the cards!
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 24 2012 01:24 GMT
#1059
Hassy, you should have made this epic by doing something like this

[image loading]
Crossfire99
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United States1529 Posts
December 24 2012 01:32 GMT
#1060
@Hassy: I have no idea what your last post meant. lol
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 24 2012 19:32 GMT
#1061
I think you guys should swap sloosh over. I think you, Hassy, will be useful tomorrow during the lynch with your ability to be a double voter. It will prevent scum from controlling the lynch too much.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 25 2012 02:37 GMT
#1064
@Marv and Keir: Did either of you take KP last night?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 25 2012 03:27 GMT
#1065
So random, since you're here, who is the last scum? You can choose between me, sloosh, keir, marv, and yourself.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 26 2012 19:56 GMT
#1071
Hmmm. I can't believe I'm saying this, but Risen has a point. You should probably switch him and I. That means tomorrow yamato can be swapped back over to iGrok's strange land to keep the voting power there. We just continue only swapping Risen and I while in iGrok's land, and swapping everyone but Risen and I in GreY's world. This will prevent scum from gaining too much control over the lynches in iGrok's land.

Basically, I want to try to consolidate people in iGrok's land to make sure the lynch goes well tomorrow.

Crap. Wait. What if the last scum has a power like foolish? Then we don't want to do this. Then we want to swap someone confirmed. Ugh. What do all you guys over there think?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 28 2012 01:49 GMT
#1081
@Keirathi: This whole situation reminds me of when we were in WLIIA. If you trust me, vote for yourself. You can prevent a situation like WLIIA from happening again if you do this. You are just going to have to trust me on this one.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 28 2012 02:14 GMT
#1082
@Sloosh: If you also trust me to be town, vote for yourself as well. You are also just going to have to trust me on this one.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 28 2012 23:16 GMT
#1094
Hassy, vote yamato. You said you have a good chance at good abilities tonight and I want you to get them in case scum isn't lynched.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 29 2012 00:24 GMT
#1098
I'm here. What do you want sloosh?
Crossfire99
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United States1529 Posts
December 29 2012 00:31 GMT
#1099
What is your win condition and did you achieve it?
Crossfire99
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United States1529 Posts
December 29 2012 00:39 GMT
#1100
Hassy, what are your thoughts on everything that has happened?
Crossfire99
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United States1529 Posts
December 29 2012 01:57 GMT
#1101
Sloosh, what does non-maiar mean? Do you have to survive to win?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 29 2012 02:44 GMT
#1103
Hassy, I think it should be pretty obvious, but I have been reborn as Lord Kanti.

Sloosh, do you have any other abilities? What do they do? Why'd you kill Risen? If you switch back over to Grey, won't you become your other role, which was town, meaning that you won't win?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 29 2012 02:52 GMT
#1104
Keirathi: I've become 3rd party. I'm assuming you are claiming scum with that post?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 29 2012 03:09 GMT
#1105
Keirathi: You shouldn't give up no matter what. This game is crazy enough as it is, and I honestly have no idea what is going to happen tonight. Town might get lucky or something, you never know.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 29 2012 03:43 GMT
#1106
Sloosh, I became a survivor. It doesn't matter who wins as long as I'm alive. What was the deal with those random games you were making us play and the random items you got?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 29 2012 04:19 GMT
#1107
I assume you're talking to me, sloosh. I'm a survivor. I don't get what's so hard about that. I'm not anti-town and I'm not anti-scum. I just need to be alive at the end of the game to win. Hence the term survivor.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 29 2012 22:17 GMT
#1108
Hassy, I lied. I'm town. Just figured you probably need to know that.
Crossfire99
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United States1529 Posts
December 29 2012 22:29 GMT
#1109
I feel like I'm talking to myself in this world...
Crossfire99
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December 29 2012 22:31 GMT
#1110
Crossfire99
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December 29 2012 23:01 GMT
#1112
You're an hour early, Risen. It is the beginning of the resolution period now.
Crossfire99
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United States1529 Posts
December 29 2012 23:11 GMT
#1114
On December 30 2012 08:04 Risen wrote:
Meaning no more actions can be submitted :D

I know, I know. I'm just busting your chops.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 29 2012 23:13 GMT
#1115
Below is the Last Will and Testament of Lord Kanti of the Black Flames


When you read this I may or may not be dead. If I am not dead now, I shall be shortly. It matters not, though, because what I have to say transcends death itself.

When I was reborn not too long, I surveyed this fragmented reality and was horrified at the carnage. You may be wondering how I can be horrified at carnage for I am Lord Kanti of the Black Flames, but what you do not know is that unless the dead flesh is charred to ashes or belongs to evil beings, I am deeply grieved. Such was the case when I arose earlier this day. Too much unnecessary death (that wasn't incinerated because then I would just love it even if they belonged to innocents) caused by a paranoid town destroying itself.

I was also most disappointed in my two monks. They tried to serve me well in my absence, but I see no good death as the result of their actions. The only death I see is poor misunderstood randombum, and he wasn't even burned to death! I must thank them, though, for bringing me back to life, and for that I am thankful. I will deal with their failings later because I have more pressing matters to attend to.

No matter what anyone does, I shall be dead soon. Nothing can prevent this, but fear not for death cannot hold Lord Kanti for long! I shall rise again, this time empowered and emboldened with the spirit of Kitaman27 to guide my firestarting hand to lay waste to all who stand for evil and threaten any peaceful world.

I am sorry that I could not arise sooner to prevent what has passed (and cause much more burnination), but I can make a difference now, so that is what I have done. I have only one last thing to say and that is to someone I respect greatly. He taught me a lot and has done much, so I have left something special for him below.

+ Show Spoiler [go big or go home] +
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 30 2012 00:17 GMT
#1117
GG. Keirathi, I knew you were town. Unless Hassy did something tonight, sloosh would have died from me the next night, cause I poisoned him.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 30 2012 18:17 GMT
#1148
Thanks for hosting GreY, iGrok, and Mr. Wiggles! I had a blast. It was a lot of fun.

On December 30 2012 10:01 GreYMisT wrote:
I would like Input from anyone who has watched full-metal alchemist on what you thought of Edward Elric. I had his vet stack be like his arm and it would regenerate in 2 days because it would be repaired. He could give It up like he did for his brother. I just want to know how we'll it fits with the theme and how It can be improved

Please tell me that this means you are going to do a FMA Mafia game because I'd like to /in right now lol. Though, it better follow the story of the manga/Brotherhood anime and not the first FMA anime because the manga storyline was better.

As for the Edward's ability...hmmm...I don't like how Edward's a vet because in reality Alphonse was way more vetlike than Edward. I mean Alphonse received more traditionally life threatening "injuries" but survived cause he doesn't have a body. I think you should make Alphonse a regenerating vet but his vet status only regenerates while Edward is alive (cause Edward would always fix him whenever he was damaged). I think if you then had an option for both players relating to Ed's arm and Al's body that would be cool. For example maybe Alphonse could sacrifice himself to give Ed new abilities or his sacrifice would save Ed from any death (like at the end of Brotherhood). As for Ed, maybe you could have him at anytime sacrifice his arm, i.e. become a VT, to resurrect Al, but Al is no longer a regenerating vet because Ed's arm is gone. Hmmm...idk if I like that. Wait, how about at anytime Ed can sacrifice his abilities (become a VT), to resurrect Al's real body (he doesn't have his vet status but has abilities relating to alchemy). To balance this I think you should make either Alphonse use transmutation circles like Keirathi did this game or do something like you already did with your fake claim for mementoss. The funniest thing was that when Keirathi claimed Edward Elric, my first gut reaction was BS; Edward Elric doesn't use transmutation circles. That is completely wrong. I then thought about it some more and decided that for the purposes of this game you made him use them lol. If you do a FMA game, though, Ed better not use transmutation circles. lol
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 30 2012 20:54 GMT
#1151
A few questions for you GreY. Did most people have to target someone in their own world? I knew Risen and I didn't care, so I have no idea about the other roles. Also, according to the document, ATLAS and P-Body could only use their swap once per game. I'm assuming you changed that?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 30 2012 20:55 GMT
#1152
On December 31 2012 05:53 Hassybaby wrote:
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On December 30 2012 16:54 GreYMisT wrote:
Hassy wins the best invention award


Best invention: steal role already in the game

I'M APPLE GUYS

I'm confused by your role. You made up Lucy completely on your own, right? How'd you get the Kaiba role then? I didn't see anything in the role that mentioned stealing someone else's role.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 30 2012 21:08 GMT
#1154
On December 31 2012 06:03 Keirathi wrote:
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On December 31 2012 05:55 Crossfire99 wrote:
On December 31 2012 05:53 Hassybaby wrote:
On December 30 2012 16:54 GreYMisT wrote:
Hassy wins the best invention award


Best invention: steal role already in the game

I'M APPLE GUYS

I'm confused by your role. You made up Lucy completely on your own, right? How'd you get the Kaiba role then? I didn't see anything in the role that mentioned stealing someone else's role.

It was one of his spirits, right? Let him make a copy of someone else.

I didn't see it in the list of his spirits.
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